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Michael Moore’s new movie — surprisingly — exposes renewables like wind, solar and biomass as scams.

“Planet of the Humans” correctly acknowledges that the renewables industry couldn’t exist, without a strong fossil fuel sector. “Green” infrastructure is dependent on fossil fuel products, directly and indirectly. Try building a wind farm without fossil fuel support. In addition wind and solar require massive public subsidies to make them viable. And they’re still completely unreliable.

Not surprisingly, woke progressives want the film — and Moore — silenced.

[nationalpost.com]

GeeMac 8 May 5
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Michael Moore -- darling of the right?

Pand0ro Level 7 May 16, 2020

Yep. It’s been a really strange year. I don’t even wanna ask what’s next.

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"Humans bad" is the Leftist mantra for greater government control.

Humans are a small part of the animal kingdom that are part of the planet. THERE IS NO STANDARD OF WHAT THE PLANET SHOULD BE, because it has been in the state of change since it was a dust mote around the Sun, and will continue to be changing until it is consumed by the supernova of the Sun. We and all of the animal and plant kingdom are part of that change.

But if Moore had any idea what he was talking about, he would know that every industrial nation in the World has populations in decline, and the trends show that even India and Indonesia are not growing fast enough to make up the difference. But who cares about the facts?

And one of the biggest lies of the Left is that carbon dioxide is bad. For the last thousand years the carbon dioxide that fuels plant life on Earth has been on a steady decline, and is nearing the point of plant extinction. See Dr Patrick Moore.


Human production of CO2 has acted to delay that inevitability, not doom the planet. Don't let idiots like Michael Moore tell you what to think.

The romantic, progressive, leftist, woke idea of the human parasite is truly disgusting. It was built on the nutty ideas of Jean Jacques Rousseau who believed envy, competition, aggression and violence resulted from humans gathering in groups and communities. Thus his ideal of the “noble savage”, innocently swinging from tree branches in the virgin wilderness.

This idea has gained new life during the Covid crisis as woke sentimentalists opine about Mother Nature’s “reset”, and flood the web with conspiracy theories and meme’s reimagining the pandemic, not as a health crisis, but a social justice issue. Truly makes me sick 😷

@GeeMac. I'm with you on that GeeMac. I think its a kind of mental illness.

@TimTuolomne I just don’t get the progressives who value bamboo trees and polar bears more than human beings.

@GeeMac. Yup. Like a version of feminism against men, socialism against personal rights, and atheism against gratitude. Leftism is against everything, including the good.

Nigeria and Africa as a whole have the highest population growth. Warehouses seems to be the highest growth businesses. It seems there may be a time where a cork needs to be put in place somewhere.

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While its interesting to think that Moore might’ve put out a film that is truthful (how’d THAT happen?) ...

The downsides and fallacies of “Renewable Energy” has been extremely well documented and easily available to anyone who cared to look.

Thats not to say “renewables” have NO market ... NO Value ... but that they’re niche items (except those massive wind turbines which are simply stupid).

If you have a cabin in the middle of nowhere, solar with batteries can be good ... or on a sailboat ... or calculators or ...
If you have a farm, biomass can be great because you’ve got LOTS of feedstock ...

"The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels" (book) by Alex Epstein is the most complete argument I've read on the topic. I still have to check out Moore's vid but I am certain it will not eclipse the case Epstein puts together.

@NonAgrssvMight It it doesn’t eclipse Epstein. Not even close. THe film merely raises the green fraud as a building block toward its central, woke-progressive message: the film makers see climate change as a symptom of the larger, “real” issue of overpopulation.

So while the attack on renewables is a surprise, the movie, at its core is still woke-leftist agitprop that disgustingly views humans as parasites.

@Bay0Wulf raises a key point: since the green fallacies have been well documented for some time, why are so many people, especially young, supposedly, well-educated people, not listening?

How has the left managed to so effectively black ball fossil fuels and mining — without which wind turbines and solar cells couldn’t exist?

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It does not justify its premises or its conclusions as to the need for alternative fuels. But it does expose facts about the corruption surrounding it that people need to see. I'd recommend you watch it with your kids so you can point out the logic fallacies and biases.

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The film asks really obvious questions that I have not heard mentioned in any media coverage of renewables.

Like:
What is it made of and what is the energy cost of production?

How long will this alternative energy source last?

What is "biomass" ?

The answers are not surprising it is the failure to ask the questions in the media that I found alarming.

waynus Level 7 May 5, 2020

@dd54 Their dogma requires they tell us. It doesn't specify truthfulness.

@waynus woke progressives melt down when the media is called “the enemy of the people.” But your point is important because the media refuses to ask questions that don’t fit the woke narrative: anything related to the environment, race or gender. Anyone asking those questions is shouted down as a racist, a bigot or a denier.

The media is failing the people completely.

Harvesting energy in the quantity needed to service our present population is going to have negative consequences no matter how we source it. How long does a single large wind turbine last, and how many polluting materials and manufacturing processes to make it? Solar energy takes up surface space and changes the land that it covers, along with toxic waste from making collectors. LED bulbs while electrically efficient are made with toxic materials. I don't know if cost/benefit analysis have been made on the different sources, but it probably should.

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