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You can have a technologically advanced nation, or you can have a pluralistic nation made up of competing ethnic and racial groups that subsidizes and rewards irresponsibility or can you have both. Please elucidate your response in a comment for the benefit of the Community's understanding.

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society needs to be educated a lot. people should be taught pride in themselves, their work, their success. the worst thing to happen to people is to give them free money.

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A good one for thought, thank you. I think we need more options here. I believe you can have a technologically advanced nation and a pluralistic society, but not one that subsidizes and rewards irresponsibility. I think you could add at least one other dimension here, for example a pledge by all citizens to honour the rule of law.

skaarda Level 7 May 31, 2020
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The relationship between technology and an irresponsible pluralistic society determines sustainability.
You can have either or, but together they are the future.

Rick-A Level 8 May 31, 2020
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It’s a silly choice. Just like the silly choice for president

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What other successful and properly organized countries have pluralistic nation states?

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Victor Davis Hanson thinks you can have both, I will go with his opinion.

wolfhnd Level 8 May 30, 2020

@dd54

We are much richer today than we were in 1968. We have spent a lot of money on "social justice" since them and we are still here half a century later. All we need to do is create a lot of excess wealth and stop importing more people to integrate.

You can go back in time and see that a century and a.half ago many people thought the Irish could never be integrated into society but they are so integrated you don't know who they are.

We have to stop socialism of course.

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For the most part "social justice" has shielded the upper classes from the political consequences of poverty. They no more want to deal with rioting mobs than their counterparts in Rome did. Of course today's bread and circus is very different but the process is similar.

@dd54

The civil rights movement was influenced in a way by the tendency of academics to take Marxist theory seriously in much the same way SJWs have been influenced by post modernists who were steeped in Marxist theory. In this case I'm referring to the civil rights movement and it's influence on the great society programs to end poverty and referring to them as "social justice".

For the most part SJWs keep the oppressed from focusing on corporations and government by directing there attention at the deplorables and imaginary Nazis. If they get out of hand corporations stop funding them as Google recently did by reducing investment in "diversity".

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Technology and forms of government or culture are not related demographics.

@dd54, in my opinion there is no cogent question.

@dd54, And how do you co-relate technology and the highly subjective and probably unmeasurable irresponsible "pluralistic" society? Your unsupported premise is that they are related, even though it seems unlikely that you can prove so.

@dd54. Granted that we probably agree, I still am not prepared to accept the premises without some kind of argument of establishment. Marx was fond of calling capitalism corrupt, then drawing a conclusion based on his unfounded assertion of its corruption. Circular logic. Sound familiar?

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All are based on false premises.

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