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Open Question - What YouTube channels do you regularly watch?
JacintaL comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I’m not into watching YouTube but know that it’s very big news-wise now, and since joining IDW.Community I can see how it’s very much a part of people’s lives. Obviously I’m missing something so will have to give it a go. Thanks for the recommendations.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@JacintaL Tim is hit or miss sometimes. I like listening to him but I often get his opening and first minute or so and then flip to the next one. Lately there hasn't been a lot to talk about. They're all sort of hunting around for something to talk about. IMO you could bookmark them and come back whenever something is heating up. Tim's other channel though, 'Subverse' tends to be more just straight news with a bit more breadth in subject. If that's what you're looking for, you might like that one better.
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chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
WELCOME, JacintaL and HollyLouise! We're glad you're here. Thank you for jumping right in.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
(How long do we have to keep this up? My arms are getting tired...)
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chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
WELCOME, JacintaL and HollyLouise! We're glad you're here. Thank you for jumping right in.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Welcome!! We're glad you're here!
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy BTW, you might be interested in checking out the Honey Badger's on YouTube (HoneyBadgerRadio) and the channels of the various individual badgers: Karen Straughan, Alison Tieman, Hannah Wallen, and all the others. They tend to take on news and current events on their main channel. Here is one of Karen's videos that you might find interesting. It's called "Feminism and the Disposable Male": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp8tToFv-bA Another channel you might benefit from, regardless of your position on Feminism, is Paul Elam's channel, "An Ear for Men". Paul often has a somewhat acerbic tone but he generally has interesting points to make that are worth listening to even if you disagree. You don't learn much in this world if you only talk to people you agree with, wouldn't you say?
So tell us a little about yourselves. What are your hobbies and interests?
HollyLouise comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Love outdoor activities, kayaking, bike-riding, hiking, mainly. RVing (which we do to escape the winter, and used to do to escape the heat when we lived in Tucson). A bit geeky tech-wise. Lately into cooking! Married 42 years, three kids, 9 grandkids so that tells y'all a lot. Retired now, but ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
I enjoy kayaking but that sort of ground to a halt when we had kids. I finally faced reality in about 2015 and gave my kayak and stuff away to someone who could get better use out of it... ;-( But we have a lot of fun in other ways. I like hiking but I can't get around quite as spritely as I used to, but we have recently resumed camping and that's been a lot of fun. I got to show the kids how to build a fire without matches or any sort of accelerant. The fleeting feeling of god-like power as they looked up at me with awe (and smoke) in their eyes was-- yeah, they didn't care. They did enjoy tossing leaves on top though... I suppose that was something ;-)
Open Question - What YouTube channels do you regularly watch?
JacintaL comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I’m not into watching YouTube but know that it’s very big news-wise now, and since joining IDW.Community I can see how it’s very much a part of people’s lives. Obviously I’m missing something so will have to give it a go. Thanks for the recommendations.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Definitely. I miss the old days though of just being able to turn on the TV and feeling like there were channels, people and programs that represented me and my views. Everything has gone so full-blown whacko since Hillary lost her rigged election. If you want any additional channel recommendations, let me know, I subscribe and listen to a lot of stuff. Most of it not political. One of my favorites, if you like music, is the Piano Guys channel.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy You and your "False equivalencies". It's really bothersome that they don't seem to teach much United States history in school anymore. Women were able to vote in quite a few States and territories prior to the passage of the 19th Amendment. Including Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, Idaho, Washington, California, Arizona, Kansas, Oregon, Montana, Nevada, New York, Michigan, Oklahoma, South Dakota and the territory of Alaska. Further, women were able to vote for President in a number of other States including: Illinois, Nebraska, Ohio, Indiana, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Iowa, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, Tennessee and Wisconsin. Now I grant you that many of these States and territories passed their laws in the run-up to the 19th Amendment, but as you no doubt recall at this point, many Men were ALSO still disenfranchised and could not vote. As I pointed out earlier, most MEN in the United States gained (earned) their right to vote through bloody battle-- the Civil War. Black men were still being denied the right to vote both in statute and in practice in a number of States up through 1908 or so, and certainly through vote suppression on up into the 1960's and 70's. You have my sincere apologies that actual history does not lend itself neatly to your apparent preconceived notions and narrative. Furthermore, I never said anywhere that women shouldn't vote, in fact I think I stated quite clearly that I think everybody should have equal status under the law and have the same access to opportunities. I simply disagree that one must need subscribe to a hateful, bigoted ideology in order to accommodate that. Moreover, I'll point out that you still haven't shown me any evidence or artifacts for the "Good" kind of Feminism. But I suspect I'll be waiting on that detail for some time yet to come.
