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When fires started in Maui, the alarm sirens didn't go off. This surely added deaths.

The relief effort is lame.

The fires were amplified by the fact that there is much loose brush.

A few years ago, the Hawaii government tweeted that Hawaii was about to take a nuclear hit. When they found out this was false, they couldn't retract the tweet because they lost the password.

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If loose brush was a contributor, they might have learned that from the Gov'mt here in CaCaLand. All of our fires were made deadly and difficult to contain because the Gov'mt struck a deal with the tree huggers a couple of decades ago -- you vote us in and we will do whatever you ask for the "environment". Managing a forest is anti-enviro, don't yah know. So, every fire since then has been pretty much out of control.
I have hear news reports (e.g., Sky News) that many land parcels formerly farms have been allowed to go fallow -- for years. If no one goes in there and mows the weeds annually you are asking for a fast moving fire -- see any mid-Western state.

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It was nice when almost everyone was basically competent. That was when most people valued civilization. When it was understood that jungle was a dangerous place and nature was bloody tooth and claw. Naturalism is just a rejection of the values necessary to maintain civilization.

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