They had to give it everything they had. Last time they stole 5 million votes and it wasn't enough.

The manipulation of these Electronic Voting Machines is a disgrace.

Yes, I'm hoping and praying that the fraud that has obviously occurred will be uncovered and, if President Trump really did win the election -- which I think he almost certainly did -- that it will be brought to light.

@KeithThroop you can wish/hope/pray in one hand and "blank" in the other and see which one fills up...if nothing has been done about the vote fraud by now it ain't gonna happen. If the Trump team / Sydney Powell had anything of substance or hard evidence it would have been presented before now.

@iThink "... if nothing has been done about the vote fraud by now it ain't gonna happen. If the Trump team / Sydney Powell had anything of substance or hard evidence it would have been presented before now."

You may be right, although I hope not. We'll see soon enough.

@KeithThroop @iThink
It's not over until we have the final results of the vote from the electoral college electors or house delegations, whichever it ends up being. Once that happens, I will accept the result as the legitimate outcome of the process, regardless of how robust or flawed the process may have been. Until then, the Trump campaign has every right to contest, and they are not under any obligation to show all their cards right now.

I believe the system needs a major security, integrity and transparency overhaul, though for now the existing flawed system must be followed until it is lawfully changed. Litigation should only improve compliance with the system as it stands, assuming the judiciary does their job properly. The existing system certainly won't be changed while the Democrats control a chamber of congress, and there is no guarantee the GOP as it is now would do anything about it, given the opportunity, either.

@DaveO276 I completely agree with this comment. I do not deny the Trump teams Rights to challenge. I am merely stating the obvious fact that all their hyperbole about "evidence" "proof" and "release the Kraken!" is phony and useless. If they had substantial and substantiated evidence they would bring it forward. All the wishful thinking isn't going to feed the proverbial baby. If "the Kraken" existed in the first place we would have seen it by now.

@KeithThroop I fear that I am right although until its officially over I suppose you et al can wish and hope to your hearts content. I am basically skeptical about such things like wishful thinking - hyperbolic speech etc. Talking the talk is of little or no value. Walk the walk...one of my favorite lines from the movie "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly"..."when you have to shoot, shoot! don't talk.

@iThink I'm not sure why you apparently feel the need to belittle or make light of my statements that I'm "hoping and praying" for justice to happen. As for doing what I can, I vote consistently; I campaign as vigorously as I can for good candidates; I take part in protests and demonstrations, fill out petitions, etc. Yes, I hope and pray, but I also actively do all I can while I trust the Lord to work in accordance with His sovereign will.

By the way, I'm currently watching an extensive press conference on Newsmax of President Trump's legal team laying out all their evidence. In an earlier comment you said, "If the Trump team / Sydney Powell had anything of substance or hard evidence it would have been presented before now." Well, in this press conference they made note of the fact that much of what they were presenting was already available to the Press but wasn't being covered, so they felt they had to try to get it out there themselves.

@KeithThroop yes I tend toward the cynical and the sarcastic often times. I saw some of that press conference. I remain unconvinced and not very hopeful because they can only present their case in a corrupted court with a corrupted judge and a corrupted political system. If things turn out as you hope ( not sure if I lack hope or if I'm realistically expecting the worst) then I will be happy to have been wrong!