Well, can somebody tell me the "essential" groups for philosophy, politics policy, sociology, and ...
chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Ummm, not sure I understand the question. Have you seen the groups list? It's a little chaotic. If they're going to stay with user-side groups in some form, they're going to have to create some sensible lanes, I think--whittle down from the number of existing groups into something manageable. ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@govols I can sympathize. What I do is subscribe to pretty much everything and then just click the 'browse all my groups' button at the top of the main page. The net result is pretty much the same thing with a bit of a pre-filter to eliminate the ones that really don't interest me.
So tell us a little about yourselves. What are your hobbies and interests?
govols comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I like roaming back roads, visiting small breweries, and exploring rabbit holes. I have a love/hate relationship with tech but I'm too lazy to build a Luddite homestead out of my little three acre patch of East Tennessee. I'm fascinated--obsessed, maybe--with how screwed up society is, why, and what...
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Are you in the JC area? I grew up in the Tri-cities myself.
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chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Welcome crsederwall, glad you're here!
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Ditto ditto... It's okay to say that here, right?
It is good to be amongst my own.
Littlerock comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Are ya'll just here to complain, or are you actively avoiding doing something about it too? I am currently listening to Foghat Live, but down low, the cat is asleep...
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
That's a good question. We'll have to discuss it among ourselves and get back to you on that. Welcome aboard!
It is good to be amongst my own.
chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Welcome, Boardwine, glad you joined your fellow curmudgeons. We could alternatively call the group the curmudgeon corner. But, Keep Out was snarkier. Where would we be without animals. I have a cat that sleeps in a corner of my desk near the monitor. He lifts his head long enough to say, 'soften...
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@chuckpo Or 'Fragile', which means 'Made of Steel' in Swahili...
It is good to be amongst my own.
chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Welcome, Boardwine, glad you joined your fellow curmudgeons. We could alternatively call the group the curmudgeon corner. But, Keep Out was snarkier. Where would we be without animals. I have a cat that sleeps in a corner of my desk near the monitor. He lifts his head long enough to say, 'soften...
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
I called it 'Keep Out' because I figured we'd get more people that way ;-)
What do we write about in Keep Out?
jwhitten comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Wow. How did you get to be a 7 already?? I better hurry up.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@chuckpo I'm jealous.
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chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I moved into level 7 just now. Only 14 years, 11 months until I hit level 8. Aren't there 8 levels of hell in Dante's Inferno?
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
There are now... (I don't think anybody will ever miss the other one-- besides, I think the Dems have it checked out on loan...)
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chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Halligan, welcome! Nevadasun, did I welcome you? This could get hard, and there's only 9 of us. Welcome to the fun group, everyone...
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
We're going to have to hire some greeters... I'll head on over to Walmart.
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chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Welcome Govols and Jenna! We're gla...errr, I mean keep out. Man, I just don't do cranky well when I'm not ranting about some social issue. I can't carry this motif. I'm buckin' it. I'm glad y'all are here, and I'm not afraid to say so!
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Go Vols!! Er, I mean Govols! (I know what Vols are ;-) Hi Jenna! Welcome!
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy You don't think NPS.GOV is accurate? I think you've misunderstood, it isn't about some disenfranchised men, it's about men who were not allowed to vote because of laws in their state. So if you're being accurate-- which was one of your objectives if I recall-- we're talking about SOME men who couldn't vote and SOME women who couldn't vote. I did not disagree nor deny that women were not universally allowed to vote. In fact, I think the comment that I originally made is that women got the vote about 20 years after the men did. And in the UK, which is also culturally relevant, both sexes achieved universal suffrage at the same time. The MEN got it only after fighting and dying in considerable numbers in two wars-- one in the United States, and one in Europe. Women marches around in fancy dresses and funny hats. Oddly, Men are required to fight and die for their rights, women get their rights for free. But that's equality for you. CORRECTION: Men are required to be WILLING to fight and die for their rights-- don't want to slip up and get caught on a technicality! ;-)
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chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Welcome, Littlerock M! Glad you're here. :)
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
We got another one?? Woohoo! Hang on, I gotta go reset the trap!
