Do you know what gestapo means?

@Krunoslav Yes.... do you like believing untruths?

@Lightman Suit yourself. Its unclear will the lion will eat you or not, when you stuck your head in the sand, but at least you won't see him.

@Krunoslav I'm fine... we are fine... you are being a misinformed idiot.

@Lightman So far beyond insults you have have not disproved my arguments. I don't care much about your insults since I don't respect you, but if you want to change that, provide stronger arguments.

Justify medically: lock-downs, fines, fearmongering, threats, mask mandates, involvement of some very shady methods of collecting fines on people and harassing them. Including threats coming form the officials.

If you can't justify any of that medically, and you can't, justify it economically? You can't do that either. Justify is politically if you think Australia is liberal country? You can't.

Now, if you want to continue with your petty insults, by all means, lets insult each other, but if you want to show some credibility, reply to what I said. OK, there, genius.

@Krunoslav I refuted your argument as based on lies... what don't you understand I even posted a picture of people you called gestapo delivering humanitarian aid unarmed.... you obviously don't even believe your eyes. We are not totalitarian or authoritarian and definitely not a police state.
These people are conflating the odd event and lying.... what don't you understand ?
You have been suckered in to spreading lies and misinformation.... just like the fools in the video.
Oh and if you don't like how we have handled the virus just compare our figures with the rest of the world.

@Lightman I guess all those people I saw in videos acting like gestapo are also humanitarians. And why the hell would you need humanitarian aid unless your goverment did something it was not supposed to do? Apparently you are the only one who somehow thinks that lock-downs, mask mandates, fines and harassment, censorship, MSM propaganda, and the rest of it is just perfectly normal and fine. I saw the horror like produced videos of fearmongering about virus. I've talk to my relatives in Melbourne. First hand expriance they had. But somehow you are the only guy in Australia who refuses to see it despite posting often about the dangers of CCP regime. Since you never refute any of it, keep your fantasies.

@Krunoslav What video.... why don't you post your concerns up a point at a time with some real evidence and I'll happily explain them all to you.
How many times does a person have to tell you you believe lies before you believe them?
So no opinion on Australia's covid stats eh???? avoiding the truth yet again.

@Lightman Appernetly even CCP understand the Australian situation except you. So much so they are willing to rub salt on the wound. Its because they, unlike you are not complete moron, and know a draconian country when they see it. After all its their own policies, exported.

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The True And Heartbreaking Cost Of Lockdowns

Australia was admired in 2020 by the rest of the world for its early pandemic response. However, eighteen months in and still locking down entire cities for small handfuls of cases, that admiration has turned to incredulity. The true and heartbreaking cost of Australia's lockdowns has shockingly come to light, in newly-revealed horrifying consequences for young Australians.

I could go on and on and on and on, but you can't wake up a man who is pretending to be asleep.

@Krunoslav The CCP you f.... idiot are attacking australia through trade and propaganda... only a fool believes anything they say about Australia.
Now what don't you understand about 1 at a time???????????
BTW.... reality is not internet rubbish.
I do agree that WA shutting down a whole state over 1 person is stupid but I have mentioned that before... McGowan is the problem.... he is a Labor Premier. 1 person in 1 state does not a nation make.... WA has had almost no covid at all as well... seems his over reactions has kept that state safe and virtually NORMAL
BTW Jacinda Ardern shut down all of NZ... both islands recently due to... wait for it 1 case... hypocrisy much?

@Lightman Seriously? Are you like a bot or real person? You lost the plot completely there, genius. Just curious where do you live exactly? Since all of this is not happening in Australia, where do you live? Great Coral Reef?

@Krunoslav I'm dealing with reality you are being a dick.

@Lightman You have prime minister don't you? Why is this allowed in Sydney, Melbourne? Where is the medical and legal justification? Where is the human treatment? How can army be called in if there is only one bad guy in the country. Face it Australia is not a democracy and its corrupt like France, British Isles, Canada, Germany, much of states in America etc. You cannot possibly justify it. You can only explain it. But since you seem to have been stuck in some land of milk and honey where you think Australian goverment is some kind of good guys, you are sadly mistaken. Its no better than most other governments and it takes very little to see opportunity like virus and show its true face.

Leave ideals for some other era, in the age of beurocracy they are not at really there. All these career politicians and beurocracy, are easily corrupted, and if they are not by external influence, they cannot resist the temptation to grab more power for themselves by oppressing those that can't fight back. We have seen this world over. Australia is no different. What has been different is the level of stupidity and draconian laws. And Australia is ranking pretty freaking high right now. Even CCP is mocking it. Because they know how to spot one of their own. Only you are lost in some fantasy land of idealism .

@Krunoslav 1. the PM must obey the Constitution... he is. It gives states and Premiers rights.
2.everyone is acting on medical advice... is all of it good? Probably not, but will you go against expert advice if you were a politician?
What you think of Australia is completely wrong.... like what would you actually know right even that girl in the original video doesn't live here.
The army , the ADF are helping in state emergencies on a humanitarian basis how many times do I need to tell you and the rest of the mindless fools. I even posted a picture.... UNARMED, HUMANITARIAN AID.... FOOD, LOGISTICS, VACCINATIONS, QUARANTINE DUTIES, ETC....
Don't quote the CCP to me they are lying shits....
Once more face facts and look at the stats.... no one likes lockdowns or masks.... but we do it just like people do all over the world.
Less than 1000 people dead. face the FACTS.
You are clueless and don't know what you are talking about

@Lightman what are you. A "good Australian"? Try harder. It's not convincing.

