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I have admired much of what Jordan Peterson has had to say over the years. However, Amazing Polly brings up some valid points. Is there more to the Peterson narrative than meets the eye?

WorldSigh 9 Feb 14
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I trust Polly more than I trust Peterson. But that may be my own bias as I don't trust any authority or people with power. And since he signed up with DW he seems a bit different. Maybe it was something that was already there that's been amplified 🤷.
The only point Polly made that didn't seem too relevant was the Soviet art collection. I personally like the old propaganda art myself from all sides and nations (although I think the Nazis and Bolsheviks had the best, visually, and have prints of both), despite hating the ideology.
Either way, it just reinforces the idea of not following any particular ideology/entity/personality blindly, and to question everything and everyone. Crossbreed ideas so they don't end up Hapsburg jaw

Tom81 Level 8 Feb 16, 2023

That is a good point. Peterson did seem to change in some subtle way after DW. I can’t put my finger on any particular indicator, something just doesn’t feel the same about him.

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He is an intellectual and every intellectual thinks it's his or her duty to save the world. They always know just how to do it to.

I like Peterson and I read his proposal. It sounds more like opposition to the misanthropy of the WEF than an actual plan. That said he is a liberal at heart, he likes public healthcare. If you are a conservative you may not trust Jordan too much. What makes him unique among liberals is his general humility. You can actually convince him he is wrong with the proper evidence. Don't get me wrong I don't think that Peterson is actually as humble as he things he is. That would be asking a bit much of an intellectual. Public intellectuals like artist have to believe in themselves just to do what they do. The whole point of being a public intellectual is to get people to listen to you.

wolfhnd Level 8 Feb 14, 2023
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Sounds like Polly is tilting at windmills. She seems to be focusing on the minor statements supporting bigger ideas and infusing the minor statements with some underlying intent. I'm not buying it.

For one thing, every industrialized nation got that way by individuals convincing someone to loan them money to build something. Enough people doing that and voila! Industry. Peterson supports that happening in Africa. So do I. That is about as far away from the WEF agenda as I can imagine. Polly's connecting bank funding African development as a smoking gun toward a WEF agenda is not reasonable.

True. I’m on the fence about Peterson. He appears to be a remarkably humble and brilliant orator with a sensitivity and insight into the human condition predicated on years of training and experience. On the other hand, while Polly has come to a few questionable conclusions over the years, she generally manifests an incredible gift for spotting patterns and connecting dots that most have missed. I do wonder about Jordon’s medical problems stemming from a meat and greens diet? Going to Eastern Europe for some sort of esoteric treatment and becoming addicted to prescription drugs, has always seemed a bit dodgy to me. As far as his plan for an alternative to the WEF strategy, it will depend largely on how it is implemented. Is the World Bank an altruistic entity, or will it follow the Chinese pattern of loan then own? It could go either way? Call me jaded, I do not tend to place much faith in the kind hearted nature of global bankers.

@WorldSigh Anyone can become addicted. For those with the genetic tendency it isn't a question of if, but more like when. Not dodgy. Just the way the cards are dealt in life. I have a brother and an ex wife who are also victims of substance abuse addiction. Its pretty clear that they are going through what nature did to them. One with character is doing it well, the other with no strength of character not so well. I have the distinct impression that Dr Peterson is a disciplined individual, with more strength of character than 95% of the people I know.

As for banking, you might want to check out what women entrepreneurs have achieved in Africa with help from some banking institutions which you might call altruistic.

As for Polly, I have the impression that she has trouble with the bigger picture. Not the first time.

@TimTuolomne

I have family members who fought addiction for years. You are right, it is not an easy road. Peterson’s choice of medical facility seems odd to me, when he could have gone anywhere on earth. His daughter, her husband, and the good professor all having adverse reactions after three years on a meat and greens diet? It may well be a coincidence; however, it seems weird to me.

No doubt there have been good things done in the past with the aid of banks. Unfortunately, we are no longer in the world of George Bailey and his Savings and Loan. In our present time, I do not see global banks doing much besides posting record profits every quarter and working with globalist reset elites to rapidly consolidate power, while the rest of the world is sinking into recession and war.

Polly’s conclusions are often correct and sometimes not; I have also admired many, though by no means all, of Professor Peterson’s views. Both are articulate and intelligent but neither is a saint.
That is why I am soliciting other opinions on this thread, not to attack, rather to benefit from other perspectives.

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