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jwhitten comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Do you ever look at 'Hackaday.com'? I just saw a cool article about mapping brain signals externally and decoding them directly into speech: https://hackaday.com/2019/04/25/scientists-create-speech-from-brain-signals/
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@chuckpo Yup-- it should have been a new thread-- not used to this group thing yet. I moved the other post to its own thread since there were no replies apart from my own.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Again with the ad-homs and insults... "Universal Male Suffrage" (getting the right to vote) was, generally granted to men after the Civil War, but not really uniformly applied throughout the US until well into the late 1800's / early 1900's. A number of States continued to disenfranchise male voters up until around 1908-- which if you'll pardon me for playing fast and loose with my numbers-- is TWENTY-TWO YEARS prior to the passage of the 19th Amendment giving Women the right to vote. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_States]. There were of course still challenges to voting here and there until well up into the 1960's and 70's-- and in some cases even up into the present day. But that has mostly been about vote suppression rather than the legality of voting at all. You might also be surprised to learn that WOMEN had the right to vote in the US long before that-- at least in some States and territories. New Jersey permitted women to vote as early as 1776, provided they were worth '50 pounds', the same standard applied to the men. In 1790 the New Jersey law was changed to read "he or she" to specifically include women [https://www.nps.gov/articles/voting-rights-in-nj-before-the-15th-and-19th.htm]. Several other States and territories had similar statutes. I'm sorry to hear that you're leaving. You should go bone up on your history some time. You might find that things were quite a bit different than you've been led to believe.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy I have repeatedly said there isn't. I do agree there is something that I call "Feminist-lite", who are people who claim to be Feminists, who don't particularly hate men or families, and like to pick and choose from the Feminist buffet. I have yet to meet many who were truly well-versed in the details, history and writings of feminists. But okay, let's posit that there IS such as thing as "Good Feminism". By their artifacts ye shall know them... I invite you to show me the love for men by Feminists. Show me the great Feminist authors and their novels extolling the virtues of men. Show me the great Feminist orators thanking men and praising them for their many contributions to society. Show me the marches and rallies with all the Feminists coming together to express their love and adoration for men. Show me the songs, sonnets and love-poems that Feminists have written for men. Show me the vast cadres of Feminists busy toiling away to improve the lives of men and ease them of their burdens. Because that's what MEN have done for women since the dawn of time. If you don't think Feminism is about hate-- then show me the LOVE. Go ahead, I'll wait. Show me *ANYTHING* that Feminists have done for men authentically and altruistically-- simply because they're men and they deserve something good, you know, something that doesn't surreptitiously benefit the Feminists themselves first and foremost.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy No, I said that Feminists resort to ad-hominems when they run out of arguments.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy No link.
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CodeBuster comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I was, and always will be totally bummed about when Battlestar Galactica was cancelled. And I mean the original, not the attempt to revive it in 1980, or the reinvisioned one. Those Cylons were cool for the time.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@chuckpo Landshark.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy No, I didn't claim it was.
What do we write about in Keep Out?
jwhitten comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Yeah, what he said. Now where are we going to find anybody insanely smart?? And if we do, how are we going to lure them into here?
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@chuckpo Do you think maybe we could set out a rat-trap with a little bit of brie cheese?
