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What's the English onomatopoeia for cavemen protospeech?

A1fredo 8 Sep 29
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Well that is a term I think I have never seen before.

onomatopoeia >"The word onomatopoeia comes from the combination of two Greek words, onoma meaning "name" and poiein meaning "to make," so onomatopoeia literally means "to make a name (or sound)." That is to say that the word means nothing more than the sound it makes. The word boing, for example, is simply a sound effect, but one that is very useful in making writing or storytelling more expressive and vivid.

Many onomatopoeic words can be verbs as well as nouns. Slap, for instance, is not only the sound that is made by skin hitting skin but also the action of hitting someone (usually on the face) with an open hand. Rustle is the sound of something dry, like paper, brushing together, but it can also indicate the action of someone moving papers around and causing them to brush together, thus making this noise."

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On to the question, or rather what it invokes 🙂

It's an interesting question. Here is an insight into the origin of speech.

"Our findings render that scenario untenable. The Dawn of Speech in the form of contrasting vowel sounds is not recent, but early, about 100x earlier than AMHS speciation. Speech emergence was therefore not sudden, but extended, probably via stages now inviting both theory and investigation. Its final developments necessarily coincided with language emergence, but the duration difference, 2 orders of magnitude, makes simultaneity meaningless. Language, whenever it emerged, had to integrate into some previously developed speech system."

PRIMATE PROTO-VOWELS AND THE. EARLY EMERGENCE OF SPEECH. LOUIS-JEAN BOË

The comic book version of "caveman" speech is highly unlikely. It's representation as various grunts or cries ignores that the brain was likely height developed before the emergence of "language". In other words auditory communication of a fairly complex nature probably significantly preceded what we think of as language.

As to the question at hand I have no idea.

wolfhnd Level 8 Sep 29, 2020

Good Lord, you're worse than me...

Oh. My. God.

Part 1. I don't know the word, I'll paste the definition assuming nobody else does either.

Part 2. Let's dive deep into proto-speech for this question about a translation to be used in something not related to speech, proto or otherwise.

Part 3. Cultural references about my tangent.

Part 4. I don't know.

It's hillarious given "the correct answer" was "unga bunga."

I appreciate your reply though ha ha n_n It's nice to be around other irredeemable nerds.

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Depends on the word, ugh is fairly standard. I like grok for its double or triple meanings. On some level it tells of the understanding one gets by smashing your thumb while trying to start a nail. On another it's just a caveman's name. On another it's like integrating the Trinity or realizing you'll never understand women.

Context helps.

govols Level 8 Sep 29, 2020

I should credit Heinlein for grok.....

I appreciate it. Since it's metaphorical and it's part of a joke really, I''ll just come up with something else. We have a standard "unga unga." I'm not familiar enough with the connotations in English, so yeah, better to just come up with something else instead. Thanks, very helpful way of putting it. I never would have thought you would have such complex (relative to ours) way of approaching this. You don't underestimate them as much as we do I guess heh heh

@A1fredo

No, you're right. We have unga bunga. I just didn't think of it. I have a habit of overcomplicating.

@govols LOL Don't worry, It works in Spanish as I use one "unga" instead of "una" (Spanish preposition--I think; single, female.) It doesn't work in English, so it leads to the same result heh heh Thank you though.

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