There isn't any way for it to come from Facebook. Too big money based.

i am all talk. the call to poets drew me. i have only met a few. really the place hinges to me on the persons pushing the news, not the wiseasses ridiculing rhetoric, like me. there is a mirror site called slug. i am in no way wanting to associate with something that can be killed with salt.....this is a site subdivided by fan groups. not all of us are fans, but are openminded enough to hear them out.

if you want someone to talk to, sure. if you want a pitchman for globalization....i have to decline. my interests are in s.t.e.m. and manufacturing. not politics... i like the humor here, as well as the heavy hitters that drop thoughtbombs on people here and there.

@CuriousFury That's where the money is. You can't trust anything for news right now.
There has never been a greater demand for unbiased news in world history. There has never been an easier time to get customers, There has never been an easier time to acquire content or create it.

If you create an island in the ocean of the internet where people from both philosophical roots know that they are not being lied to, you will create God.

You will create something of infinite value.

That doesn't happen very often in history.

It's happening now.

Except it's a race to good enough. Good enough allows for trillions in revenue.

IDW plus brave browser can be immaculate.

Time is the only thing of value. Time looking at ads, time clicking pop ups. Time searching for the controls to the interface of the newly designed video standard.

It's time to standardize and humanize technology.

The tools of the age are changing faster than the ability of old people to handle them wisely.

This is the paradigm shift of civilization. It's a big deal.

You only have two options going forward, create the algorithm, or be manipulated by it.

That's it. This is the functional part of that.

The right has to do what the right does best: create order out of chaos. And maintain it.

The left does what it always wants to do, push every boundary to find out if something is better.

They've been absolutely correct on more than most conservatives would like to admit over the past couple thousand years.

The right is the one who created civilization, founded America. This movement has to come from the right because it can't come from the left. It comes from companies who use rainbow logos and sit on trillions that they have to save up in case they get sued by any person or government the world over.

I don't trust you yet.

If I did, what are you asking for?

@govols Perfect answer. Totally respectable. I think I may come off as a troll, but I assure you it's the opposite.

I spent a year and a half on facebook and took notes.

I wanted to discover the root of the cultural divide and the abject break from reality that exists on the left right now.

It's phenomenal and worldwide.

I created Physix. An algorithm to predict human behavior. It's like a math, some deep implications.

It produces interesting patterns and graphs that lead to surprising conclusions that might not be obvious otherwise due to the almost always imperceptible bias that everyone has.

I want to talk seriously with the local illuminati of IDW. It doesn't HAVE to be here, it can be with another free speech centric place. But I'm here, I see the pure roots of free speech and no influence that you don't request.

And there are weapons of mass destruction. Censorship.

And it appears to be used fairly and appropriately.

All I want from you personally is to consider that the balance of world power is teetering right now.

Whoever is most influential on the internet rules the world.

I want to take real world action to influence that power in a meaningful way.

The only choice is to create something better than exists right now. You CAN'T scold someone who believes they are morally superior. You are perceived as a cretin and confirm every bias they have with every action.

It's an impossible trap.

I think I hacked it.

@govols I'm asking for help to be put in contact with anyone you might know who runs this site.

It seems very democratic here, a flat hierarchy, I'd just like to make contact to share ideas.

@Supra_Librix
You could message admin?

@govols That's where I think my enthusiasm hurt me. I posted some stuff in one of the big groups because I was looking for people with those interests, I didn't realize it was considered spamming, honest, country pumpkin mistake, but I think it turned him off.

Now I'm depending on the credibility of others who have seen I have something serious.

@Supra_Librix well you are still talking outloud, so you havent been excomunicated, yet. from what i have gathered, idw has gone through a midlife crisis, many original members aparently jumped ship around the time i discoved off of facebook. maybe search member rosters for active posts before a certain date, or check groups for original posts.

@CuriousFury They need a purpose. This is a good one.

@CuriousFury Good advice, thank you.

You have to create a safe space for money. That will give it inertia.

Where the customer can be wrong.

I've got lots of ideas about this. I'm raring to go.

@Supra_Librix the money will chase out the loose morals holding this thing together....

@CuriousFury perfectly sound criticism, not this site per se, I'm talking about creating a model for commerce.

The entire concept revolves around the ability to create value over time.

Everyone gets a timestamp.

If you are a vendor, you sell stuff.
If you are a consumer, you buy stuff.

You cheat, you lose your timestamp.

Over time the age of the timestamp will become precious, the incentive to cheat will drop, to be honest will increase.