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Further, as you have pointed out, there is no specific 'leader' of the group-- and yet everybody knows who you mean when you say "Feminists"-- ergo, they *are* a group whether you like it or agree with it or not. The fact that there are multiple factions is interesting, but irrelevant. I will however partially concede your objection that they are instead a 'category'. I think the distinction is all but moot, but you can have the point :-) But, even as there is no specific 'leader' of "Feminism", there certainly are "leaders" in the sense that there are specific, known people who call themselves "Feminists", speak as "Feminists", speak on "Feminist" issues, and congress with other like-minded people they believe to be "Feminists" who likewise believe and consider themselves to be "Feminists". As there is no official hierarchical group known as "The Feminists" (though there was technically one in the past but they have since been disbanded, afaik), there is no official "registration" mechanism or badge of office and therefore anybody who stands up and *calls* themselves a "Feminist" is therefore a 'Feminist'. Moreover, they (the Feminists) make the claim that "Feminism is for everybody" and "Everybody is a Feminist" (except of course when that someone is a man and they're busy pointing out how MEN can *never* REALLY be a part of the club, wink wink)-- excepting of course when they need a "Male Ally" or for Men to move out of the way so they can do whatever. There are a number of groups out there who are specifically interested in advocating for equal rights for Men. They are collectively known as "MRA's" (Men's Rights Activists) who (quite rightly) point out that there are quite a few areas in which men are legally disenfranchised, legally under-represented, socially disenfranchised, and generally discriminated against in society. All of the same things that Feminists have been claiming for themselves all these years-- even as they claim to represent all sexes and genders and men too-- but don't actually. Feminists routinely sneer down their noses at these groups and smear and malign them whenever / wherever possible, and do their best to dox them, drag their names through the mud, get them fired from their jobs, cause them problems in their social lives, shut down their perfectly legitimate meetings and presentations, work to de-platform them in social media contexts and much more. All for the terribly horrible crime of wanting to be equally represented in society. The same *claim* that Feminists make. Feminists are hypocritical bigots. Now, here's the interesting thing-- I have a TWINGE of sympathy-- just a twinge-- for some aspects of "Feminism", insofar as it is or ever was an actual advocacy group for women-- which I seriously ...
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy We have been going back and forth about the hate inherent in Feminism. You seem (maybe?) bewildered by my characterization of it as such and apparently my efforts to explain and provide evidence otherwise has either been misinterpreted or not persuasive-- either is fine, and I'm not intending to impugn your intellect in saying that, just mulling over the course of the discussion. So let me come at it from a different tack and see if that helps. The NAACP is an organization that advocates for the issues of 'colored people'-- which was the preferred term at the time the group was founded. Their group is a fine group. It / They (I prefer 'they' ) advocates on behalf of their constituents and does its best to challenge inequities, laws that are unfair, bigotry and racism in general, and generally works to advance the issues and welfare of their members. They do a very good job of stopping where their issues end. I have no beef or complaint with that group, nor the notion that black people are worthwhile and valuable members of our society and are deserving of 'good things', just like any other member of our society. But that's not what Feminists do. They go way beyond simply advocating for their members and claim that they are representing me and my issues as a man and they most decidedly do not. Moreover, they work very hard not to simply empower themselves, but to disenfranchise men in the process. They are quite active and vocal in their condemnation of men, vilification of men-- especially regarding basic traits and attributes of men-- and they often do the same with women that they disagree with too. Feminists have a very particular agenda they are pursuing which is based on bigotry, hate and intolerance. They meet the literal definition of the word 'Hate Group' as defined by pretty much everybody, but especially as defined by the Southern Poverty Law Center, the group who has been cataloging 'Hate Groups' for decades (and extremely ironically, has been called out for years as fostering and promoting bigotry within its own organization-- and has recently outsted its founder and President over accusations of creating a long-time atmosphere of racism and bigotry within the organization)-- the irony there is delicious-- still, I'll take whatever bit of cosmic humor I can get whenever it comes my way...
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Where have I misstated / misrepresented what you said-- and where have you asked me to stop? I recall early on we had some disagreement about the word 'group', is that what you're referring to? And I very firmly believe that 'Feminism' is a hate group in the same way that the 'KKK' is a hate group-- you can call it a category if you like. I'm not bothered by the distinction. The bigotry is all the same. I'm certain there were good Nazis who didn't hate Jews. And you'll probably some Klan members who don't hate black people if you look around long enough. And I'm sure there are some people who call themselves Feminists who don't hate men. But that doesn't change the nature of the ideology. I accept your apology. What you are perhaps interpreting as whatever it is you're interpreting it as, is really more a matter of my own thoughts coalescing as I work to improve my argument. When a group of people consistently attack another group of people based on immutable characteristics, that's bigotry. That's Feminism.
