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If you adults won't save the world, we will | Xiye Bastida

After Google deleted my original comment, let me try again. Reminds me of what Jay Leno once said: "As Miss America, my goal is to bring peace to the entire world and then to get my own apartment."

Another TED propaganda with standards so low and massage so irresponsible, I can only warn you. Its cringe inducing. More brainwashed kids with no responsibility or mature adult supervision, think their job is to "save the world".... because you know, world will end in 12 years and we will all be dead. But fear now, 15 year olds are here to save the planet.

"In the United States today, there is a pervasive tendency to treat children as adults, and adults as children. The options of children are thus steadily expanded, while those of adults are progressively constricted. The result is unruly children and childish adults." —Thomas Szasz

"Too little liberty brings stagnation and too much brings chaos."- Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970), British author, mathematician, & philosopher

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The idea to preserve the planet is emotional driven that ignores cause and effect and basic realities. its a noble ideas but unrealistic one. And driven by the idea of utopia. Any attempt to implement the utopia ideal always ends with dystopia. Hence the expression: Road to hell is paved with good intentions.

A utopia is an imagined community or society that possesses highly desirable or nearly perfect qualities for its citizens. Historic record is quite clear on the socialist utopias. In order to implement it by force one needs to do horrible things, and at the end it is far from utopia.

The word utopia was coined from Ancient Greek by Sir Thomas More in 1516. “Utopia” comes from Greek: οὐ (“not&rdquo😉 and τόπος (“place&rdquo😉 which translates as “no-place” and literally means any non-existent society, when ‘described in considerable detail’. However, in standard usage, the word's meaning has shifted and now usually describes a non-existent society that is intended to be viewed as considerably better than contemporary society.

In his original work, More carefully pointed out the similarity of utopia to eutopia, which is from Greek: εὖ (“good” or “well&rdquo😉 and τόπος (“place&rdquo😉, hence eutopia means “good place”, which ostensibly would be the more appropriate term for the concept the word “utopia” has in modern English. The pronunciations of eutopia and utopia in English are identical, which may have given rise to the change in meaning.

"Most dictionaries associate utopia with ideal commonwealths, which they characterize as an empirical realization of an ideal life in an ideal society. Utopias, especially social utopias, are associated with the idea of social justice." — Lukáš Perný

Just look at Portland and Seattle CHAZ for social justice "utopias".

As for the idea of saving the planet. Hmmm. OK. How about same basic reasoning about responsibility of homo sapiens.

"Human beings are so destructive. I sometimes think we're a kind of plague, that will scrub the earth clean. We destroy things so well that I sometimes think, maybe that's our function. Maybe every few eons, some animal comes along that kills off the rest of the world, clears the decks, and lets evolution proceed to its next phase.” ― Michael Crichton, The Lost World

I can't think of a single spices that if allowed to multiply and consume would stop on moral grounds and decide that its going to work against its own instincts and stop procreating and consuming. I can't think of a single spices on the planet earth that would do that, for us or anyone else. Take cats for example, give the food and see what happens. Do they stop to consider moral implications of their overpopulation and all the spices they put in danger by their own expansion? No, off course not. Only Humans think they are special, even if all the evidence points to the contrary. To try to overcome this uncomfortable truth, we imagine utopias where everyone can just get a long. OK, Fine. Now look into history and see what happens when people try to make utopias reality. What the expression? Road to hell is paved with good intentions. Think about that.

“You think man can destroy the planet? What intoxicating vanity. Let me tell you about our planet. Earth is four-and-a-half-billion-years-old. There's been life on it for nearly that long, 3.8 billion years. Bacteria first; later the first multicellular life, then the first complex creatures in the sea, on the land. Then finally the great sweeping ages of animals, the amphibians, the dinosaurs, at last the mammals, each one enduring millions on millions of years, great dynasties of creatures rising, flourishing, dying away -- all this against a background of continuous and violent upheaval. Mountain ranges thrust up, eroded away, cometary impacts, volcano eruptions, oceans rising and falling, whole continents moving, an endless, constant, violent change, colliding, buckling to make mountains over millions of years.

