@Daryl Go to DuckDuckGo and search "Google manipulates search results" and compare with the same results on Google Search.. Even though Google says all its results are algorhitm driven, someone has to write the algorhitms. DuckDuckGo does not keep a record of one's previous searches or socia-media content like Google does. The manipulation of search results can be very important, especially leading up to elections, or when discussing media manipulation.

@Daryl Did you do as I suggested?? Did you get the exact same results on both sites? If the results were different, did you try to figure out in what way they differed??

@Daryl Even with everything you just said, I absolutely stand firm, I am not a racist, I actually have biracial children. And I hate the idea of anyone treating them differently because of the color of their skin. Racist talk and behavior is disgusting, and offensive, but, I would fight to the death for any one persons right to say it. And yes even if its hate speech, who are you or anyone else to decide what hate speech is, thats a slippery fukn slope, you or someone else starts deciding what constitutes hate speech when many others find they feel differently about that. If you are a grown ass adult, and you are afraid that what? someone might convince you that racism is a good thing? are you worried about the wrong combination of words being uddered is going to trigger some violence in you? Because me My self, I've read the Quran, I've read Mien Kampf, I've read many biographies, memoirs, and about Stalin, Karl Marx, and nothing that I have read no matter how hateful, or biased, has changed outlook on life, Im an adult, and don't need a bible, or set of rules to tell me the difference between right and wrong, to help others when I am able, to defend and protect those who can not protect themselves, to treat people with dignity and respect. I also learned to that its EXTREMELY BENIFICIAL to listen to what is being said and who is saying it, speak softly carry a big stick, and that sometimes not having a reaction is the best reaction. There is no one in this world or words that can move me or anyone else to commit violence, no matter what they say. That is a choice a person makes, and they should deal with the consequences when they do, so calling something HATE SPEECH, and trying to silence it, says to me, that what you think is more important that what anyone else thinks, and you have made a decision for everyone else, that honestly is none of your fukn bussiness. When I hear something I don't want to hear, or I know is garbage, I Silence it, by changing the channel, or station, or walking away. I guess if you feel that your opinion of what one may want to say is so much more important, and that "BECAUSE YOU" have deemed it "HATE SPEECH" it should be stopped or shut down, absolutely would make you arrogant, self righteous, and selfish, because then its what? Just your opinion getting put out there. I don't need anyone to filter, screen, or warn me that something may be filth, nonsense, or hate speech, and I sure as fuk don't need anyone deciding what is okay for me to hear. I like to hear even the worst of what is being said, I think its important to know your enemy, the way they think, what tools they use to gain momentum, it is very helpful in how I respond. Words arent violent, people are violent, and that is a fact, I am very voilent by nature, and I am peaceful by choice, Violence isnt always the answer, but sometimes it is the only answer.

@Daryl Its actually funny to read you ask what one is to do when someone is lying, being deceitful, and hateful? And then I read what you wrote about Donald Trump, and then I am again wondering what does one do? I guess since I/they know that when someone is being dishonest, deceitful, or hateful its good to educate your self on the topic, Like I have followed what Trump has been doing for many many years, and even with people chopping up his speeches, and very dishonestly creating a statement, out of many many things he has said, that sounds racist, but all completely out of context, which one of them almost suprised me, but then I searched for the full speech, and found that the bullshit that was created was so far out of context, and the real speech actualy had the opposite intention and meaning, I know better then to react and form an opinion based soley off of what I have heard, or been told, "as I am sure you have done" and to look deeper, and learn cause what someone is saying, sometimes is not nearly as important as who said it first, how they are delivering it, and what is the reaction they are looking for. I know you were trying to make a point, unfortunetly for you, you used the wrong person and opinion, all you did was actually prove my point, and I mean you really fukn drove it home...lol THank you sir

@Daryl Correct. Censorship is NOT an acceptable solution.

@Daryl Those are already illegal and punishable by law---if that is what a court decides has occurred. Don't hang the cowpoke for rustling till he gets his chance at court.

@Daryl I am impressed by your obvious passion on the subject. You could put that passion to practical use by leading a movement to facilitate litigation against politicians who are able to fulfill their campaign promises but refuse to do so.

@Daryl You are desiring the elimination of free speech for people you disagree with--those whom you decided are lieing, or working emotions wrongly. Manipulation can come from all sides at times--in fact, each of us here with any particular POV could be described as trying to manipulate others--we are, but by discussion and hopefully logic. The getting-emotional aspect is almost entirely a thing enjoyed (or suffered) by those on the Left .

