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Justice Hugo Black began this intellectual train wreck in the 1940s by plucking this obscure phrase from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association and codifying it into law based on pretty much nothing. This is exactly why Jefferson in his lifetime was so deeply suspicious of an activist judiciary.

magapundit 5 July 22
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This PragerU video is flawed right from the get-go. No, the Founding Fathers did not see Biblical religion as indispensable to the founding of America. Jefferson was a FF, and he had many criticisms with the Bible, even making his own with many passages removed.

So if the Church and State aren't to be separate, then we can tax all churches. Is that correct? We can stop giving people religious exemption from laws then?

I am for pulling ALL tax exemptions including Clinton foundations. Churches used to be the safety net and therefore got tax exemptions.

The Constitution says nothing about "separation of church and state" It does say Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". It seems to me that you completely misread that first part and completely ignore the second.
How did the Founding Fathers understand the term "an establishment of religion?" To them it meant something like the Church of England where the King is the head of the church, attendance is mandated by law and the church is supported by government. That is like ancient history to us but it was fairly recent history to them.
As for Thomas Jefferson I don't know what you meant be that term FF but I do know that following the American Revolution he was heavily influenced by the atheism of the French Revolution and became a Unitarian although I don't think he actually became an atheist. In his later years when he was near death he returned to God and reconciled with his old rival John Adams.
Lastly the only religion in this country that considers itself exempt from the law is the woketard religion of the Left. Yes they are a religion, they have all the worst aspects of a pagan religious cult.

@magapundit FF = Founding Father. Jefferson was a Founding Father, and he did not think Christianity was required for the function of American society. Thomas Paine and Ethan Allen were Deists, not Christians. Benjamin Franklin and James Monroe were skeptics and didn't believe in the supernaturalism of the Bible. So right off the bat, the video is wrong in saying the Founding Fathers wanted America to be specifically a Christian moral society. This is extremely evident in the First Amendment, as allowing religious freedom is antithetical to the First Commandment and Biblical dogma.

Establishment of Religion has a pretty clear definition. It means you can't create law exclusively based on a particular religious viewpoint. So something like saying same-sex couples cannot get married because the Bible says it is wrong is against the Constitution. If you say there is no separation of Church and State, then churches can be forced to pay property taxes, and people cannot be allowed to circumvent federal laws based on cherry-picked religious claims.

"free exercise thereof" - ok, so then if someone's religious belief is that prostitution or drug use is okay, then the government cannot interfere. So you agree with that, and are perfectly fine with both being legalized? Satanists believe in bodily autonomy, so they should be allowed to go around any abortion restrictions? People who have religious viewpoints that their gender identity is separate from what they were assigned at birth should be accommodated in all aspects? So you agree with all of that?

You sound sooooo smart using terms like "woketard religion of the Left". Sorry, but a political or social ideology is not the same as a religion. And you want to talk about cults... have you ever even seen Christianity? You also realize Christianity borrows about 90% from these "pagan cults"?

I think taxing religions is a great idea but I think it will take another linguistic sleight of hand like the "separation of church and state" to pull it off. However, discontinuing religious exemption from laws is tantamount to "prohibiting the free exercise thereof." There are some laws that are repugnant to devout Christians and refusal to participation in some activities is in itself an active part of exercising their faith.

@Geofrank

discontinuing religious exemption from laws is tantamount to "prohibiting the free exercise thereof." There are some laws that are repugnant to devout Christians and refusal to participation in some activities is in itself an active part of exercising their faith.

That is all fine and dandy, but where do you draw the line? Part of "prohibiting the free exercise thereof" means you cannot discriminate on someone's religion, and you cannot pick and choose which religions are valid and which are not, or which individual viewpoints are deeply held or not. There are some laws that are repugnant to people of non-Christian religions, and you can't tell them that their objections are any less valid that the Christians' objections.

Hobby Lobby gets an exemption on insurance coverage for birth control due to religious beliefs... well, why can't a corporation run by Christian Scientists, who believe that prayer is the only form of healthcare allowed, just flat out refuse insurance coverage altogether? Why can't a corporation decide to refuse to hire women because their religious viewpoint is that women should be at home raising kids?

Laws against public indecency and nudity prohibit the free exercise of nudists. A federal ban on peyote prohibits the free exercise of native religions which smoke peyote. A federal ban on marijuana prohibits the free exercise of Rastafarians. The crimes leveled against NXIVM prohibit the free exercise of their religion. Placing restrictions on abortion prohibits the free exercise of Satanists. Banning prostitution and other sex work prohibits the free exercise of people whose religion says it is to be allowed.

What is the difference in refusing to serve someone because they are gay and refusing to serve someone if they are Black or a woman? Why are there laws being passed to ban Sharia Law when it prohibits the free exercise of Muslims who practice Sharia Law? Can an Atheist refuse to accept US currency because their religious viewpoint is against the "in god we trust" printed on it?

Kim Davis was an elected county clerk who refused to allow her office to issue marriage certificates (a completely secular civil procedure) to same sex couples, citing religious objections. Many religious-rights people defended her. So then why can't an ER doctor refuse to save the life of a dying Jewish person because their religious viewpoint is that Jews should be dead? Why can't a person who runs the unemployment office decide to reject all claims by Black people because their religious view is that Black people should be slaves?

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