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Trump's Troubles With the Truth

There are some good reasons not to trust President Trump. His penchant for dishonest rhetoric is just one:

"It was only 200 days ago, on his 601st day in office, that President Trump exceeded 5,000 false or misleading claims.

Now, on his 801st day, the count stands at 9,451, according to The Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement the president utters. That’s a pace of 22 fishy claims a day over the past 200 days, a steep climb from the average of nearly 5.9 false or misleading claims a day in Trump’s first year in office.

Of course, not every day yields 22 claims. The president’s tally expands when he’s giving a speech, usually at a campaign rally. At such events, he runs through many of his favorite lines, such as that he passed the biggest tax cut in history, that his U.S.-Mexico border wall is already being built and that the U.S. economy today is the best in history. All three of those claims are on The Fact Checker’s list of Bottomless Pinocchios [washingtonpost.com] . At a rally in Grand Rapids, Mich., on March 28, for instance, Trump made 64 claims that ended up in the database."

[washingtonpost.com]

Germaine 6 Apr 1
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He could get rid of at least half of those fishy statements by building the wall.

@Daryl

"However, the irony is that almost every statement the Washington Post prints in correcting Trump’s lies is in itself a lie or misleading statement. So, to be clear, I’m not saying Trump is not lying. I’m saying that the way in which our mainstream media correct him is also meant to deceive us." - [truthdig.com]

Good for you for supporting the WP. As for me, I stop reading when it becomes obvious they are unrepentingly lying to me.

@Daryl If you know your witness is going to lie on the stand, do you call him forward to testify? Do you want to be deceived?

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The only reason for the untruth numbers is anything Trump says is twisted by the MSM to end up in a negative light. If Trump said it's raining in Washington D.C. the MSM noticed it was only covering 33% of the D.C. area would call that a lie. All POTUS lie and all could have every statement double and triple checked and subjected to interpetation then you'd find the numbers about equal.

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If you’re so pro MSM. What brought you here to IDW community ?

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Totally agree he's dishonest. But the "fact checkers" are dishonest also.

@Daryl Did I say that?

@Daryl so if I think both Trump and the fact checkers can be dishonest, then somehow I'm saying "nothing is true?"

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The question who are the fact checkers to determine which is a lie or not. ?

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I’ve never personally known or hung out with a “fact-checker”...pretty sure they’re NOT the life of the Party ???

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To be fair, why is it always about Trump's lies? ALL politicians lie to get things done. He was a billionaire first. They don't get to be that way always telling the truth. Now he's a politician, which expands on the lies. Pelosi, Schumer, just to name a couple, have continually lied about a great number of things too. Elections now are almost mainly about who seems more genuine than the other. Neither side really has any universal agenda to speak of.

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Wow! I can't believe i read about 90% of this thread lol. But it's refreshing to see a communist post a rant, and get mauled by a bunch of Americans. Usually it's the other way around.

Daryl, your passion, attention to detail and constitution are admirable to say the least. If you ever decide you love your country again, if you ever did, Americans could use as many of 'you' as we can get. You're a true believer, just not in things compatible with American values. But if i ever came by a worthy convert, it would be you.

Keep fighting for what ya believe in Brudda & i wish ya luck, 'cause ur gonna need it.

@Daryl
Well then i'm curious Daryl, given the sources you've clearly advocated in this thread, what exactly is it you are fighting for?

@Daryl

Hmm. Well this democracy is loaded with corruption, under COLOR of law instead of rule. One of it's major tools to opiate the masses & keep them too fearful to exercise personal freedom, is the collection of media sources you've been advocating,

So naturally i am curious as to how you are balancing those contradictions in your pragmatic rationale. Based on your posts, you don't strike me as a willy nilly, led by the nose zombie.

So i'll keep reading 'cause maybe there's a connection i'm missing that will clear it up in my mind.

Keep believin' Brudda

@Daryl

A call for violence? Interesting, not a leap i would've made myself. Why was that the first guess you had?

I'm talking about the conditioning of society over the last 70+ yrs to trust the state vs ourselves in the governing of our lives. You know, govern thyself or thy will be governed? David Rockefellor himself thanked the media for it's complicity in moving the democratic, state run agenda forward, in his auto biography.

The complicity of the MSM has never been as clear as it is today, evidenced by it's glaring bias toward the Democrats and it' blind obédience to their agenda. Their maniacal conviction to see Trump burn is as plain as the nose on your face, and i think for good reason.

Love or hate the guy, he's clearly an outsider to the establishment and scares the living hell out of them, and all the screaming being done, including this "Trump the perpetual liar" mantra, as apposed to every Pres since Reagan being such boy scouts, is typical of the communist screaming mimi's on the left. So naturally, as i've already said, there appears to be a conflict in your independence, but i digress.

There are plenty of good, factual independant news sources available should one seek them out. But strict adherence to those you put forth is gonna be suspicious to say the least, and lack any credibility at worst.

@Daryl

"OK. You are talking about doing social engineering to shape society in a way you approve of. Well, guess what. Everyone wants to do that, me included. It's called politics"

Yes, it IS social engineering. No, not everyone wants that, only those ego maniacs who think they are superior to society. That 'rule of law' you spoke of, along with a sound monetary system such as the one we once had, negates any need for social engineering. As far as politics, you may be a fan but i'm not.

No need to varify your claims on Trump. I've seen your sources so that's a non-starter & as for factual ones; newstarget, alternative news, natural news, drudge, news with views, rt, etc. etc. Take ur pic.

@Daryl

LMAO ur KILLIN' me Smalls!

Yep, ya better stay with ur fact checkers. Likely the best place for ya. Again, good luck Brudda

@Daryl

Oh c'mon Daryl, offended by the Sandlot reference? Awfully sensative for a pragmatic rationalist lol. Whatever the hell THAT is.

Lighten up Buttercup

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I would like to add that people in politics are required by law to tell us the truth. It's now how they tell us thst matters it's thst they do to stay within the law.
Whitmore is a great example of this with her campaign of "Fix the dam road's" well she was not lieing in that was her plan she just never said how. Not she is elected she is saying how and it will take 4 year's and higher taxes. "Word's and the way they are used are inportant. ( no i did not vote for her)
Obama is another good example of this he has used the word pizza in addressing welcomes from other countries saying "we became such close friends they no longer offer us Pizza anymore.
To many this is nothing right? To me and those who reseach to protect their children and Grandchildren, we know pizza is a pedophile CODE WORD for Girl and HOTDOG is for boy. There are more you can find them on the FBI website but remember they may change and symbols do deviate.
So being me after i listen to this i started at the reseaching, and found a article were it said Obama spent 65 thous on pizza and hotdogs to be flown in to Washington ( i thought B.S. RIGHT who would not) then i went to Wikileaks. And in an Email. There it is Obama must use the same SOURCES for Pizza and hotdogs as i do.
WIKILEAKS HAS A 100% ACCURACY RATING. I did not stop there. But you get the point.
He told the truth in plain sight and nobody was the wiser.
So again we are all responsible to do our own investigative reseach.

@Daryl i was reffering to rules of ethics and conduct sorry i upset you by saying law.
And Trump being sued is not proof of anything again anyone can sue anyone. And so far He has won right??
This is not about what i think about Hillary and Obama i reseach all of them. The FACT'S about Obama are here reseach them for yourself i beg you to do so as well as the e mail's released from Hillary.
I'm a truth seeker not a people basher

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