@Daryl Do you not realize all those posts denigrating Trump are because the Left controls the media?? If Obama had done the same things, the press would be glorifying his actions and speech.

@Daryl Who do you think is doing the most mind manipulation, lying, and deceiving--Trump or the Media??

@Daryl We appear to live in different universes.

@Daryl Thats a whole lot of you injecting your opinion as fact, and just what we are talking about. That Trump or his Admin, or even breitbart, or info wars is dishonest is YOUR OPINION, I say opinion, because in two years, after hearing nothing but how racist, divisive, hateful, Donald Trump is, I have yet even once for someone to actually show me some proof, any fukn thing that is real, He's labeled as a racist, the guy that received awards from Muhammad Ali, and Rosa Parks for work he has done in their communities, hes labeled Xenophobic, only hes married to an immigrant, I have heard so many accusations and seen ZERO evidence of any of them. NOT FUKN 1. I truly believe that because of people like you that just put that shit out there with no evidence, that so many sheeple believe it so easily, and then go out and protest, and then asked what specifically they are protesting, that don't have a fukn clue. Donald Trump is any of those things because why Daryl? This is a prime example, I have been watching Donald Trump and the incredible things he has done for countless people and communities, for 35 + years now, and no one had a negative thing to say about him, until he ran against "A DEMORAT", and that's a god dam fact. But its good that you have the right to your DARK FREE SPEECH Daryl, because some of us already know better then to believe that nonsense, and yes that is just my opinion, your speech labeling our duly elected President I would consider dark, and divisive, because its just your opinion, with no evidence at all, just ill informed and in my opinion way way off of the truth. Like I said, I will fight to the death for your right to say it, and because I know better, it actually only makes me laugh. I am glad that you spit that nonsense out tho...lol good luck with that.

@Daryl Some immigrants are good people. Those that come here legally. The rest of those are breaking our laws and are therefore, bad people. The rage has nothing to do with race. I would be just as angry if green men from mars were sneaking in with drugs, exploited women and children, and terrorist gangs. That is your side manufacturing rage towards us, the legal American Citizens. Trump labels ILLEGAL Immigrants as bad, not legal ones. No illegal immigrants, no problems.

@Daryl "Some ” <> "All" therfore you are either being willfully ignorant in your standing by your assertion, or else you are knowingly lying about it.

Further, you continue to assert that DJT is a racist and a bigot, with no proof given of either, again respouting a well known talking point of the very types of lies we're all getting tired of. So, again, you are either willfully ignorant or are knowingly lying about it (unless you cite some specific instances other than him talking about illegal aliens coming over our border from Mexico, which had no racial content other than what your read into it).

You seem to have a raging case of TDS. You might ought look at that, and get some rationality back...

@Daryl He hates the free press because they have called him treasonous and illegitimate from day one with absolutely no facts to back up their accusations. It's interresting to me which media "facts" you appear to believe and which you deem distructive to the democracy. The people being attacked are the ones with the MAGA hats on, the rest have been hoaxes, just like Russian Hoax. If it were up to me to ban hate speech, which I would never dream of doing, it would be the left wing haters. That is why you are wrong to want to ban what you have been lead to believe is hatred by Trump. You are listening to and believing the hateful liars. The left-winged media is doing everything they can to shut down the opinions on the right by caling them racist, begotted etc. That is why I'm checking out this platform. We are not being hateful, we deserve to be heard, before it's too late.

@Daryl "That rises to the level of treason when coupled with his past treasonous actions, e.g., “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, referring to emails Mrs. Clinton had deleted from the private account she had used when she was secretary of state. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

Dude, it was a joke. Clinton opened herself up to hacking by using a private server to begin with. She should be in jail for treason, and selling Uranium, and taking money from foreign governments via the Clinton Foundation. This whole Russian Hoax was perptrated to get her off the hook. Podesta was hacked by a phishing scam. Those that have been indicted were for lying under oath. Funny how Hillary didn't have to be interviewed under oath. Obama said on a hot mike he would be able to assist the Russians once he was reelected. What did that mean exactly? Sounds treasonous to me. You are only siting the sources that have been lying all along. They are the haters and liars. Look for the real facts. There has been nothing substantial or illegal found by Mueller that has to do with treason or rigging an election and there won't be. Rosenstein has already declared that the Russians did not hack votes. I hated Clinton long before 2016. The Russians did not spread anything that was not already true to change votes. You are on the hateful side, start with yourself by not spreading lies that incite violence of left wingers.

