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First, I am not denying that CV19 is real and like any type of influenza virus whether declared a pandemic or not can be fatal.

When the WHO and world leaders lie they undermined their credibility which YOU & I are not allowed to question. Its shut up and do what your told NOW! The fiasco with masks is a perfect example of the ineptitude of the globalist and some leaders/politicians jamming the plandemic* down are throats. Mask or no masks, hand-sanitizer which few know how to use effectively, face-shields or no shields now goggles, stay basically isolated, they shut- down the economy, small businesses fold, they increase the peoples fear through disinformation through msm & social media, they allow rioters to attack & destroy democrat run cities but don't jail thenm, push to defund police and some continue tofight tooth & nail to keep their city locked down, etc. They can't get their stories straight. The lamestream lies, spreads propaganda, gas-lights the people, terrorize people, lie and spread more disinformation. Oh, CV19 does not infect rioters. Insanity. The data is important.

The Data:

Currently world wide, CV19 fatality is said to be 773,072. There is no way to weed out deaths attributed to other diseases because if a person tests positive for CV19 or the Medical Provider diagnoses them based on presenting signs & symptoms, that may look like CV19 that becomes the treating diagnosis, so if a person their death certificates will state the cause of death is CV19 even if the death was due to another fatal disease process. This inflates the fatality rate markedly, blatant disinformation for propagansa and is used to enforce authoritarian controls.

The common flu (influenza) is estimated to cause an average of up to 5 million cases worldwide annually and kills up to 650,000 people every year, according to the World Health Organization. Some years both are higher and some lower.

2009 H1N1 (swine flu) pandemic lasted for about 19 months, from January 2009 to August 2010, and was the second of two pandemics involving H1N1 influenza (swine flu) virus (the first being the 1918-1920 Spanish flu pandemic). It has been estimated that there were 201,200 respiratory deaths (range 105 700–395 600) with an additional 83,300 cardiovascular deaths (46 000–179 900) associated with 2009 pandemic influenza A H1N1 globally. 80% of the respiratory and cardiovascular deaths were in people younger than 65 years and 51% occurred in southeast Asia and Africa. Beyond its rapid global spread it had a disproportionate impact on children, young adults, and pregnant women. Interestingly scientists believe that about a third of people 65 & over seemed to have some herd immunity which was attributed to previous exposure to a weaker strain of the virus present after the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic ended. Additionally the pandemic lasted for 19 months. Influenza activity starts in late November and December, peaks in January and February, and tapers off by March and April. By the time there was any consensus was reached schools with out-breaks wetted already closed schools and because they would soon be adjourning for summer break, national school closures were just never seriously considered. While social distancing was discussed as part of a general public health strategy for managing a pandemic, no specific measures were put into place. When children returned to school after summer break the cases peaked again and schools were then managed on a case by case basis to determine school closure. No other community-based preventive measures were put into place beyond the accelerated pace of trying to produce a pandemic vaccine.

There are those that believe the global response with business shutdowns and lockdowns is most likely due to ineffective response to the Swine Flu pandemic and the response to CV19 is well meaning but others disagree and believe much of the response of State's leadership has been draconian due to inequities as to which businesses are considered essential services, recommendations such as masks which are ineffective & have flip-flopped for & against, failure of democrat city leadership to stop the rioting, burning, looting, assaults, killings or jailing rioters versus the catch & release method of crime management, supporting rioters right to behave like animals as a form of reparations and refusing federal help to get this mess under control. Rioters potentially spreading CV19 is a taboo subject and not to be talked abiut. They are refusing to really defend the citizenry and the cities they are responsible for due to ideology & politics.

Do I think as a Nation we need to institute guidelines for protecting and educating people,?Yes, but the continued shutdowns and lock-downs that started with we just want to flatten the curve was used as a bludgeon by some democrat city leaders & politicians to continue to tighten control of the people, ignoring peoples civil rights (which do come with responsibiliity) bowing to rioters demands, talk of monitoring & tracking and now ole' billy gates is pushing to have the vaccine be made mandatory without observing to see efficacy in different populations. He fails to advise the people that the annual flu shots have only about a 40% efficacy rating which is why they look at what vaccines the CDC believes will protect the most people and switch out vaccines annually if needed but sometimes they miss the mark completely. No vaccine is a 100% guarantee.

The plandemic coupled with an already divisive election year has created a schism, lite the fuse and violence is the order of the day in some cities.I encourage you to do your research, be prepared with survival essentialsgo-bags, etc. and be ready to protect your families and communities, sign-up for an absentee ballot now if possible (can't use PO Boxes), use common sense and stay out of the cities where the protests/riots are occurring, if you can leave the city get out, talk with your community leaders, police and sheriff about how best to protect the community, your family, friends and neighbors. Know the laws and be prepared to defend as needed. This is a nightmare yes but together we can do what's necessary.