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CodeBuster comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I was, and always will be totally bummed about when Battlestar Galactica was cancelled. And I mean the original, not the attempt to revive it in 1980, or the reinvisioned one. Those Cylons were cool for the time.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@chuckpo Oh yeah, she was a babe. That robot was pretty stupid though. Kind of killed a bunch of the flavor of it for me. And that infinity mirror thing... 'Dr. Theopolis'.
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CodeBuster comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I was, and always will be totally bummed about when Battlestar Galactica was cancelled. And I mean the original, not the attempt to revive it in 1980, or the reinvisioned one. Those Cylons were cool for the time.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@chuckpo I liked 'Bonanza' when I was a kid... does that count? ;-) I watched the old one sometimes, it was on just before Buck Rogers.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Did I call you a Feminist? I must have missed that part.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Do you ever look at 'Hackaday.com'? I just saw a cool article about mapping brain signals externally and decoding them directly into speech: https://hackaday.com/2019/04/25/scientists-create-speech-from-brain-signals/
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@chuckpo Hackaday is a fairly eclectic site but all around things that can be considered 'hacks' (mostly) though that tends to generally be Arduino / Raspberry Pi / other electronic stuff and electronic revival / re-purposing. Most people these days wouldn't know an Altair 8800 or an IMSAI 8080 (think 'War Games') from a hole in the ground.
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chuckpo comments on Apr 26, 2019:
Hey guys, these sound like some new thread topics, no? Good stuff. Welcome CodeBuster!
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Yup, welcome!!
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CodeBuster comments on Apr 26, 2019:
I was, and always will be totally bummed about when Battlestar Galactica was cancelled. And I mean the original, not the attempt to revive it in 1980, or the reinvisioned one. Those Cylons were cool for the time.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Actually I liked the new one better than the old one. IMO, at the time, that was one of the best shows, best-written shows, on television. My wife and I both loved them-- and she HATES sci-fi-- mostly, though with three males in the house, she's sort of gotten resigned to it ;-)
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy I take it you didn't actually read it. That's the thing about Feminist web sites, they LIE their asses off. Here's the link: Fulgam vs. the State of Alabama : https://flaglerlive.com/wp-content/uploads/Fulghamv.State_.pdf An excerpt, you can read the rest of it for yourself: ATTORNEY-GENERAL, contra.--1. The court did not err in charging the jury that a blow given in anger, and not in self-defense, is an assault and battery.--1 Bish. Cr. Law, § 409; 2 ib. § 63. But that opprobrious and abusive words given by the person assaulted, might be considered in extenuation or justification of the offense.--Revised Code, § 4198. *2 2. A married woman is as much under the protection of the law as any other member of the community. And the old doctrine of the common law, that a husband might moderately chastise his wife, was never in force in Alabama, and since the reign of Charles the Second has been exploded in England.--1 Bl. Com. 445; Schouler on Dom. Relations, 59.
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chuckpo comments on Apr 25, 2019:
HENRY BLAKE! Why? Why Henry? Why are you doing this to me. I'd finally forgotten!
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
@chuckpo I liked the one episode when she and Hawkeye were stuck somewhere together and she let her hair down a bit. I wasn't too fond of her otherwise.
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chuckpo comments on Apr 25, 2019:
HENRY BLAKE! Why? Why Henry? Why are you doing this to me. I'd finally forgotten!
jwhitten replies on Apr 26, 2019:
Oh, I take it you're a Harry Morgan fan?
Liberty vs risk equation I have often wondered if we could accurately and scientifically measure the...
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm not sure that there is a good answer that works for all parties. It seems to me that "Risk Management" equals "Regulation". But conversely, the lack of risk management seems to lead to "Socialize the Costs, Privatize the Rewards". Too much of either leads to a corrupt society and the only way ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@Pate49 Yes, but if your goal-- which I thought it is what you wanted at the outset-- is to come up with some quantifiable determinant which is correlated with 'Liberty' aka 'Risk to Freedom', you'll have to find a way to crunch those numbers or else you're still talking about subjectives-- 10 times 'emotion' equals.. ??