@shash Thank youbfor pointing out the ILLEGAL part, not really sure why an entire group of people would continue to accuse a guy of hating all immigrants when he ie married to one, or that its conetantly over looked that sneaking into this country unchecked automaticly makes you a god dam criminal. Not sure if you noticed but each time you spell eomething out for that guy in the manner he ie clearly mistaken, he has to try and throw something else out about Trump. I have followed this all since the beggining, wnd habe not heard one racistor even offensive word out of his mouth, and it is baffling how much the left leaning media has influenced eo many sheeple, its breath taking. Kinda funny that a guy who on more than one occasion has received awards from the mowt important and influential people in the black community , Muhhammed Ali, Rosa Parks, only became a racist after running against the democratic party, oinda funny how that worked out.

@Daryl Your sources are the hateful liars promoting the violence you claim you are against. If you want to connect the real dots and get the truth you are going to have to seek out conservative sources. Rush, Beck, Tucker, Bongino, Brietbart, etc. Otherwise, your facts are wrong. [realclearpolitics.com]

@Daryl I knew it, they were indicted. I heard they wanted to come and be tried in our courts. Funny how nothing happened with that. Because, they were never supposed to be tried. I just skimmed through a few Google pages and there was nothing else said about it after July 14, 2018. That's because it was a nothingburger. Watch my link.with Dan Bongino.

@Daryl What is the specific thing the Russians did to "influence" the election. Is there a specific meme? If so, please post it. All I've ever heard is vague generalizations and speculations. What is the exact evidence they have on these 12 Russian bloggers/hackers. Please tell me what the Russians did to me to make me not vote for Hillary.

@Daryl It is vague, What was the conspiracy, what was the specific lies? I want to see the actual memes and the proof it was the Russians. Everyone on Facebook is trying to influence the election with their posts. Facebook, itself, was trying to influence the election by shadow banning. Zuckerberg should be under investigation. I dare you to watch my link.

@Daryl Based on your immigration views, you are probably ok with non citizens voting, that would be foreign entities influencing our elections. Posting a meme, weather true or false, is not at all the same as casting an actual illegal vote.

@Daryl All you do is throw out the same actuations with absolutely no real examples. Show me a specific example of a Russian lie about Hillary. Hillary was already damaged. The Clintons are as wicked as they come.

@Daryl You are closed minded if you won't watch the video I linked to. Dan Bongino clearly lays out the true crimes committed against Trump and We the People. Trump did not collude with Russians, but Obama and Hillary did. Look outside your bubble.

@Daryl An indictment without a trial and conviction = a presumption of innocence

@Daryl Trump is innocent, Hillary is guilty. Did you watch my link yet?

@Daryl I did look at your links and 90% of all media is left-winged bias. Hard to not hear from the otherside. I know of all the accusations you state. If you believe everything Trump is accused of and believe the Clintons are innocent, then you live in a very closed world. I'm glad you are at least open enough to view other opinions here. But, you are not open enough to listen to my link, are you? Trump was a business man earning his own money. I'm sure, not everything he did, was on the up and up. I did not vote for him based on an impecable record. I voted for him based on the Clintons' criminal record against the American people. The Clintons have always lived off of tax payer money and used it to get rich. There is a double standard when the swamp protects the Clintons and indict Trump and his people for far lesser crimes, most accusations made against Trump are not even illegal. He too, has not been convicted of anything. If you want part of the truth, please watch my link. Or remain in the dark, your choice.

@Daryl So you won't even listen to a speech given by someone who studied all the people involved in the Russian Hoax and wrote a best selling book. Someone who work on the inside as a secret service officer.

@Daryl So it matters not to you that all the lawyers working with Mueller, worked for Hillary or Obama. Mueller is ruthless, he put Martha Stewert in jail. All they are doing is looking for anything they can. Hence the Witch Hunt! Nothing any one has been arrested for has had anything to do with Russia. Mueller sucks his victims dry, interrogates them over and over and convicts them for Lying under oath about less important crimes and totally bankrupts them in the process. They have no way to fight it. Meanwhile, Hillary never goes under oath, scrubs the evidence, and the people who worked for her never get raided in the middle of the night at gun point with media coverage of them being arrested. I never said a best seller equated with truth. Hillary wrote a best seller full of lies. I was simply giving you an example of someone who collected and analized the facts and put the peices together and linked the players like the detective he is. Obama spied on Americans far more then Nixon ever dreamed of doing. The difference being one was Republican and the media slaughtered him, your biased media does everything they can to cover for Obama and Hillary. Just like Mueller is doing.

