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How the Government Pulls Coronavirus Relief Money Out of Thin Air
[nytimes.com]

"Once-fringe ideas in economic theory are now nearly official policy as government borrowing surges and the Federal Reserve signals it could buy unlimited debt."

WilyRickWiles 8 Apr 15
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There are only two ways to pay the debt we are/have created!!

  1. RAISE TAXES, which you know THEY won't do, because THEY would not get re-elected or retain their current job/power!!!
  2. DEVALUE the Dollar so that everything takes two or three times as much to buy!!
    THEY will spread this over a period time so it isn't so obvious, kind of like what THEY have been doing since the Nixon Administration!!!
    This will hurt everyone over time, but the truly wealthy will not be as effected, percentage wise, by the increase!!!
    If the value of the dollar is not tied to SOMETHING, we just keep devaluing it!!
    NOTE: Inflation is calculated by the amount of TIME you spend earning that item/any item!!!!!
    When Nixon was president, $4.00 an hour was considered a living wage for a family man!!!!!! I know, I was!!!
Serg97 Level 8 Apr 15, 2020

Why should I care about the effect loose money has outside of my lifetime? We're dealing with near-deflation right now despite Fed policy. So far the money printing hasn't trickled down to the real economy. The only things that have suffered from inflation are public goods like health care and college.

@WilyRickWiles You may only be concerned about YOUR LIFE TIME, but I have children, grandchildren and Great-grandchildren and they don't need to be paying my DEBT!!!!!!
Ricky, have you checked the price of an average new car??? I paid $2487.00 out the door, tax and license included, for my first NEW car!!
So, how is it inflation only affects college and health care!!

@Serg97 I'm talking about things that have inflated meaningfully in recent decades.

@WilyRickWiles Ricky, I don't believe you have a CLUE about much of anything! So, I will bid you adieu!!!!!!

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And your thoughts are?

govols Level 8 Apr 15, 2020

Good. I hope that they go further in running deficits and purchasing debt so that ordinary people are helped more directly (e.g. health care, higher education, housing, and UBI), giving them the capital they need to shape their lives, so that monetary policy serves small businesses and not just corporate consolidation, so that state governments are able to keep federalism alive without being crushed by pension obligations, and so that global challenges like climate change can be confronted.

@WilyRickWiles Ricky, more debt and deficits is the last thing the poor and middle income people need!!
They are the ones who ALWAYS pay the price in the END!!!!!

@Serg97 When the Fed buys the debt, it ceases to exist at maturity. Yes, there is a balancing act, but it's not budgetary, it's in the economy. And keep in mind that because of structural reasons, inflation is not a problem right now.

@WilyRickWiles So what does the Fed use to buy the debt, and how does it cease to exist???
Any debt has to be repaid in some way!! Dept, even if it is just a favor, has a price to be paid, that is why it is called a "DEPT"!!!!
Otherwise, it would be a GIFT or FAVOR!!!!

@Serg97 It prints money to buy the debt and returns any income to the Treasury that issued it. It's effectively an accounting gimmick for money printing.

@WilyRickWiles I believe that is what I said to start with!!! DEVALUE THE DOLLAR!!!!!!

@Serg97 Sure, there's inflation if people have more money than the goods they can buy with it. But it doesn't necessarily devalue the dollar if it is financing economic activity. And one might decide there is a balance to strike for the public good.

@WilyRickWiles

So, what does this sort of policy mean to the value of the $10k worth of small, unmaked bills in my gun safe?

@govols I think it should be fine, though any cash not being invested is going to suffer from some inflation over the course of decades.

@WilyRickWiles, but do these sorts of policies change the rate of inflation imposed upon currency stashes?

@WilyRickWiles But, per what you are saying, govols cash, should not be affected unless he plans to use it for college or medical expenses!!!

@Serg97 I'm saying those are things that have inflated in recent years--I think government should play a bigger role in providing them--let the rest of the economy pick up some of that balance.

@WilyRickWiles Who the hell do you think paid for raising my FIVE kids, and the rest of the "ECONOMY" is people like me!!! I have done my share, have you??
Now your stupidity is beginning to piss me off!!! Quit while you are ahead!!!
Everything I get now, I paid for , how about YOU????????

@Serg97 That's not what I meant, but OK!

See weimar germany for inevitable results @Serg97

@BikerPetehall70 Right ON!!!! The German debt did not just go away, as Ricky seems to think it would!!!!

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