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Thucydides Trap IV
by Joe Kelley
9-22-2022

SIMON PARKES, CHARLIE WARD. MEL K EXCLUSIVE UPDATE
[facebook.com]

Time 44:07

Simon Parkes,
“Charlie, the document. I know that the audience have...”

Charlie Ward,
“Yes.”

Simon Parkes,
“...not had a look at it, but of course they will do that, and hope that it will be widely distributed. What you know on first reading what really sticks out was when it refers to the United States. It says the United States.”

Charlie Ward,
“States.”

Charlie Ward,
“In other words, actually looking at the individual states and saying that power should be returned.”

Charlie Ward,
“Should.”

Simon Parkes,
“Uh, and not centralized.”

Charlie Ward,
“Right.”

“Simon Parkes,
“and I think its very important.”

Mel K,
‘Yeah. Well, that was always the intention, which was you know...its always been...we are a constitutional republic. The mumbo jumbo upside down language that the...”

No Mel K, if YOU make the claim that “we” are a “constitutional republic,” then YOU are parroting the mumbo jumbo upside down language that was written into the National Constitution of 1789 as those who wrote it confessed their intention to annihilate the existing federated constitutional republics.

WHO knows this fact?

Papers of Dr. James McHenry on the Federal Convention of 1787
"Mr. E. Gerry. Does not rise to speak to the merits of the question before the Committee but to the mode.
“A distinction has been made between a federal and national government. We ought not to determine that there is this distinction for if we do, it is questionable not only whether this convention can propose an government totally different or whether Congress itself would have a right to pass such a resolution as that before the house. The commission from Massachusets empowers the deputies to proceed agreeably to the recommendation of Congress. This the foundation of the convention. If we have a right to pass this resolution we have a right to annihilate the confederation."

The treasonous frauds knew what they were doing when they confessed what they were doing in a Closed Kangaroo Court proceeding that proceeded according to the British Civil Law Model that was copied from the Roman Civil Law Model.

Keep National Interests secret from the kidnap victims enslaved by Nationalist Empire Treasonous Fraud.

This is not news.

"The members of the convention from the States, came there under different powers; the greatest number, I believe, under powers nearly the same as those of the delegates of this State. Some came to the convention under the former appointment, authorizing the meeting of delegates merely to regulate trade. Those of the Delaware were expressly instructed to agree to no system, which should take away from the States that equality of suffrage secured by the original articles of confederation. Before I arrived, a number of rules had been adopted to regulate the proceedings of the convention, by one of which was to affect the whole Union. By another, the doors were to be shut, and the whole proceedings were to be kept secret; and so far did this rule extend, that we were thereby prevented from corresponding with gentlemen in the different States upon the subjects under our discussion; a circumstance, Sir, which, I confess, I greatly regretted. I had no idea, that all the wisdom, integrity, and virtue of this State, or of the others, were centered in the convention. I wished to have corresponded freely and confidentially with eminent political characters in my own and other States; not implicitly to be dictated to by them, but to give their sentiments due weight and consideration. So extremely solicitous were they, that their proceedings should not transpire, that the members were prohibited even from taking copies of resolutions, on which the convention were deliberating, or extracts of any kind from the journals, without formally moving for, and obtaining permission, by vote of the convention for that purpose.

"But, Sir, it was to no purpose that the futility of their objections were shown, when driven from the pretense, that the equality of suffrage had been originally agreed to on principles of expediency and necessity; the representatives of the large States persisting in a declaration, that they would never agree to admit the smaller States to an equality of suffrage. In answer to this, they were informed, and informed in terms that most strong, and energetic that could possibly be used, that we never would agree to a system giving them the undue influence and superiority they proposed. That we would risk every possible consequence. That from anarchy and confusion, order might arise. That slavery was the worst that could ensue, and we considered the system proposed to be the most complete, most abject system of slavery that the wit of man ever devised, under pretense of forming a government for free States. That we never would submit tamely and servilely, to a present certain evil, in dread of a future, which might be imaginary; that we were sensible the eyes of our country and the world were upon us.

