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They carry the hate deep and it's hidden so when they finally show it to you believe them. ...
govols comments on Apr 17, 2019:
Dear God, please, help us be just...
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govols comments on Apr 17, 2019:
The best I've ever been able to come up with is that the presidency is the only elected office that represent all of the States and all of the people. Given that Senators are now elected by statewide elections as representatives of each State's citizenry (rather than the States themselves), a line in the philosophy of government sand has been crossed: the people ought to be doing the electing rather than slates of party picked electors who don't even have to cast ballots based on the will of the voters. That's how I would tackle it. Now, how to refute it? I like the argument that we don't want near totalitarian urban rule over a largely rural populace.
Statism is the most widely practiced and accepted Religion on the planet. So I find it strikingly ...
govols comments on Apr 17, 2019:
The next step will be off a cliff, I'm afraid. We're not going to give up on the idea that one day it might be we who rule.
[youtube.com] The other day someone posted that Jordan Peterson was being ridiculed for becoming ...
govols comments on Apr 17, 2019:
People who dis emotion (I'm one of them; emotion is a terrible master) tend to forget that most of what we think tends to stem first from how we felt about something.
Can we please have a discussion about the Electoral College? The Communist Left is trying to ...
govols comments on Apr 17, 2019:
I'm not sure this thing will withstand an eventual challenge on Constitutional grounds. Article 1, section 10 (in part): No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation;
Why so civil??
govols comments on Apr 17, 2019:
I'm a member of a few boards. Back in the 90s, I think, MSNBC (I think) had lots of news reports and opinion columns and the "comments" section was a bunch of forums. Race in America, Social Issues, etc., and each story linked you to an appropriate forum for the topic. They shut it down. Too much drama. Well, the refugees all started opening new forums at the various hosting sites and I wound up over the years losing all of those people and was with a few new people at obscure places with few members. Over the years every other place I visit has become just a bitching bicker fest. It was bad with Bush, worse with Obama, and just a bloody $h!t show now, with Trump. I just want some occasional adult conversation trying to solve the world's problems like we used to do at the local bar before even the local bar got stupid. Adult conversation is usually civil, even when heated.
Does anybody really think that there’s going to be any evidence of collusion or obstruction in the...
govols comments on Apr 17, 2019:
I'm not sure what the report will have to say. I mean, it will cover all of the indictments, for sure. It better cover Russia and the social media campaign. It will cover every single conversation between anybody who knows Trump and anybody who knows a Russian. It will cover every time Trumps said the investigation is a fraud, etc. The left will call it a slam dunk case and scream and rage about no charges being brought against Trump or his family. Then the impeachment hearings will begin.
What do people mean when they talk about "white culture"? I am asking this from a perspective of ...
govols comments on Apr 17, 2019:
"White Culture?" Not sure such a thing exists, but millions of migrants are leaving their own cultures to look for it.
On a scale of 1 to 5, how disappointed will you be if it turns out that the Notre Dame fire wasn't ...
govols comments on Apr 16, 2019:
This is an odd question. Should we be vested in a cause we may never know to be? If it was intentional, demonstrably so, a price must be imposed. If it was an accident? If it can be shown who screwed up a price must be imposed.
What is so tiring lately is the subject of offense everyone seems to take offense so easily and take...
govols comments on Apr 16, 2019:
What pisses me off is that I really enjoy having my head twisted, and so many are scare to.
Imaginary Muslims: Part 3. Do you know any Muslims in your real life, or are they imaginary (based ...
govols comments on Apr 16, 2019:
I don't think I know any Muslims, and I don't really talk about Muslims. Islam, though, is a political system every bit as much as it is a religion. Faith is individual in nature; religions are organizational.
What is the most important personally value or moral trait in your opinion? And on the flip ...
govols comments on Apr 16, 2019:
I'm gonna go with discernment.
What do you all think of the coins? Are you saving them? Donating them? Passing them between ...
govols comments on Apr 16, 2019:
I use mine on the juke box.
