I got stuck on your second sentence..."people taking responsibility for their own lives". It's actually laughable that would be your solution! Many abortions are performed on CHILDREN. Would you suggest they take responsibility? How would you go about having such influence on these children to keep them from acting on their base desires? How might one get millions of people to suddenly dump all programming and begin taking responsibility when they can't even drive a car properly; can't get off drugs; can't keep a job, relationships, etc? The only person I can change is me. Influencing people to change through example is ALL ONE CAN DO. So your simple solution is a farce. (Hugs)

I don't see why having that discussion with pro-lifers would be a problem except possibly where funding is involved. I'm also not sure that all tubal ligations are reversible, so there's that. The problem as I see it, is a political one,that there is little interest in solving.Follow the money honey! I have to say that it is absolutely appalling that the pro-choice fraction is no longer satisfied with Roe vs Wade and the 20 week limit and keep moving the bar further and further. Unfortunately, young women are taught to believe that having an abortion is no worse then removing a polyp and have thus far been able (quite easily )to buy into that, when talking about no more than 20 weeks. I don't see how that self deception can continue when we are talking about abortions at the time of delivery. I'm sure you can tell by my last statement that I am indeed pro-life. That said, I have to admit that I have come full circle over the years.When I was younger I bought into the aforementioned polyp idea and was really too young and naive to give it serious thought.Therein lies the rub, because it is young,naive women making this choice. I know this isn't the conversation you were trying to have but I will say, as a pro-lifer, I would certainly be open to the one you proposed.Anything to stop the currant madness!

I think the problem is even when both are responsible and practice safe sex accidents can still happen even tho they are rare. The fault is that because of that rare occasion some people will use it to justify legal abortion for "just because I'm not ready" abortions to absolve the woman but at the same time hold men accountable across the board by threat of jail time if they aren't at the least a source of income for the child. People have the nerve to attack "dear beat dad's" then turn around and support abortion and not see the woman as a dead beat for dodging her responsibility with killing the child.

The issue isn't about finding solutions or working together to reach a compromise from my perspective. It's about "winning" the fight at all cost. It serves to divide and keep people arguing over it for years so politicians can avoid other topics that donors don't want changed. That's why even tho abortion is 100% legal we still have people fighting for abortion to be legal. Until there is a change the topic should be on the back burner while we work at other issues but fear tactics from politicians are used to control people and they work beautifully.