@Supra_Librix it sounds like the social policing china is doing

@CuriousFury It's the inverse. China does it with the threat of violence.

This is volutary, but irresistable.

@CuriousFury The only option in an infinite ideological space is to be irresistable.

Survival of the friendliest.

@Supra_Librix how long until an idea like yours is converted to violence by state. our country teeters at the brink of house arrest...don't go to a public park. the grass is infected. shopping-buyer be ware but get your butt home

@CuriousFury it will be a superset of the state.

@CuriousFury It's purely ideological, the only danger from the state is what exists already.

This could precipitate cultural change that will correct the state.

The ultimate Trojan Horse, an ideological virus.

It just needs willpower to accrue enough mass.

@Supra_Librix it is a long and exhausting fight to initiate new ideology. with the dynamics as they are anyone right of far left is radical right. and anyone left of mainline breitbart is a toe sucking commie....how many referees are really willing ti convert ideology to moderation and open communication. it doesn't happen here. a few are tough enough to handle the tribal ridicule. the tribals often whimper when the script is flipped.

@CuriousFury here's the secret, we have a perfect crossover of ideology and practicality and an outlier.

The rhetoric of the left is morally superior.

But they don't have anyone in power that practices the rhetoric.

The rhetoric of the right is pragmatically superior.

But they don't have anyone in power that practices the rhetoric.

Fortunately, we have a hybridized outlier as president.

He has unmatched rhetoric and pragmatism.

The only way to attack him is rhetorically, because he's pragmatic, the rhetoric is powerless except those who believe in their equally powerless politicians.

The beauty of the math is that you don't have to define any ideology, only compare it.

It's the math of quality. Whatever you put in one end comes out better the other end.

Do that to conservative and liberal thought, and you get something that both like.

@CuriousFury I should rephrase that, you don't get necessarily what they like, but you get something that they can't disagree with.

Emphatically YES.

The fatal flaw of the internet is it's greatest power.

Immortality.

The internet is immortal.

That has deep implications.

There is no morality without mortality.

On the internet you are a username, email address, handle. Easily discarded for infinite other variations of ascii characters.

In order for value to be created, there must be the concept of loss.

I propose a timestamp as the identifier. A birthday. That introduces the dynamic of age and wisdom.

The only punishment on the web is to be censored.

That would mean a timeout for misbehavior-- your timestamp would reflect a ratio of time on the net and einsteinian time. A higher ratio would mean a better netizen.

For egregious behavior you lose your timestamp.

You become a child and are treated as such: not able to sit with the grownups on serious matters, etc.

I'd like to introduce this as a serious discussion, I have a brain full of ideas to do it.

It will change the face of fake news and ecommerce if implemented correctly.

@johnlondon I need synergy, this is a crucial turning point in history, unlike any other in scope.

I'm going to roll out my ideas, I welcome criticism and suggestions.

I'm a network engineer from the old dotcom days, I know how the web works at the most fundamental levels.

We are experiencing the greatest distrust in world history.

Trust is the only thing of real value.

What we create will be of infinite worth.

All this takes is willpower, the money will flow automatically.

I'm new here and not familiar with the hierarchy and politics, are you a member of the IDW illuminati or familiar with any of them?

@Supra_Librix what's holding you back from doing this independently? If you build it, they will come.

@Facci Perfect question, time is of the essence.

IDW has the complete infrastructure and is already immaculate: no ads, no imposed content whatsoever, a culture that already includes the concept of reward and punishment, incentives for cooperation and conviviality.

It's almost perfect, it just doesn't know how to define perfect.

I do.

@Facci I just saw you have a podcast "This is the Podcast where we talk about everything from Maine to Hawaii." I live in Maine our state sign on the way in says: Maine: The way life should be.

@Supra_Librix well give it a listen. I will value your input. And be brutally honest as I can expect you to be. I express some of my personal struggles with the medium and production. I'm just trying to start a conversation while playing one person verbal ping pong.

@Facci Time to synergize.

I'm your huckleberry.

Let's do a podcast together to discuss this.

@Facci The ideological world is flat.

Every rule of scarcity that exists in the physical world is turned on its head.

We are living through a perfect storm of ideas. Information has been democratized and made free.

Information now has no inherent value, the presentation does. You have to create a presentation that provides something unique.

That's almost impossible.

I have something unique and valuable, if we don't do it, it will be done.

The free market will provide an answer to any demand.

In this case, truth.

But there are always multiple truths, if you don't acknowledge that fact, you will be seen as having an inferior bias.

@Supra_Librix sounds good. Let me prep it, and I'll contact you to set up a time next week.