@Daryl Why bother, I'll give you credit for coming here to seek other views but I just got done reading an extremely lengthly thread about climate change you had and it only solidified for me that you have no intension of stepping outside your propaganda bubble, which is sad. If you can watch that video with Dan Bongino and not see the truth and call his facts conspiracy, then you're a hopeless cause. I can't save you from the propaganda machine if you refuse to open your eyes to the facts and logic that people put in front of you.

@Daryl You said all that on the other tread I read and the other guy you were debating gave you hundreds of other facts and sources that you simply dismissed with the same propaganda the left has brained washed you with. It used to be scientific consenous that too many eggs would kill you. Now science is finding that the egg is the perfet food to eat. The whole food pyramid is wrong after teaching it for 40 years. Scientists can't agree on what is the best mixture of nutrients for our bodies, how the hell can the know what molecules are best for the atmosphere. More CO2 grows more food for starving countries.

@Daryl If you were really a social libertarian, fiscal conservative you would clearly see that the Green New Deal or any other solutions on the left would take away your individual freedom and bankrupt the people and the country. That is the reason for the hoax. The left wants to take away freedoms and drive us into socialism so that we will be at their mercy. Whether the science is true or false, taxing carbon will destroy the world as we know it far quicker then any "climate change" that is occuring. We will starve like they are in Venezula, millions will die, and the World will balance itself.

@Daryl I am not the expert, nor do I have a collection of research to throw at you, but the guy you were debating in that other thread debunked your "majority consenous" over and over again. I read most of his proof, you obviously did not even read or consider any of it. You repeat the same propaganda over and over like a programed parrot. Climate changes, no one denies it. What I will never believe in is that Democrat politicians can magically control the climate by implementing outlandish contol over the People.

@Daryl The expert in the other tread clearly showed you that global warming alarmists were not the majority. The hoax is what is real. Until the globalist elites live the way they want the minions to live, I won't buy into their fear mongering. I will take my chances on any type of climate change in my life time rather than submit to any part of the Green New Deal.

@Daryl Go back and read the other thread. The other guy had way more sources, a list of hundreds of scientists who do not believe in the armagadon, and he explained exactly how the 97% was not even close to being an acurate representation of all scientists. He broke it down to like 70 scientists that make up the so called "97%". Not the majority, but fake statistics. Also, I've noticed you keep siting a blog post called skepticalscience. Looks like it's run by one biased dude, hardly a fair source based on your own criteria that you used above.

@Daryl What I'm saying is the other guy proved the falsehood of your 97% consenous statistic and exactly how that statistic was falsely obtained and used as propaganda, and then he proved that global warming alarmists are far from the majority by providing you with list after list of scientists that don't agree with the computer projections and theories. Both of the claims you keep repeating. The democrats and globalists simply want to tax carbon the way they tax cigerettes, not to solve the problem, but to suck the wealth out of the public for their own power and to destroy capitalism to build a One World Order, as Soros calls it. That is the leftists' conspiracy. It matters not whether the world will get hotter or colder, Democrats can not do anything significant enough to warrant taking my freedoms away.

@Daryl Have you heard the news, no one will be indicted on Russian Collusion! Your "unbiased" sources were wrong.

@Daryl Your only source seems to be skeptical science. The graph itself says, based on respondents. Who are they and how many compared to those that didn't respond?. Like I said, it matters not whether the "science" says the world will get hotter or colder. What matters to me is the freedom the Democrats and Globalists want to take from me, when they themselves do nothing. The old do as I say, not as I do. They will remain the selfish overlords while we become the dependent serfs. I'd rather live in a hotter climate then become a serf.

@Daryl Like what? Name one freedom the Republicans are infringing on.

@Daryl I thought you would say that. The Republicans have not made a move toward abolishing abortion. The opposite has happened though. The dems have made laws to include abortion on demand up to birth and beyond. They passed it in New York.

@Daryl How is NY a deflection, it actually passed? Infanticide for any reason is now legal in NY as long as the baby did not reach the other side of the birth canal. Everything else you said are proposals and speculation. Speaking from experience, unless you have a vaginal ultrasound after 5 weeks, you cannot hear the heartbeat until 12 weeks, so it depends on which tool you use. There is no right in the Bill of Rights that states your right to kill your unborn baby shall not be infringed. Abortion is not a right, it may be legal, but slavery was once legal. The Democrats what to control speech, and gun ownership, and what you can purchase. Those are the rights the tyrants are taking away.