In your opinion what makes something a "right"
govols comments on Apr 16, 2019:
What make something a right is nature. Children get the notion instinctively, as in "mine,"and "No! You can't make me." It takes years of socialization to beat it out of them, and then years more of education to put it back in, with the caveat that, "and he does, too."
Does having formal education cause cognitive dissonance? paying money to be told what to do and how ...
govols comments on Apr 16, 2019:
It depends on the education. By definition CD is about holding conflicting/contradictory ideas of how the world "is." It requires you, for example, trust authority yet believe the system is corrupt. If you trust an authoritative expert who shows you information that the system functions as designed it confirms trust but violates belief in systemic corruption. If your education is limited to that which is taught you wind up in a fallacy from the get go: appeal to authority. Something that strikes me is that "critical thinking" doesn't mean what it used to. It used to mean something like unbiased, open-minded evaluations of information leading to conclusions that are then held up for reflection rather than as doctrine. Now it seems to be to criticize all established notions as suspect, of even to question whether any "knower" can ever know anything more than what has been imposed upon them by society. One thing for sure about education: it changes you now and it changes who you might be. One of the issues going now is that "formal" is taken wrong. Instead of being in accordance with convention or officially recognized, many institutions are attempting to "form," or re-form, scholars into followers of the diversity faith instead of passing down the institutions of learning and knowledge to worthy and well-rounded thinkers.
If the election were held today, who would you vote for? Note: This list is not exhaustive; I ...
govols comments on Apr 12, 2019:
Under no circumstances will I vote for any of the current candidates for the Dem party nomination. The DNC (and RNC) is corrupt, and filled with people who would rather me die than vote.
Why are you guys here ?is it really what you expected it to be?
govols comments on Apr 12, 2019:
Mostly I stopped in to see if maybe a place existed that wasn't a shit-show. I don't do any of the "social media," except forums like these, and all of my old favorites have turned into war zones with no thoughtful conversation.
What do you think the earthly positive and negative ramifications would be if no human had a child ...
govols comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I think we'd all miss watching people who love them, love them. It wouldn't be good for the human soul to be without babies for a decade. I'd be okay with it, but it would really screw with most of us.
Ok, who gets this? (yes, I do!)
govols comments on Apr 11, 2019:
Ha!!!! That's pretty good.
Was Jesus human?
govols comments on Apr 11, 2019:
I shouldn't do this--it's been a while and I'll screw it up--but what the heck. Jesus was a person, in every way that we understand the term. Most of what we read begins as a fully developed man, after decades of following God. Not *being* God, but *becoming* God. Imagine God; think for just a minute on the immensity of what that means, the scale and scope of the consciousness of God. Now, put that in a human infant; put *all of that* in the wonder-filled boy; consider *all of that* in a hormone laden youth. It took a while for our divine young Lord to become *fully formed and conscious*.of Himself. Think about all of the temptations you faced growing up--becoming fully you--and imagine facing those temptations exemplarily, God's own Word, Love, and Law embodied. God came into the world just like the rest of us, not yet ready for the purpose He planned. Just like us, it took a while for Him to prove worthy of the sacrifices our higher callings demand. You have to be fully you, fully formed, to make such sacrifices willfully and willingly. Besides, it takes even God a while to piss off the powers that be enough they they actually crucify you. Jesus was as human as the rest of us and faced all of the same crap we all do and then some...and He was God.
Tell me - Is it OK to talk about socialism and communisms like synonyms? Do you think there may be a...
govols comments on Apr 10, 2019:
The thing is, both are economic models based on ownership of the means of production, and really consider each individual and his labor potential to be the means of production. Under socialism it is owned by the State; under communisim it is owned by the collection of economic units. Neither are competent managers of production.
Do you think Biden will really beat Trump if he runs? I know polls suggest that Biden would win, but...
govols comments on Apr 10, 2019:
It would be the most entertaining possible result of the primaries possible.
Want to get your feedback on two simple designs for our swag (T-shirts, mugs, etc). We're almost ...
govols comments on Apr 10, 2019:
The lower left looks like a bullet list with nothing else to accentuate. The upper right looks like a declaration, punctuated, and a reason.