Earth has survived everything in its time. It will certainly survive us. If all the nuclear weapons in the world went off at once and all the plants, all the animals died and the earth was sizzling hot for a hundred thousand years, life would survive, somewhere: under the soil, frozen in Arctic ice. Sooner or later, when the planet was no longer inhospitable, life would spread again. The evolutionary process would begin again. It might take a few billion years for life to regain its present variety. Of course, it would be very different from what it is now, but the earth would survive our folly, only we would not. If the ozone layer gets thinner, ultraviolet radiation sears the earth, so what? Ultraviolet radiation is good for life. It's powerful energy. It promotes mutation, change. Many forms of life will thrive with more UV radiation. Many others will die out.

Do you think this is the first time that's happened? Think about oxygen. Necessary for life now, but oxygen is actually a metabolic poison, a corrosive glass, like fluorine. When oxygen was first produced as a waste product by certain plant cells some three billion years ago, it created a crisis for all other life on earth. Those plants were polluting the environment, exhaling a lethal gas. Earth eventually had an atmosphere incompatible with life. Nevertheless, life on earth took care of itself. In the thinking of the human being a hundred years is a long time. A hundred years ago we didn't have cars, airplanes, computers or vaccines. It was a whole different world, but to the earth, a hundred years is nothing. A million years is nothing. This planet lives and breathes on a much vaster scale. We can't imagine its slow and powerful rhythms, and we haven't got the humility to try. We've been residents here for the blink of an eye. If we're gone tomorrow, the earth will not miss us.”

― Michael Crichton, Jurassic Park / Congo
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Jordan Peterson Calls Out The "Pseudo-moralistic Stances" Of Activists | Q&A

As Miss America, my goal is to bring peace to the entire world and then to get my own apartment.
—Jay Leno

The prime purpose of being four is to enjoy being four — of secondary importance is to prepare for being five.
~Jim Trelease, The Read-Aloud Handbook, 1985

Krunoslav 9 Oct 20
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Personal sphere of influence (SOI).
If you want to increase yours, ask God and then follow His guidance. Also, your SIO doesn’t tend to grow when you refuse to manage what you currently have.

Yes. Personal sphere of influence (SOI) can be personal garden. One can erect temple to God they want, one can take care of plants and animals in the garden. But a 15 year old who wants to change the world, but can't even care for their own garden should be quite. In the past that idea would not even an option because parents would give responsibility to the kid. Now they give a kid iPad and the kid gets brainwashed by MSM (Mainstream Media).

@Krunoslav It certainly is a problem that many people refuse to raise their children. These children flounder and many fall prey to those who seek to harm them.

My wife and I tried to focus our attention first upon fulfilling our own responsibilities then teaching our children to do the same, then helping extended family, friends and neighbors, then people within the church, work and organizations with which we were associated, then those who sought help/advise from us. This group would frequently expand or even contract. As our SOI expanded we usually became more effective/efficient, providing more “bandwidth” with which to handle a larger SOI. This took time and practice. There were times when we chose to pull back from this expanding SOI as it can become unmanageable. These were times of contraction.

When we retired, we naturally enjoyed a time of contracting SOI. This isn’t a bad thing. As our energy is decreased, we are still able to have a profound influence in high priority lives and issues. Getting older isn’t all fun and games, but it beats the alternative. 😉

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Nice to see who believes in hitting children.

Apparently discipline or responsibility is something you have no clue about. I wonder why that is?

Disciplining your children is not the same as abusing them. Why is that even a thing to talk about? lol It should be obvious. But in case you missed the obvious message. Filling children head with lefty crap surely is abusive. And has no discipline attached to it. On the contrary, its about anything but responsible action.

That is why there are bunch of spoiled kids on the streets yelling dumb ass slogans for which they have no understanding off. If you concluded from my post that this is about satanism than you too, must haven been educated by bumper stickers.

Amazing.

@Krunoslav no, I didn't see any Satanism in your post. Just sharing my perspective, from my religion. I definitely think filling children's heads with lies and indoctrination is abuse, which is why I am against religious indoctrination of children, especially in public school - which is primarily Christian indoctrination in the US. Ditto with involving children in protests with signs and slogans, like you see when kids are dragged to pro-life rallies and Trump rallies.

@JacksonNought Are you saying that you are for abortion and you are anti-trump, lefty, and your religion is Satanism? Just checking to make sure I got that correct.

