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We spent the morning with the Mountain Man group (Southern Idaho Muzzle Loaders) shooting flintlock and cap & ball rifles at the annual turkey shoot. No, we didn't shoot at turkeys. Frozen turkeys and hams were the prizes. Do you know that muzzle-loaders are not classified as firearms and are not regulated by the ATF?

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They're not firearms because they're obsolete to the 2nd Amendmet. They're antiques, replicas, tributes to a bygone era of personal, community, and a broader right to own and carry a modern and effective means of defense against bullies.

Compared to government arms today, the AR-15 is a muzzle loader, and a 1911 is a flintlick pistol.

govols Level 8 Nov 20, 2021

They can take down a moose or a grizzly and have their own hunting seasons. David took down Goliath with something more primitive. We use them for fun, though. It's a good excuse to play outdoors with other adults.

"and a 1911 is a flintlick pistol."
I never knew my hand, designed by God to hold such a thing, yearned for the sweet grip of a flintlock.

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I forgot to mention that there was no social distancing, masking, or other neurotic behavior in the clubhouse. 😂

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Do you know that muzzle-loaders are not classified as firearms and are not regulated by the ATF?

Wow! I wonder how that is viewed in Canada. Australia too. If that get's the same pass as a non-firearm as it is over there.

Dunno. It was a pleasant surprise to me. Muzzle-loaders can even be shipped by regular mail, because they don't fit the definition of firearms.

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Frozen turkeys would've made good targets, though!

sqeptiq Level 10 Nov 20, 2021

Stop playing with your food?

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