North America does not have the same history with "ethnic nationalism" that Europe and the rest of ...
govols comments on Apr 10, 2019:
I have problems with civic nationalism but not with nationalism as the best way to think about anti-globalism. Civ-nat seems too friendly with globalism and open borders, the idea being that "multi-culturalism" can work within a civic framework and even given geopolitical and geocommercial expansionism. Growth is necessarily good, free-trade, population move to where the jobs are, the production moves to where people are, etc.; the civic nature of a nation will remain stable no matter what people populate its towns, cities, communities and factory/office jobs. I'm skeptical. I think Nations are populations with a mostly shared identity, and the land they control. Nationalism isn't about what best for "the country," but about maintaining that shared identity. It's an idea that requires a certain amount withdrawal and introspection regarding trade and migration. It requires far less concern about growth and GDP than about prosperity and well-being for "The People." Governments of Nations are tools "of The People" for a purpose, the preservation of the sovereign People. We're not interchangeable economic units; we're countrymen; we're A People. The economy is our tool, not our purpose. Trade is a tool, not a purpose. Nations of Peoples don't need prefixes and hyphens to sum up identity, or to derive meaning from the part they play in its prosperity and preservation. America can assimilate trickles of migrants on a near continuous basis. It can *TOLERATE* waves on occasion. At some point, though, the waves must be defended against and reduced again to a trickle--even stopped--so that the American identity can assimilate the Other. It would help if we'd drop the bloody prefixes and hyphens.
Is socialism a desirable economic system?
govols comments on Apr 10, 2019:
It isn't an economic system, but a way of life the ceases to function beyond small tribal groups of a few hundred, max. It doesn't seem to work, ever, under any cultural structure, for a "modern" economy.
The more I follow politics and the News the more I am convinced that we must rebuild our societies ...
govols comments on Apr 9, 2019:
The problem with "reboot" is that we're not smart enough to build from the ground up. I mean, if you look at the evolution of western societies, the invention of moral agency and accountability, the ideas of people having a say in their rule, governing through representatives of the general politi, the Christian notion of "in each person a spark," popular sovereignty, social contract, personal liberty, personal responsibility...All of that getting us to safe spaces and consumerist globalism...and you want to tear down the social structures and let the "elite" among us build it anew from scratch? Our civilization rests on the shoulders of giants, trembling at their burden, as our best and brightest have removed their teachings from the curricula of some our most respected institutions. Yeah..... No.
The word "tolerate" is used 4 times in the New American Standard Bible and all four times it is used...
govols comments on Apr 9, 2019:
Tolerance is what one builds slowly on small doses of poison; it's the ability to withstand higher and higher doses of poison until the minimum effective does is the lethal one.
How can i watch my wife slowly Die
govols comments on Apr 8, 2019:
How can I watch my wife slowly die? With love, anguish, and compassion, if you're really lucky. With support. With rage. With fear. With grace?
Coming from Australia, the terms "left" or "right wing" are not thrown around nearly as much as say,...
govols comments on Apr 8, 2019:
Dog. Cat. Book. Table. Me/we. Us/them. It's how we assimilate society and it assimilates us. We think in labels and without them we don't think at all. We can't ponder ideas until we have know what "ponder" and "ideas" mean. One of the reasons the anonymity of the internet makes for such crazy talk is that it's impossible to label the infinity of who you expressing them to, and we hold a notion that we can't be subjected to the horrors of someone hanging us by their own label for us...in the real world.
What I want to know is why everyone talks about what should be done but nothing ever gets done. We ...
govols comments on Apr 8, 2019:
What's happened is philosophy stopped reflecting and went into full critical mode. Yes, criticize established understanding, but quit with the theorizing on oppression. It is said sometimes that you can't make an ought from an is. Philosophy quit pondering ought and went back into exclusively is. Blacks are oppressed, women oppressed, colonized peoples oppressed...it's all about pointing it out and explaining "bad." Well, bitching about "is" doesn't lead toward innovative ideas on ought.

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