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Boebert the Criminal

JacksonNought 8 Dec 13
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George Floyd has surpassed her record by miles and he has statues erected to honor him.

Are you suggesting we put up statues of Lauren?

Not at all. We have become a bit fickle about putting up and taking down statues. I thought I made my point clear enough. If we want to criticize her policies with arguments showing that they are unwise, that seems legitimate to me. If we want to criticize her because she does not meet our standards, then we must go to the voters in her district and persuade them that this is important. Just because she fails our aesthetic tests does not mean that the voters in her district will agree. If we have something to say--pro or con--about her stand on issues, that would be worth hearing. But if we don't like her, that is not terribly interesting. She is a representative, not a potential interpersonal companion. Moreover, ad hominem dismissals are easy to do; that does not make them fair or wise. Just out of curiosity, however, why would you think erecting a statue to her is even a relevant response.

When the cops kneel on her neck and kill her, then maybe?

@JacksonNought It would appear that you are having those violent fantasies again, JN. You know that you are not supposed to stop taking your medicine. When you do, you become triggered by rational thought.

@givpd

I was just being facetious and humourous at Jackson's post. He compares Lauren's anti-mask mandate arrests to putting a gun in a pregnant woman's belly while he robs here

@Sensrhim4hizvewz Lauren wasn't arrested for being anti-mask though? She was arrested multiple times before even becoming a member of Congress, including for disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, and not showing up for her court appointments. Then we also have her registered sex offender and domestic abuser husband...

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We have built a monument statue to honor the memory and work of MLK just at the time we have decided not to listen to what he had to say to us. I find that ironic. But please note that MLK was also arrested; in fact, he was imprisoned nearly thirty times. But I would not call him a criminal. Would you? I have read Letter from a Birmingham Jail, and we need to listen to what he has to say despite his arrest record. I should hope you would agree. Dismissing his wisdom because of his incarcerations would be illogical--what logicians call a genetic fallacy. You certainly would not want to be guilty of that.

By itself, having a criminal record does not make one a hero or a villain. Jesus Christ was arrested and convicted, as were Paul and Peter. Then again, so were Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy. Then again, Eugene V. Debs ran for president in 1920 from a federal penitentiary and won about 3.4% of the vote. I would not call Boebert's criminal record insignificant. It is not something that commends her. She must explain her behavior to the voters in her district. But does her record disqualify the polices that she supports and dismiss her as a candidate? You need to talk about policies and legislation. That you, a man, find that a woman legislator does not measure up to your standards is hardly interesting--and somewhat offensive. In fact, your claim about her lack of formal education is not an argument against any policy position that she holds. Of course, lack of education does not commend her either. She may be a fool, but Benjamin Franklin, Abraham Lincoln, and Frederick Jackson did not have formal educations. Franklin's education ended at ten, and Jackson rose from slavery. Of course, that's not an argument against education, but the way you describe her suggests that she has none. That is not true, as you well know. Nonetheless, she must make rational arguments in favor of the policies that she supports. Criticize those arguments and stop the ad hominem dismissals.

Now, I am not a supporter of Boebert. She is not a representative in my state. So I won't defend her criminal record, any more than I would defend the criminal records of other legislators in the House and the Senate (there are quite a few, incidentally) that share that distinction with her. Nor will I defend her lack of education. Moreover, her comment to Ilhan Omar was offensive and out of line. She has apologized, as she should. But Ilhan Omar's antisemitic comments were also offensive and out of line. She also apologized. It would be illogical to justify Boebert's bad behavior by citing Omar's bad behavior, but if we are going to be critical, then let's use the same measuring standard and use that standard in the same way. You don't like Boebert? I get that, and that's fine with me. But talk about the issues she supports with which you have problems. The fact that you find her character less than acceptable will matter only if you persuade enough voters that it does. She may not be the brightest bulb in the package, but that can happen in nation in which voters select their representatives. After all, AOC also got elected, and she cannot push a proposition against a logical operator without hurting herself. But I will leave her to the voters in her district.

givpd Level 6 Dec 13, 2021
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Does that make her the blackest member of Congress?

sqeptiq Level 10 Dec 13, 2021

You forgot your "first" hashtag.

Is this your job?

@JacksonNought Don't you think it's wonderful that the humblest Americans have a congresswoman they can relate to? #first

@sqeptiq by humblest you mean dumbest?

@JacksonNought Inclusion and representation are all the rage these days. Do you think high school graduates and jailbirds deserve inclusion and representation in Congress?

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Maybe she wants to be able to relate to the Black Community?

@sqeptiq nice try, but the GED and arrests aren't why she is stupid.

@JacksonNought Do you think the stupid deserve inclusion and representation in Congress?

@sqeptiq if you believe JFK Jr is still alive and Tom Hanks eats babies, and you live tweet the location of the Speaker to people looking to murder her, then no - you should not be in Congress.

Maybe she should stick to her restaurant. Although perhaps not even that, as she consistently ignores health codes and gave people food poisoning.

@JacksonNought Lol, you're spewing conspiracy theories and imputing them to me under the figleaf of "if."

@sqeptiq seems you have a problem with comprehension. I'm talking about Boebert. These are things she believes. Hence, she should not be in Congress.

@JacksonNought You wrote "if you believe" addressing me. You should work on your writing comprehension, retard.

@sqeptiq apparently you don't know English all too well.

@JacksonNought Apparently you don't care to write clearly.

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