Stay safe. Stay free.

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I seriously doubt the Wuhan Flu is real. It could be the regular flu for all we know.

@dd54 now that is definitely happening.

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There are masks and there are masks. The minimum level of protection is the N95 medical mask, the cloth masks most people are wearing would be just as effective if they shoved them up their asses.

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Statistics have never been the point. A frightened populace is easily controlled. Everything that has come from the so-called experts, from the start, has been designed to scare the shit out of everyone.

20,000,000 DEAD! Wait. Ok, 2,000,000 dead. Um, would you believe 200,000?

A cheap drug that works? NOOOOOO! IT’LL KILL YOU!! Don’t take it.

Death rates far lower than expected? Never mind! Quarantine healthy people. Close businesses. Close schools. (Ok, casinos can stay open)

Vaccine! Vaccine! Vaccine!!!

The only real science in play here took place in the Wuhan lab’s gene splicing experiments. After that it’s been cheap, cyclical politics and mass-manipulation.

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My question is; why are they preventing many people from using HDQ and suppressing the doctors that recommend it and believe it works?

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@dd54 What I don’t understand is how can they “ legally” restrict a medication that can affect the life and death of certain individuals?

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I stopped reading when the mask phobia cut in... honestly masks can and do make a difference.
Drs and nurses wear them for the same reason we should wear them if the circumstances prevail.
I had to wear a mask to visit my Dad in hospital with Influenza A.

Wearing a mask is not form of mind control, its a form of infection control.

It's only infection control if it really controls the infection. The clinical studies done on coronaviruses don't show consumer masks to be effective.

There is no mask phobia. There is only flu phobia which has been perpetuated by the media and the left.

@Augur2748 It's up to you to get the right mask but virtually any mask will prevent the spread of virus infected droplets in which the virus can be transmitted... stop transmission you stop the spread.

@Augur2748, @73jazzbass Oh there's mask phobia... just read some of the Conspiranut rubbish.

@Lightman No, it’s up to me NOT to wear a mask. It’s sheep like you that are the problem. Again, the science doesn’t support the mask theory. Get over it.

@73jazzbass LOL
Did I tell you to wear msk?
Do I wear mask... ? No... but if circumstances warranted it I would. Unlike the Nuts in the world.
What mask theory does medical science not support... you need to stop spreading nonsense.

@Lightman The vital difference is that doctors and nurses aren’t mandated by law to wear a mask. They choose to do so because of their profession and close proximity in a surgical situation. How am I spreading nonsense? You are implying that people are “nuts” who don’t wear them and I think you are wrong. I am simply in favor of keeping my individual rights intact. Sorry that troubles you.

@73jazzbass Do you think the virus knows or cares about that?
Personally I don't care if you catch it... 4 people with it caused the 2nd wave here in Victoria...
Btw I didn't say what you said I did at all... tsk, tsk, tsk... remember I don't wear a mask either. Even if you liked calling me names... But I would if I was in position to have to.

Yeah, Ok prole

@The_Farseer ooooh name calling.... just like the progressive left.... how will I ever cope 🙂

@Lightman by wearing your muzzle and being a good goy

@The_Farseer so I see you use words you don't understand...
The word prole is a shortened variant of proletarian, which is a Marxist term for a working-class citizen.
I am neither... even though I have worked jobs occasionlly that would be classed as being part of the proletariat.
Oh and I am goy.

@Lightman now I remember why I left this site for so many months. The pedantic replies became suffocating. Even the most basic of allegories are useless here as there seems to be a severe lack of abstract reasoning. And you would think a 1984 reference would be too obvious here, but it flew right over your head.

@The_Farseer then stop behaving badly.... and try debating facts...
I hated reading 1984, and yes I know bout it too...
"In George Orwell's dystopian 1949 novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, the proles are the working class of Oceania. The word prole is a shortened variant of proletarian, which is a Marxist term for a working-class citizen."
Like I said YOU have problems, stop wasting my time.

@Lightman don't tell me how to live my life

@The_Farseer I haven't.... stop lying

@The_Farseer, @dd54 Oh dear yes I know abut N95s thanks in Australia we are pretty well informed and educated. I'm not ill informed or wrong in what I've previously said.
I'm also not an idiot... but thanks for caring....
Nor do I lie and provide erroneous information, unlike yourself who continuously lies bout me.

@dd54 you have no facts that refute anything I've said... successfully... so stop wasting my time

@Lightman you conflate education with indoctrination. Wear a muzzle if you want to, but don't act like you're smarter than anyone else because of it. It just makes you sound like a pretentious idiot.

@The_Farseer No I don't... I also don't wear a muzzle... try being obnoxious to someone who cares about what you say and think.

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