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So I was halfway thru my psych degree when I came across the ideas of the IDW/heterodox thinkers. And so now I’m stuck because suddenly all of my paper options look to be seeped in SJW ideology. (See photo of course topics). One former class attendee said ‘the paper was great it changed my whole outlook and how I’m going to vote’ that got me very worried. So question is - what do I do with my half degree now? I got good grades so far and it’d be a shame to waste all the work thus far. And also - I’m I just heading into a profession that is more of the same? Despite what Jonathan Haidt hopes for... I wonder how many others are in the same boat. thanks for your ideas.

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Also stay on and start red pilling your class mates.

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You can change institutions with CATS, Credit arranged transfer system, I did it that way.

I don't know what to recommend other than read beyond the narrow reading list that you are given.

Oh interesting! I’ll look into that. Though not sure it’ll help at this stage of study, as the particular qualification I’m doing right now though is a sort of bridging graduate diploma which is modifying my undergraduate degree. They are pretty specific to Australia and New Zealand I believe and only at very few universities even then. Even the UK (where I’m based) don’t recognize it until I do masters level I believe (which hopefully I can do in the uk once I’ve been here long enough). Haha yes I’m trying to open my classmates up to these different ideas but it’s a distance course and the psych message boards tend to be full of (as JBP says) neurotic students. So I take JBP’s advice and mostly stay away in case they drown me with them 😅

@athenaworrier

I'm in the UK, are you on the OU? Thats how I started.🙂

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well, i would say bail. the fanciesr degree you get and your best hopes are to be a case manager or if your lucky a social worker and the pay is pretty limited while the work get heavier. and most of this type of work is run by corporations(nonprofit or otherwise) and the sjw in you may have a hard time coming to terms with corporate demands over human ones

I’m curious to understand why you think I could only be a case manager or social worker? Perhaps the studies are different in your country. Also I’m ex SJW - reformed! Haha

It is true that you kind of have to feel called to do that kind of work and it is hard not to get political in the face of a shrinking public sector and social insurance programs.

@WilyRickWiles Yeah. It’s probably a little job dependent though. I imagine if I stuck more to research and writing for example it would be more grounded in science for example. Though there is probably politics in most jobs.

@athenaworrier you could chase a nurse practitioner or physicians assistant or even doctorate, but your bookworming can easily distort your view. my experience is these types of agents in healthcare. lost in imagined theories from school, hashtagging selected words and manipulative editing reporting, from arrogance and horse blinders.

talking about it. meditating on it, fascinating on it (mental healing approaches) does nothing without proven possitive results.
you could probably groundlevel some healing through outreach orginizations in your spectrum of giving.

the second half of your degree could focus on mentorship, personal management, action planning, personal growth achievement. team building and leadership rolls.

maybe focus on logistics management with a minor. AI will need people to be able to apply logic and fallacy programming into complex computations, reasoning out through the sifters

skys the limit, good luck. psych is broken with dilliberately fouled reporting of studies and governed by the dictates of the drug index sitting on your doctors table recommended as written by Big Pharma

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So write a contrary paper

Yes I think I’ll attempt that 🙂 I wondered if I still needed time to settle into my new ideas first though. It’s this odd thing when you give up strong schools of thought and strong ideologies - to really change ones brain really needs time to break apart and reformulate itself in the expanded configuration. Judging by the past it takes my brain about 6mths-1yr to process and make the bulk of the changes needed and then there are always a few lingering things that need tweaking when faced with certain situations. (I think I’ve had about 4 of these in my lifetime now). But yes, hopefully I’ve done enough processing now that I can write convincing essays from this new perspective! Thanks.

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The reed bends but does not break.

Stay the course. Get the paper. And become another Jordan Peterson.... And beware....If You study a lifetime to become a proctologist... there is a high chance of being in the presence of assholes every day.

Good luck to ya

Haha thanks. That is very true!

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Plow through. Finish your degree and be smarter than the serpent. Maybe you'll be able to share a unique perspective, or you might practice enough restraint and self control to prove an argument you don't believe in. There is much to be learned for knowing the opposite perspective of what you believe as well as your philosophical opponents. Don't quit now, you are on the threshold of great things.

Facci Level 7 Feb 11, 2020

Thanks Facci. I think it’s because I used to be and think like that that it’s tricky going back there after learning what I now know. Also as I’m pretty new to these perspectives I almost need time for them to be full formed before I can argue for a different perspective. Thanks for the encouragement!

@athenaworrier well, the heterodox nature of the IDW is far from homogeneous. IDW is a large tent with infinite possibilities with a premium on honesty.

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Psychology attempts to address real, immediate human problems with an incomplete foundation of scientific knowledge. Sometimes the world outside academia distorts its ideas for broader political ends, whether "SJW" or IDW, or even advertising. And sometimes ideas from social science influence the culture they describe. I've found it useful to understand gender theory, for example, because it provides language to describe and discuss phenomena in the world. I'd stick with it. Try to understand, critically but in good faith, and separately engage the "SJW"/IDW discourse. Learn the history of how and why the social sciences developed and be suspicious of conspiracy theories. But also think about why you're entering this profession and what you want to accomplish in your career.

Thanks that’s really quite helpful!

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Stay the course, you never know what lies ahead...

Thanks 🙂

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