@Krunoslav my religion is Satanism, yes. I am for the bodily autonomy of women, allowing them to make their own medical choices - if that means abortion, that is their decision. I have left-wing leanings on many subjects, and right-wing leanings on others. I am anti corruption, nepotism, bigotry, dog-whistles, and approaching an authoritative theocracy... so yes, I am anti Trump.

@JacksonNought Ah, good to know. No wonder we don't agree on anything.

@Krunoslav sincere question, as I am honestly curious, if you live in Croatia why are you so invested in American politics?

@JacksonNought Because America has a big influence on the rest of the world. When a corrupt politician comes to power in Croatia, its just Tuesday, and not much in the media, when something happens in America, the rest of the world feels it. Its in media, its online in every social media platform, its in TV shows, in Movies, still exported mostly by America. Social Media on which many of us use for various reasons, is still mostly dominated by Silicon Valley, and American politics. And because trans-communism and the rest of the crap is all generated in America in the last 50 years and than exported to the rest of the world, it matters for others what happens in America.

The SJW crap is everywhere online and in pop culture, and not just in universities but its exported in EU, which Croatia is member of, its less so in Croatia than in some other countries, but that won't be for long if no one says, enough. So here I am. Like many others I took an active political position of not being political, most of my life. But that political position no longer exists. I cannot be non political man, I am forced to choose a side. Feminist Marxists made sure of that and continued with Marxist crapolla in Fourth-wave feminism, which began around 2012 and is associated with the use of social media. Key issues include the fight against street and workplace harassment, campus sexual assault and rape culture. Second-wave feminism, which started in the 60s and lasted through the 80s and emphasized the connection between the personal and the political; and third-wave feminism, which started in the early 90s and is best exemplified by its focus on diversity and intersectionality, queer theory, and sex-positivity. In other words, poison to society.

Just like the climate change crap was exported from America and its now in EU so people have to pay taxes for stuff that has nothing to do with Climate, but its taxed in the name of climate. That American idea, that took root in EU. UN posted on their Twitter page that Covid is caused by patriarchy and society needs to be re-arrange. Feminist / Marxist / trans communists. Thanks but not thanks.

This is not about American politics, its about Western Civilization. Same reason why this crap does not work in Saudi Arabia. Its not Western Civilization,. it does not have liberalism. Which gave birth to all the lefty destructive religions of the 20th and now 21st century.

I'm not religious myself, but I recognize that society cannot be irreligious. It can be Godless, but not irreligious. And between crazy ass toxic lefty religions and proven Christianity, I'll support Christianity even if I'm not a Christian.

Prof Sandel gave a good insight: “I would rather try to organize politics and political discourse in a way that encouraged engagement on moral and religious questions. …If we attempt to banish moral and religious discourse from politics and debates about law and rights, the danger is we’ll have a kind a vacant public square or a naked public square.

And the yearning for larger meanings in politics will find undesirable expression. Fundamentalists will rush in where liberals fear to tread. They will try to clothe the naked public square with the most narrow and intolerant moralisms.”

And while most liberals were not fanatics , the problem is that soft left always protects the hard left. Until they come for them too. And that is why now we see exactly that the most narrow and intolerant moralisms coming from extreme left.

“In the end, the actions of such liberals have the effect---again unwittingly---of continuing to cover for the goals of the extreme Left. Yet again, the soft Left is helping to conceal the hard Left, whether it realizes it or not.” ― Paul Kengor, Dupes: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century

I still don't know if you are "useful idiot" who protect the extremists of the left because you just don't get it, or are you one of them. But I don't expect us to agree on much,

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Did you notice the SJW shaking her head after Dr. Peterson gave his respectful answer, and the audience clearly agreed with him? Apparently she feels herself smarter than Dr. Peterson and the room,

Yup. Why test the arguments in the marketplace of ideas, when you can just accuse people or some newly invented phrase and pretend your are morally superior. SJW's are like a plague to civil society. Parasitic by nature. They don't create anything or do anything constructive they just virtue signal or attack people who do. That is why there are no SJW's in some countries like China and Saudi Arabia. I don't know what it worse the restriction on the freedom of speech like in those countries, or restriction of freedom of speech via political correctness like in the West.

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