“That we would not labor under the imputation of being unwilling to form a strong and energetic federal government; but we would publish the system which we approved, and also that which we opposed, and leave it to our country, and the world at large, to judge between us, who best understood the rights of free men and free States, and who best advocated them; and to the same tribunal we could submit, who ought to be answerable for all the consequences, which might arise to the Union from the convention breaking up, without proposing any system to their constituents. During this debate we were threatened, that if we did not agree to the system propose, we never should have an opportunity of meeting in convention to deliberate on another, and this was frequently urged. In answer, we called upon them to show what was to prevent it, and from what quarter was our danger to proceed; was it from a foreign enemy? Our distance from Europe, and the political situation of that country, left us but little to fear. Was there any ambitious State or States, who, in violation of every sacred obligation, was preparing to enslave the other States, and raise itself to consequence on the ruin of the others? Or was there any such ambitious individual? We did not apprehend it to be the case; but suppose it to be true, it rendered it the more necessary, that we should sacredly guard against a system, which might enable all those ambitious views to be carried into effect, even under the sanction of the constitution and government. In fine, Sir, all those threats were treated with contempt, and they were told, that we apprehended but one reason to prevent the States meeting again in convention; that, when they discovered the part this convention had acted, and how much its members were abusing the trust reposed in them, the States would never trust another convention."
Secret Proceedings
of the
NATIONAL Con Con, Con Job
[archive.org]

Victims of this special interest version of treasonous fraud WILL NOT even look at the shit even if their noses are pressed tightly in the pile and the shit packs into their enfeebled infantile brains, because they are told not to break the spell that gives them total freedom from all moral duties bound into their souls while treasonous frauds prey like parasites upon humanity.

Forgive them, they refused to know.

WHO does not know?

Simon Parkes appears to suggest that he knows the difference between a morally justifiable federation of constitutional republics and an immoral unjustifiable ongoing fraud that annihilates all thoughts of morality in favor of obstruction of justice with contempt for the law of the land.

Mel K,
“...and go back to where DC was really just supposed to be…”

According to WHO?

Here are the words of Richard Henry Lee, and this is the guy who started the common law defiance against the Criminal British Nationalist Monopoly Warmongers, and this guy was also the Sixth President presiding over the Federal government when it was actually federal by any true sense of the word.

"A federal, or rather a national city, ten miles square, containing a hundred square miles, is about four times as large as London; and for forts, magazines, arsenals, dock yards, and other needful buildings, congress may possess a number of places or towns in each state. It is true, congress cannot have them unless the state legislatures cede them; but when once ceded, they never can be recovered. And though the general temper of the legislatures may be averse to such cessions, yet many opportunities and advantages may be taken of particular times and circumstances of complying assemblies, and of particular parties, to obtain them. It is not improbable, that some considerable towns or places, in some intemperate moments, or influenced by anti-republican principles, will petition to be ceded for the purposes mentioned in the provision. There are men, and even towns, in the best republics, which are often fond of withdrawing from the government of them, whenever occasion shall present. The case is still stronger. If the provision in question holds out allurements to attempt to withdraw, the people of a state must ever be subject to state as well as federal taxes; but the federal city and places will be subject only to the latter, and to them by no fixed proportion. Nor of the taxes raised in them, can the separate states demand any account of congress. These doors opened for withdrawing from the state governments entirely, may, on other accounts, be very alluring and pleasing to those anti-republican men who prefer a place under the wings of courts.

"If a federal town be necessary for the residence
of congress and the public officers, it ought to be a small one, and the government of it fixed on republican and common law principles, carefully enumerated and established by the constitution. it is true, the states, when they shall cede places, may stipulate that the laws and government of congress in them shall always be formed on such principles. But it is easy to discern, that the stipulations of a state, or of the inhabitants of the place ceded, can be of but little avail against the power and gradual encroachments of the union. The principles ought to be established by the federal constitution, to which all states are parties; but in no event can there be any need of so large a city and places for forts, etc. , totally exempted from the laws and jurisdictions of the state governments.

"If I understand the constitution, the laws of congress, constitutionally made, will have complete and supreme jurisdiction to all federal purposes, on every inch of ground in the United States, and exclusive jurisdiction on the high seas, and this by the highest authority, the consent of the people. Suppose ten acres at West Point shall be used as a fort of the union, or a sea port town as a dockyard: the laws of the union, in those places, respecting the navy, forces of the union, and all federal objects, must prevail, be noticed by all judges and officers, and executed accordingly. And I can discern no one reason for excluding from these places, the operation of state laws, as to mere state purpose for instance, for the collection of state taxes in them; recovering debts; deciding questions of property arising within them on state laws; punishing, by state laws, theft, trespasses, and offenses committed in them by mere citizens against the state law.

"The city, and all the places in which the union shall have this exclusive jurisdiction, will be immediately under one entire government, that of the federal head, and be no part of any state, and consequently no part of the United States. The inhabitants of the federal city and places, will be as much exempt from the laws and control of the state governments, as the people of Canada or Nova Scotia will be. Neither the laws of the states respecting taxes, the militia, crimes of property, will extend to them; nor is there a single stipulation in the constitution, that the inhabitants of this city, and these places, shall be governed by laws founded on principles of freedom. All questions, civil and criminal, arising on the laws of these places, which must be the laws of congress, must be decided in the federal courts; and also, all questions that may, by such judicial fictions as these courts may consider reasonable, be supposed to arise within this city, or any of these places, may be brought into these courts. By a very common legal fiction, any personal contract may be supposed to have been made in any place. A contract made in Georgia may be supposed to have been made in the federal city; the courts will admit the fiction. . . . "

Proof of concept betrays the fraudulent statements of the original frauds as well as their modern-day parrots WHO parrot the original frauds' fraudulent products that trace back to each of them.

