And I should add that I don't mean White People when I say "we." I mean any dissenter to the new "woke" order. There are many and they are all colors and creeds and perhaps only The Scarlet Pimpernel can save them from Madam Guillotine.

For now anyway!

It's not retarded to notice that Caucasians are being persecuted for defending themselves against radical leftists and blacks. Once you're locked in jail there's very little that can be done for you by the standard survivalist scenario that everyone has been parroting for years.

@Triumph It would be good to be grateful for what we have rather than bemoan the fact that we don't have everything we want. I think Jesus made several references to this ideas in His teachings. America would be a much better nation if we paid attention to that.

@Pand0ro I think that was The Rolling Stones - not Jesus.

@Triumph Well, I hope we can get what we need.

@Triumph If we try some times, you might find... You'll have to ... defeat ... Some bad people who are coming for you... Such as:

"The left has completely taken over Wikipedia."

so yeah....

signed: "curvycom" Group

@curvycom Is this a contest to defeat others or an attempt to make the world a better place. It is much more effective to inspire respect than do demand respect. The real danger is the arrogance that says that I have all the answers and nobody but me.

@Pand0ro well... by defeat I mean expose, of course. Hordes of people are duped into spreading disinformation on Wiki's pages. Thinking it's ok to use such systems to lie if it's for what they are told is "a good cause." There has been a lot of exposure of wikipedia's fake articles lately. Fake articles and the people that are used by other more powerful people to waste their lives promulgating fake information.

@curvycom Please point me to some wiki articles that are spreading lies. I am always very careful of the information provided on Wikipedia and have felt that I can pretty well suss out the BS from what is valid.

@Pand0ro you certainly don't need me to do that. However recently even the founder of wikipedia has spoken out about it. So Im definitely not the first to notice

@curvycom ? You can't point out any examples?

@Pand0ro Here's one.

@Pand0ro Another one.

@Flagherty OK, that explains it.

@Pand0ro I felt you could benefit from the research on your own. But considering what was posted in my stead, I would direct you at the very least to the Wiki Article on Cultural Marxism. It is clearly not a conspiracy theory as it has received much scholarly attention for decades, and, whether you are "for it" or "against it," so to speak, it is hard to argue that it is... not... a thing. But it is presented as a conspiracy theory by a university led wiki brigade and no matter how many people try to show that there is plenty of solid academic work supporting it, including articles written by its practitioners, the article cannot be changed to include this information. It is clearly a coordinated attempt to obfuscate a real movement in academia.

I am not as concerned with it as others are though, because it's just helping to bring the idea that Wikipedia is unreliable on any controversial issue into the mainstream. But the fact that a few people think it's okay to mobilize an entire institution in order to promulgate a lie because it's what they perceive as "a good cause" is very telling.

@Pand0ro also, in fairness (to me) I DID link an article that I wrote above which made reference to that particular article,

@Pand0ro you also might consider turning that smug knob down from 11 to maybe a 6 or a 5 and just realize I in fact DID provide you with the information you wished In that I felt like looking into the Founder of Wikipedia's recent writings would provide you with much more than I could.

@curvycom I apologize for my overstated remark. I do not want to ridicule anyone and I failed in that with that remark. It is sometimes upsetting to me that posts from both ends of the spectrum do not allow for human imperfection and a sense of due humility. There are valid concerns from right and left but it is too easy to bunch either side into one group and not allow for the less strident viewpoints. Yes, there is absolute crazyness on the far left that is damaging. There is an all-or-nothing attitude on the far right that is also damaging.

@Pand0ro I agree with you very much on your last statement. And also I agree that it does do one well to remember that there is a human being on the other side of that avatar.

@Pand0ro (unless it is a bot : )

@Pand0ro and yes. I tend to see the humans on the other side of the avatar. I don't feel like this kind of discussion is a fencing match. I don't generally lump people together in groups (and I get a lot of criticism from the far left and the far right for not doing so. Seeing people as individuals who can be understood and even convinced of things, who are capable of understanding others is frowned upon by extremes on either side. However I think that bad people on either side like us to be at each other's throats and so encourage this grouping. However each individual offers a unique opportunity for reaching understanding and even friendship.

@curvycom Thank you

Also a very good point! Where indeed?