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POLL Mexican president on Trump immigration tariffs: 'America First is a fallacy' | TheHill

Socialist Andrés Manuel López Obrador President in Over His Head in Mexico is an Idiot. Does He want us to Crush His Economy or Just Annex Northern Mexico. These Ideas are as Insane as His Comments! Do You agree?

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This is a dumb poll as it's not a black and white issue. Anybody below the age of 10 should be freely let in and not even be counted in emigration quotas (only their parents). They don't count! They bring a fresh young body, will soon be acculturated and educated, and contribute to a system where one day they will retire and get Medicare and Social security. All well and good.

But the older they are from there, the more net draw on the system they pose. Languages and skills have to be taught, intolerant attitudes of their own need to be removed (maybe they believe in Sharia law or something). As they arrive at increasingly advanced ages, certainly over 40, they have less and less to contribute, and more and more will they will drain from social services before they die. This isn't 1919, where all that didn't count (send us your homeless, tempest tossed, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free). It's 2019, and huddled masses need medicaid.

It's quite hard to migrate to Australian after the age of 50. The older you are, the less the Australians want you. Any society with a social safety net should naturally feel the same. In all these societies the people working from 25 to 65 pay for those younger, and those older. Countries like Denmark have about one wage-earner per one person not paying into the system. After you get more people not earning money than earning it, things go to hell quite rapidly.

Now, there must be cases of elderly people who want to go from one developed nation to another. Say from Denmark to Australia or the reverse. In such cases the governments need to do some math, and have the incoming person pay the difference as an emigration tax. It's probably not that much.

But somebody from the DR Congo emigrating to Denmark or the US at the age of 60, is a walking social disaster. It would not take very many such people to completely outstrip whatever the US gives the DR Congo in foreign aid.

Babou Level 7 June 2, 2019

What you suggest is both implausible and economically incorrect. Any money we put into feeding, educating and housing of youth should be spent upon the children of natural existing American citizens. Just setting up a system to do this would be insanely expensive. Your idea about these youngsters value is incorrect. The group outlined by the President requires the least investment and most reward. That being those who have desired skills, who are already raised, educated. Those are who we want legal, valuable. Your reference to the poem on the Statue of Liberty is touching but not in the least related to policy now or in the hay days of Ellis Island. These already high end skilled and educated legal immigrants are not a net sum loss but a net sum gain. Requiring nothing from the tax payers but generating goods, services and tax dollars. Your premises only apply to the illegal economic invaders who are pushing across our border. They have little to offer, require too much to become useful. In short you are wrong on every point you tried to make about immigration into the US!

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If tariffs worked Hong Kong and Singapore would be the poorest places on earth. Trump is good on some things but he doesn’t understand macro economics. Like, at all. He’s committing the classic zero sum fallacy.

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As a matter of law foreigners may only pass our borders with permission of the State Dept. and they may apply for citizenship and for temporary resident status or for refugee status at the pleasure of our laws as applied and adjudicated by our State Dept. As a soverign nation USA can close and seal our own borders any time we so choose...Mexico can do that too. Mexico can prevent central American people from entering their country anytime - but they don't want to do that.

iThink Level 9 May 31, 2019
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Why is it that no one is discussing the fact that the Central Americans crossing our southern border have to travel about 2000 miles though Mexico to get to our border. I am sure they are not walking with their kids or even alone. What exactly is Mexico doing about this, if anything. The very lease is, Mexico is turning a blind eye!!

Serg97 Level 8 May 31, 2019

This is a Russian/Chinese/ Venezuelan/Socialist play to change the Strategic and economic balance in the Western Hemisphere......did we mention the current El Presidente in Mexico is a Socialist.....

@10thGeneration I agree.

@10thGeneration bingo!

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