@Daryl
“Facts and Truths are rather Black and White”?
Global Warming - Fact or Fiction?
Climate Change - Fact or Fiction?
Throw in the phrase; “Man Made” - Fact or Fiction?
Truthfully, they can’t even really decide whether it’s warming or cooling ...
I find a lot of people in many topics claiming “Facts” when I know they are false.
I find a lot of people in many topics claiming “Truth” where, depending on circumstances, they may or may not be correct.
Transparency? That’s another buzz word signifying varying degrees of opaque ... whats “transparent” to one may not be to another ... a lousy example is that I have Cobalt Blue coffee mugs, they’re “transparent” but you can hardly see what’s in there.
Then there’s the concept of being so “transparent” that there’s an information overload to where you can’t find the relevant information ... like the state of Our Legal System ...

@Daryl
“Authors of seven Climate CONSENSUS Studies...”
“A large consensus of ‘experts’...”
SCIENCE is NOT a “consensus” item.
FACTS are also not “consensus” items.”
Therein lies your problem.
Most of what everyone points to as “proof” comes from the IPCC report which is debunked and considered trash by hundreds of Scientists.
The “consensus” itself is a made up “fact” ... I could go into how it was come up with in detail but I’ve neither the time or inclination ... but MANY of those “experts” ... aren’t and many of those ‘experts’ credited with supporting the notion ... DIDN’T.

@Daryl
Since I am and, have long been, involved in Eco Sciences both as an amateur and as a professional, let me impart the the following ... since I have seen and experienced it with my own eyes ... in my own experience ... I consider it to be a set of Empirical Facts ...

Part of the problem with “Facts” today is the willingness of Scientists and Researchers and the like to “follow the ” ... they are largely willing to “prove” the Moon is made of Green Cheese ... as long as they can get that ... or those Grants. If they’re government grants, then what is “proven” will follow the “political will”, if they are Private or Corporate Grants, then what is “proven” will follow the will of the “Grantor”.

This is actually a “fact”.

If the one (s) doing the study (s) do NOT “prove” or “tend to support” the preferred outcome, they are highly unlikely to be “awarded” or “selected” for the NEXT Grant ... their mortgage will go unpaid, their kid won’t get braces, their Cruise Line Trip will be cancelled.

It is far easier ... and much more financially stable ... to “go with the flow” ... accept the “consensus”. After all, if the “consensus” turns out to be wrong ... they’ve lots of company ... lots of people to share the blame.

This is part of the problem with the concept of accepting “Peer Reviewed” as some sort of “Good Housekeeping Seal” ... “Peer Review” in research is similar to “Pro Bono” in Law ... that is, it’s “free” and, the saying “You Get What You Pay For” applies ...
for instance, if Researcher Bob comes up with an idea ... a paper ... (maybe even a GOOD one) he can put it “up for review” however, statistically a very small percentage of the people out there who should be doing “Peer Reviews” are holding up their end, so the paper may sit in a dusty pile somewhere for years. Bob can’t afford that in today’s “Publish or Perish” world.
So ... Bob knows other people who are Researchers who are stuck in the same situation. So he calls a few of them and invites them out for a beer. Basically, he proposes that he will “Peer Review” THEIRS if THEY “Peer Review” HIS ... (note; a “Peer Review” doesn’t even actually mean the “Reviewers” agree with the idea or paper) it’s simply a matter of, if I scratch your back, you’ll scratch mine ...
A couple months later, Researcher Bob releases his “Peer Reviewed” paper and ... Voila! A “Fact” is Born ... of course, it doesn’t have to be a “real fact” especially if whatever it is seems to agree with the current popular “idea flow” ...
Researcher Bob then applies for another Grant or two ... actually he pays a person who specializes in Grant Applications and, say he wants to study Diamonds ... the Grant Writer Will then couch the application as the Study of Industrial Uses of Diamonds as Compared to the Possible Substitutes ... AND the Effect of Climate Change on Them.

What does Climate Change have to do with the topic? Nothing. However, sticking the phrase “Climate Change” into the title almost guarantees Bob will get the Grant ... at least it increases the likelihood by some 70%+ ... ask any Grant Application Writer (yes, they exist ... and usually do quite well).

@Daryl I believe that limiting speech can damage a society. Put a little sunlight on lies and deceit and folks will see it for what it is.