The number of opponents to Nationalization, Monopolization, Cartelization, Consolidation, and Centralization of Power and Profit into the hands of an all-assuming, and all-consuming criminal authority, were counted on the official record during RAT-ification by a BARE Majority Ruling over their Criminal Coup and thereby ruling over common sense, common law, morality, and the law of the land.

Majority Rule, and The Angry Mob, all rolled up into the same authors authorizing the warning dictated to the victims of their impending victimization by those same people. Create the Problem so as to afford the Final Solution.

Fear the Majority Rule Angry Mob, vote for me, "we" these people ARE the Majority Rule Angry Mob.

Pay US, because you are made to fear US.

Those in opposition to the National Constitution moving step by step fraudulently annihilating the federated constitutional republics under the common law KNEW the news that is now news to WHO?

WHO went to Publik Skewl to have their soul removed and replaced with a foreign occupying criminal counterfeiter?

Exporting moral duty 101.

Free at last!

I found the document titled: Declaration of the People of the United States for Global Peace and Prosperity
[facebook.com]

That is confessed to being a Nationalist (therefore criminal) document.

How?

Clue one:

“...necessary for one People to…”

Clue two:

“...we the people have been usurped of our legal right to exercise and see through our basic right to vote, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good and proper representation.”

One people monopolized, consolidated, and blindingly obedient to the one and only power given to them by their kidnappers, as this cartel is constituted to vote WITCH EVIL leader LEADS.

Greater Evil A or Lesser Evil B, your fraudulent choice, don't forget to bring your voting fee, don’t be late, and do not question the man behind the curtain.

It is the classic bone marrow core of fraud, the lesser of two evils fallacy dictated by the kidnappers to the victims of kidnapping, where the kidnappers just so happen to reserve all persecutoral powers for their cult members in black robes, and remove all “voting” done by private prosecutors, independent grand jurors, and independent trial jurors in a County Criminal Court of Law where one of the cult members are invited to their criminal trial by jury as the named defendant expediently processed by the people that have not yet sold their soul, so they have retained the independent individual power to conscientiously object to paying cult members all they demand as they move unencumbered from innocent victim to innocent victim with impunity, special immunity, and freedom from all the duties of moral conscience anywhere on earth.

Special Masters all except Brute.

Et tu Brute? What are "we" going to do with the cult member that goes against the grain?

What happened to each individual republic, where there is located an independent power to defend all other individuals in that specific republic, a republic capable of discovering, validating, and prosecuting all enemies foreign and domestic expediently according to the law of the land due process, as representatives of each independent individual member of a republic think morally and act morally, on an equal footing at law to their own independent, individual, moral capacity, so as to defend all the innocent targets from all the guilty criminals BEFORE malevolent ideas turn a human being into an inhuman criminal?

No?

No, we the immoral people can have freedom from moral duties, yes, yes, yes, we can!

Vote no on federated republics under common law.

You can vote no, and that is because you know so much as proven by your infantile brains caught in an infantile state programmed into you during your life-long brainwashing experiences.

Vote, vote, vote, bad guys, bad guys, bad guys, vote, vote, vote, bad guys, bad guys, bad guys, Warning Will Robinson, Warning Will Robinson, bad guys, bad guys, bad guys, vote, vote, vote.

Vote for bad guys?

That is your fictional house of cards, your Nation-State Legal Fiction Program?

You know from history it turns into a pogrom each time, right?

Don’t, Stop, Don’t, Stop, Don’t, Stop, the rapist tunes into the Song of that Siren urging the blood lust into the rapist, do not stop raping this victim, and do not stop moving to the next victim.

Because we can, yes, yes, yes, we can!

Why?

Are we free at last?

Trust the Nationalist Plan!

Nationalism gave us the option to be free from all the moral responsibilities associated with morality.

Ah, but, be warned, do not read the fine print published on pillars so high the kidnap victims working feverishly to meet their quotas can’t read.

Can anyone say Caligula?

My Nationalist HERO!

I have not yet read past the first page and there are more confessions written into this publication, more clues to the clueless, as to the whole truth about this Nationalist confession.

Caveat Emptor

Josf-Kelley 8 Sep 22
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I'd love to hear Sloppy Joe try to say "Thucydides"!

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