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It's OK to say...(all together everyone!)

Naomi 8 Apr 23
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Clinton, Obama, every msm news service in the West refrained from identifying the victims as "Christians". Let's contrast that with the way Christchurch condolences were offered. Here: Fixed it.

Nice one! On a serious note, I'm concerned about this Christians vs Muslims narrative. It's very divisive and I fear that it is doing nothing but stoke hatred between the two...

@Naomi If there is division, it didn't start with the Christians who, when they are a majority in any country, open their doors to Muslims, give them full citizenship, rights under the law, etc.

It started with the persecution and genocide of Christians in EVERY Muslim majority country....still ongoing today.

Is coexistence possible? Sure! In Western democracies, it's possible as long as Muslim numbers are less than 8%. As we are seeing in Europe, particularly in France and Germany, the minute the demographics change significantly, we start seeing no-go zones, demands for Sharia courts (already in the US), self-segregation and ghettoization of Muslims, increase in rape and violence against Jews and Christians, etc.

I know what I'm saying is VERY politically incorrect. I'm sorry to offend, but the West seems to be committing suicide by bending over backward to appease and apologize.

These tweets are only a tiny, tiny example of a larger trend.

Brilliant

@CRBG I agree, however, the United States of America is not a democracy, we are a republic. There is a huge difference in the two.

@AZWoman I mean "democracy" in a very broad sense (free and fair elections, no one above the law, etc.). I mean it as opposed to "theocracy" or "dictatorship" or "constitutional monarchy". So yeah, by my general definition, democracies include republics.

@CRBG in a republic the power lies within the people not the government. [1215.org]

@AZWoman Most people, when they use the word "democracy", mean the same thing: power to the people. It's the people who create the laws.

That's what I meant as well.

I hope that we focus on what people mean, not the semantics. Cheers.

@CRBG I get what you are saying. However, the US being a Republic is not semantics. Not to me anyway. It is an important distinction, the U.S. is the only Republic that exists.

@AZWoman Actually that's not true. If your definition of "republic" is that the people have the power, not the government, then that makes Canada, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Germany (among others) also republics. It's the people who create laws, hold representatives in government accountable, etc. Actually, Switzerland more so than any other country in the world.

The US is a free country, but it is not the only republic (if what you mean by "republic" is "people power" ).

Political correctness - what's that? LOL
I do go along with your argument, quite happily, but I have reservations about talking of Muslims (and Christians) as collective. When we paint a bad picture of Muslims in association with gang rape, ghettoisation, imposing of Sharia Law, etc., which is typical rhetoric against ALL Muslims, we walk right into identity politics. This is also the rhetoric that conveniently leaves out Muslims who contribute themselves to the Western world they belong to; I'm sure you can find some if not many in your country in various fields; academia, business, art, music, sports, film, comedy, science, armed forces, and the list goes on. (There are loads in America.)

@Naomi "I have reservations about talking of Muslims (and Christians) as collective".

Nobody generalizes about Muslims more than a Muslim self-appointed spokesperson. Did you see Ilhan Omar's tweet in which she talks about the Muslim's power to vote in block? Ilhan Omar believes her base (all American Muslims) are a powerful voting block. In this tweet, she warns politicians about the dangers of forgetting this. She doesn't view her fellow Muslims as individuals with complex ideas/reasons for voting one way or another.

Also, did you read the tweets of Hillary Clinton, Obama, every news agencies editors', etc.? When Muslims are victimized, they are referred to as "the Muslim community". They are generalized as victims. When Christians are victimized, they are referred to as "Easter Worshippers". (Makes it hard to identify with "Easter Worshippers" ). When a white guy shoots up a mosque, the entire ideology of "white supremacy" is condemned. When a Muslim suicide bombs a church, the Islamic Supremacist ideology is exempt from criticism.

These divisions are created by the Left. I'm quite happy to view individuals as complex human beings who cannot be stereotyped or categorized. However, everywhere I look, it's the left and the Muslims playing identity politics.

I have to say that I am less familiar with the American politics; I live in the UK. With regard to playing identity politics and PC. The right are just as bad in the UK... Thanks for your insightful input - interesting.

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Is any one who is unwilling to say Christian anti-christian now? See were this can be a new pushed agenda I was raised Christian I am still searching for the right place to worship I don't want to be preached at about the word of GOD I wish to be taught the word of JESUS CHRIST TO BE RECIEVED BY GOD.

Somebody else posted this video here. "Christians" seem to be replaced by "Easter worshippers"...

@Naomi yes Hillary, Obama, Debbie Stabenow, and one more

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You mean those Sunday Assemblers?

And Easter worshippers.

yes - those Easter Worshipers who were attacked by "some people" that day

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