Antifa is just an idea? Really? Then Wallace immediately turns around and wants Trump to denounce white supremacists and Proud Boys like they are rioting and burning up cities? I don't agree with white supremacy but wallace was sure doing his best to bat for the left.
Really. Proud Boys is an organization with membership requirements. Antifa is just a movement - an idea. No organization. No membership. White supremacy is an idea. A very bad idea by consensus of the civilized world.
Antifa is a global movement and they have to get organised to burn, loot and murder, they have placards delivered to them at protests... they have a tag they spray everywhere, they have the same goals... just because they don't haave clubhouse doesn't mean they are not organised... these days all you need is a mobile phone and the Net.
Trump is right Biden is a demented old fool.
@Lightman
You may know more about it than I do - itās not a subject central to my interests - but Iām not aware of any verifiable evidence that antifa has any central organizing function whatsoever. I hope youāll share the evidence with me.
If you get a number of people together who have similar interests they can appear to have ādirection from aboveā when they are all just exercising their common values. And of course some individuals will take more initiative in organizing local events, but still not in any way sanctioned by some overarching authority. Iād be happy to look at evidence to the contrary.
The reason it makes a difference is that non-centrally organized movements who donāt control or even identify membership, are more susceptible to false flag actions by people who want to give them a bad name. How does anybody know who did what?
I think Trump and Biden are both demented old fools. And I think violence of either flavor is self defeating.
@BlurtReynolds If you know how the internet works you will know how it is the "central organizing function" Antifa has several goals no matter where the group is.
Have you seen the German group's sticker?
How does an "idea" manage to protest, riot, loot, burn, murder, assault, harass, paint slogans and tags etc?
Of course they re organised how do they manage to all turn up at the same locations and events in uniform? Of course they identify as an organisation why else would they call themselves Antifa?
An organisation doesn't have to be "centrally" organised you know.
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