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WH Press Sec REFUSES To Identify The Nashville Shooting As A Hate Crime

Krunoslav 9 Apr 5
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Does anybody else remember a case a few years ago where a man who left strips of bacon hanging on the door of a Jewish synagogue was emphatically convicted and severely punished for committing a "Hate Crime" ?

iThink Level 9 Apr 6, 2023
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This should come as no surprise to anyone - everybody knows that along with other demographic groups (leftists LOVE dividing people by demographic labels) such as women, Blacks, Hispanic, African, sub-Saharan immigrants, and illegal immigrants, Homosexuals are emphatically a "protected class"

As a group or as an individual member of those classified groups NONE are capable of being accused, charged, arraigned, punished for ANY crime - including wanton murder.

Audrey Hale did NOT commit a "hate crime" because as a member of an "oppressed class" her crime was barely a crime at all - much less a "hate crime". The people she killed were White Christians and they had it coming and her bloody act was "understandable" and excusable.

Right?

iThink Level 9 Apr 6, 2023
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A crime is a crime. Adding a qualifier like “hate” to it diminishes the crime in general by implying that murder is less heinous and not deserving of the same punishment for the same crime.

Hate is a motivation for the evil done by somebody, but the innocent victim is just as dead if the murder was committed for money or for hatred.

This deranged person murdered (1st degree murder) multiple innocent people and should receive the same punishment for each person he/she/it murdered as a white man would receive for each person he murdered (1st degree murder).

The implication in the video off course is that they haven no problem charging everyone else for hate crime, but this group.

@Krunoslav Understood. My point is that “hate crimes” are NEVER any different from crimes. The Left makes this stuff up as weapons for their exclusive purposes.

Either it is a legitimate thing that should be applied uniformly based upon specific, agreed upon criteria (1st degree murder: willfulness, deliberation, and premeditation) or it shouldn’t be accepted as legitimate at all.

They call it a “hate crime” (bias/prejudice crime) because it presupposes a motive based upon what group the victim belongs to. The bias/prejudice, in the case of labeling a crime as a “hate crime” is on the part of those making the assumption and an attempt to force their bias/prejudice on others.

I don’t argue that we should demand that it be applied only to leftist causes, rather that it should be used uniformly or not at all. (Preferably not at all). Since they have used it regularly for their purposes, it should be used against them also. When the victim is a member of a Muslim or other non-Christian religion, they are quick to use the term, so it should be used if the victim is a Christian.

@Daveclark5 "Understood. My point is that “hate crimes” are NEVER any different from crimes."

Sure they are. Crimes come in many shape and sizes. Some are personal, some are strictly business, some are moral and some are immoral.

Here, I'll give you an example or moral action that is a crime labeled "hate crime" Check the meme.

"The Left makes this stuff up as weapons for their exclusive purposes. "

Yes. Off course. They are ideologues. That was the point.

“The conservative "thinks of political policies as intended to preserve order, justice, and freedom. The ideologue, on the contrary, thinks of politics as a revolutionary instrument for transforming society and even transforming human nature. In his march toward Utopia, the ideologue is merciless.” ― Russell Kirk

“Kirk defined the ideologue as one who “thinks of politics as a revolutionary instrument for transforming society and even transforming human nature.” Unleashed during the most radical phase of the French Revolution, the spirit of ideology has metastasized over the past two centuries, wreaking horrors. Jacobinism, Anarchism, Marxism, Leninism, Fascism, Stalinism, Nazism, Maoism—all shared the fatal attraction to “political messianism”; all were “inverted religions.” Each of these ideologies preached a dogmatic approach to politics, economics, and culture. Each in its own way endeavored “to substitute secular goals and doctrines for religious goals and doctrines.” Thus did the ideologue promise “salvation in this world, hotly declaring that there exists no other realm of being.” ― Russell Kirk, The American Cause

"Either it is a legitimate thing that should be applied uniformly based upon specific, agreed upon criteria ( 1st degree murder: willfulness, deliberation, and premeditation) or it shouldn’t be accepted as legitimate at all.

I don’t argue that we should demand that it be applied only to leftist causes, rather that it should be used uniformly or not at all. (Preferably not at all). Since they have used it regularly for their purposes, it should be used against them also. "

Well, kudos to you, but Boomer truth regime does not have power here. Crazy ass lefty lunatics do. the world you speak of is long gone and buried and its not coming back anytime soon. And when it comes back it will be because people put once again lot of time and effort in building it. eventually, as these things happen, generations of their children and children of their children will take it for granted and squander it away, once again.

I suppose we are in Kali Yuga

The Kali Yuga, in Hinduism, is the fourth of the four yugas in a Yuga Cycle described as the worst and believed to be the present age, full of conflict and sin. Kali Yuga is preceded by Dvapara Yuga of the current cycle and followed by Satya Yuga of the next cycle.

Hindus believe that human civilization degenerates spiritually during the Kali Yuga.

Hinduism often symbolically represents morality (dharma) as an Indian bull. In Satya Yuga, the first stage of development, the bull has four legs, which is reduced by one in each age that follows. By the age of Kali, morality is reduced to only a quarter of that of the golden age, so that the bull of Dharma has only one leg.

Right now. Anglo-sphere , is a degenerate, weak, one legged bull that is about to keep over any day now. And I hope its soon, so we can start over.

@Krunoslav “Kali Yuga” similar to the pendulum swing reaching the end of its cycle. I have discussed many times how politics tend to operate like a pendulum with over-correction in the opposite direction.

I was in the American military after the Viêt Nam police action had decimated our reputation. I stayed in through years when I was despised because of my military commitment and it gradually moved (and finally convulsed) into the opposite direction after events like 9/11. Then, we were loved and cheered in an exaggerated fashion simply because we wore the uniform. We received unsolicited discounts on our purchases from most businesses and were treated as heroes. I was the same person with the same commitments in both those periods and was treated in opposite manners depending upon the period. After analyzing our military history, I saw this was a repeated phenomenon throughout and then I saw it happens with politics and in many parts of life. People tend to err in one direction only to overcompensate later making that the new temporary norm.

I don’t know if we’re at the end of the cycle yet or if this will be the time we go off the rails completely and destroy our society completely. History tells us that no superpower endures forever and they usually disintegrate from within. The USA is following that model perfectly. Only God knows what He has planned for us, but there’s nothing in the Bible indicating that we will have any power when He returns and puts an end to all the evil. I guess that’s a reason not to worry too much about our downfall.

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They only call it a hate crime when it targets a group they support.

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