@Krunoslav I'm an australian.... I have never used the word good... but unlike you I know what I'm talking about re my country.

@Lightman So did the good Germans. By the way. Your goverment or rather goverment you seem to want to excuse is not your country, they are ruling over the people in what you might think of is country you live.

I love your insistence about humanitarian aid. So let me get this straight. The goverment, shuts down peoples ability to work, their ability to have normal social healthy life. Threatens with jail and fines anyone who dares to think for themselves, than increases pressure with more draconian laws, more propaganda and more damage to the economy, psychological well being of the people, creates massive social divisions and after all that damage... it takes the taxpayers money to employ the military to give humanitarian aid, which is payed by the people which lives it livelihood it has damaged. And you better obey or they send you to prison, fine you or harras. All this with no medial or scientific justification.

Sounds like typical goverment who breaks your legs, than extorts your money to sell you the crutches.

And you want to defend that? Yup, you really are a "good Australian."

@Krunoslav You are being a dick again.... address the facts I asked you to.
Don't misquote me... you brought up military intervention not me.... I explained what our military is doing... you continue to ignore that.
UNARMED HUMANITARIAN EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

@Lightman Why the hell do you need HUMANITARIAN EMERGENCY RESPONSE and what happens when you want to do it yourself, like go to work, and have a healthy social life. Oh wait, you can't because the military, the friendly unarmed military is helping the friendly armed police to make sure you are Good Obedient Australian. Do I have to draw you a map?

@Krunoslav Because we have a small population and boots were short on the ground... the Military always help out in emergencies and natural disasters... we are now in a pandemic in case you missed that fact...
You are talking like a raving lunatic who knows nothing and is upset about it... I'm just posting the truth. You should try it.

@Lightman "we are now in a pandemic in case you missed that fact..." That is the whole point. You are in scamdamic not pandemic. Why are you defending the gestapo is beyond me. But whatever makes you feel better.

@Krunoslav Rubbish and yes I know what pandemic means you keep forgetting about it though.... the gestapo don't deliver food parcels and medication and logistic help in a time of crises... you are simply wrong and self deluded.
You keep trying to make yourself feel better by putting me down... it won't work because I am right.

@Lightman Dude, take it down a notch and look at the videos of your friendly gestapo delivering food. But since you are right, it won't work hehehe. That's a good one.

@Krunoslav You are an idiot.... stop wasting my time.

Tell it to the Australian gestapo.

@Krunoslav There is no Australian gestapo its a lie founded on half truths and more lies. I should know I live there.

@Lightman If you say so.

@Krunoslav Oh I do... and I do... live in Australia... in fact my whole state is currently in lockdown due to a big outbreak across most of the state... except the bit I live in...

@Lightman Lockdowns do not have a medical, economic , or legal justification. They are by the way, from CCP playbook. Who started lockdowns? Especially for few infected? And how many deaths can you prove are from virus in Australia? Did informed people voted for lockdowns, military, harassment by the so called police etc.

You are funny guy. You post often about how CCP is the great threat and when the Australian corrupt goverment takes CCP playbook you pretend its propaganda. WTH?

I've seen the propaganda on the Australian news. I've seen the videos where the gestapo is making threats to the citizens that are healthy and have done nothing wrong. I've seen the people being interviewed who were harassed, recording the interaction. The goverment own statements are pretty darn clear that they are from CCP playbook. The list of more damage than good incidents is a mile long. There is no possible way you can justify lock-downs, mask mandates and gestapo harassment.

August 9, 2021- Australia has reported about 36,250 cases and 939 deaths, including a woman in her 90s whose death in Sydney was reported on Monday.

How the hell can you try to justify the measures being implemented by the Australian goverment? There is no medical, economic, or any other way except if you are trying to set up dictatorship or you are supremely incompetent. By the looks of it, Australian politicians are both.

The Geheime Staatspolizei (transl. Secret State Police), abbreviated Gestapo was the official secret police of Nazi Germany and in German-occupied Europe. During World War II, the Gestapo played a key role in the Holocaust. After the war in Europe ended, the Gestapo was declared a criminal organisation by the International Military Tribunal (IMT) at the Nuremberg trials.

Why? Because they did not "protect and serve" the people, they were the enforces of the politicians and were looking to find any excuse to have people rat on each other and enforce unlawfal mandates.

If you are so blind not fail to see the very same tendancies in police in Australia, Britian, Canada, Germany, France etc. Than you have a serious problem. I suggest you brush up on your history course.

Because you seem to have forgotten how these things go and how quickly it spirals out of the control. You can stuck your head in the sand if you like, but it won't go away on its own.

@Krunoslav Its rubbish pure and simple.... believe what you like I'll stick to reality.