Interesting i had a conversation with a guy on fp where i had thought that the roamans had executed christ and used christianity for their own personal gain but i was wrong. the jews let christ be executed so i can some what understand his views but he sounds suspiciously sounds like a anti semitic and not so much a christian and as for backing israel im all for it these people may be our only true allies in the world

I am a Christian, and I totally support your opinion re: Israel, and the Jews. I do not agree with your or their position on religion, but that can be saved for a different discussion.

Thanks for this post, it was a good read

Excellent post. That silly twit, AOC, should read your post and get educated so she doesn’t look like such a fool when she speaks on this subject. Oh, wait, I love it when she looks like a fool.

“ the Palestinians” were just Arabs living under the the Ottoman Empire when the Zionist showed up at the turn of the century. They didn’t have leaders partly because the Ottoman Empire fell after ww1 and they were indentured servants to land they didn’t own.
The Zionist, were Jewish immigrants from mostly Eastern Europe, Russia, Poland... who wanted to reclaim their homeland, which was lost after Rome sacked Jerusalem.
One of those immigrants was Ben Gurion, a socialist revolutionary from the Russian revolt, and maybe one of the more level headed, although he did have his priorities. Another was Menachen Begin, the leader of the Zionist militant group the Irgan.
I might be the only one that would love a history lesson here but this probably isn’t the place. There were horrible atrocities on both sides. Not only did the zionists have help from the British government, they also had a large hand themselves. Most of the terrorist tactics used today were first used by the zionists.
Isreal now, is better than the Zionist movement then and the Palestinians, are worse now than the Palestinians then. Both sets of hands are completely dirty on both sides though.
I’m a little reluctant posting this, I’d hate to be shunned from a community I enjoy. Just thought I’d share a little history none of us hear. The MartyrMade podcast does a great job explaining the conflict if anyone wants more info about how things came to be in Israel

Yep, I'm agnostic and an Israel supporter. You're 100% on all you say. A few points to add:

The modern population of 'Palestine' is mostly only a few generations old. Prior to Jews moving back in the late 19th century, buying land and starting businesses, the Arab population of today's Israel was tiny - and much of it was nomadic. What drew the Arabs in was the opportunity of employment provided by Jews. Ironic eh?

Leading up to WW2, the Arabs in Jerusalem were aligned with Hitler. Their leader was Amin al-Husseini and he led attacks against Jews leading up to WW2. If you search for his name and Hitler you'll find a lot of photos of him with Hitler. The man was a Nazi and the theme continued - today's radical Islam is fascist in nature. Also ironically the Left have in recent years aligned themselves with radical Islam, tainting themselves with fascism too, although they'd hotly deny it.

Yes that was a good post i learned alot ,i really didnt know what zionism was all i knew was islam didnt like it and that was good enough for me .

Well said but you should know better than engage the "People of Walmart".

Well said!

You can't reason with an entrenched belief . People parrot anti Semitic. It's all they have . If I can get one person to read "Shabti Zvi , Labor Zionism and the Holocaust" by Barry Chamish , I've had a good day . They should know the history of their nonsense . When you encounter an Israel basher , you can at least counter them with real history .

"Real History" Group

Uh oh... careful bro, you're speaking some serious truth here, and you and I both know some folks cannot handle reality well...