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy It's never been legal to beat your wife. Not in this country. I defy you to show me the statute. Put up or shut up.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy There you go with the ad-hominems again. That's what all good Feminists do when they run out of actual arguments.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy You continue to toss subtle barbs and ad-hominems towards me as if that's going to help you with your argument, it isn't. We are either concerned about equality or we are not. Equality-- Egalitarian equality- is the notion that everyone has equal standing under the law and equal access to opportunities. Creating a one-sided, faith-based ideology and claiming it's 'equal' does not an equitable gender policy make. If people who are not Feminists did not have a problem with it, then there would not be so much opposition to the ideology. Moreover, I'll note that a large number of the opponents to Feminists and Feminist ideology are other women themselves who strongly object to Feminism's deeply-rooted and fundamental insistence that women are victims and men are oppressors. Though interestingly, Feminism actually needs men. To serve as their foils and provide it's raison d'être. All that 'toxic masculinity' drives a cash cow that just never runs dry. Whenever they need a little jolt, they just grab a teat and holler out MISOGYNY-- even as they belittle and bash men at every opportunity. It's pervasive.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Feminism is a hate group because their mission is to tear down men and boys and destroy masculinity. And because they have worked to bring about this objective for nearly 150 years-- certainly for the last 50 or so. They have not been shy either in announcing that has been their goal. Further they have worked over and over to either privilege themselves in a gendered way and/or to disenfranchise men. They occasionally claim to do things which are beneficial to men, but only when it benefits themselves first and foremost. They systematically belittle and denigrate men-- for being men. The list is very long. Feminism is a hateful ideology-- a cancer which is destroying our society. And it isn't doing women much good either. Women's happiness is at an all-time low since Feminism has taken root widely.
Liberty vs risk equation I have often wondered if we could accurately and scientifically measure the...
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm not sure that there is a good answer that works for all parties. It seems to me that "Risk Management" equals "Regulation". But conversely, the lack of risk management seems to lead to "Socialize the Costs, Privatize the Rewards". Too much of either leads to a corrupt society and the only way ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@Pate49 Ah, I misunderstood where we were in the conversation. Okay, scratch that then.
Liberty vs risk equation I have often wondered if we could accurately and scientifically measure the...
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm not sure that there is a good answer that works for all parties. It seems to me that "Risk Management" equals "Regulation". But conversely, the lack of risk management seems to lead to "Socialize the Costs, Privatize the Rewards". Too much of either leads to a corrupt society and the only way ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@Pate49 In this example (of immigrants) you have (presumably) actual, quantifiable and verifiable numbers-- statistics-- you can use to compute the attendant rise in risk, if any. So, after we look at immigrants-- and I'm not saying this is your original angle, but just following the example-- should we then look at crime stats by race? Age? Gender? What is the 'risk to freedom' in, say... allowing single men in the age range of 16-28 loose and roaming the streets? How far do you want to take this concept? What if we find there is a huge correlation in death-- i.e., 'risk to freedom' in eating hamburgers-- what do we do about that? And it isn't just 'risk to freedom' really, we're also talking about rise in cost to the taxpayer-- to the individual for various programs and policies.
Liberty vs risk equation I have often wondered if we could accurately and scientifically measure the...
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm not sure that there is a good answer that works for all parties. It seems to me that "Risk Management" equals "Regulation". But conversely, the lack of risk management seems to lead to "Socialize the Costs, Privatize the Rewards". Too much of either leads to a corrupt society and the only way ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@Pate49 I responded to your earlier post before I saw this one. So let's take your example of guns and cars-- the true number of deaths per year don't matter for discussion apart from magnitude, I'll accept your numbers. So if we look at the value proposition for a gun, it's basically a dangerous item which is designed to kill, maim and intimidate, which can be used for personal safety and protection, and in some instances for hunting and acquiring food, and it can be used for nefarious purpose such as committing robbery, rape and murder-- to name a few. And we postulate that some number 'X' of the population owns one. I suppose there is one more observation, that it can be used against you if its found or taken away. Then there is the follow-on risks associated with being in or near a person who has or owns a gun, or being in a location where there is a gun. And the risk to children for finding a gun, etc. If we look at the value proposition for a car, it's also a dangerous item, but it is not intentionally designed to kill or maim, but rather to carry and convey people and cargo from one location to another. It can be used for rescue, travel, in some instances lodging, tools platform, and a whole list of other utilitarian use cases. And we postulate that some number 'Y' of the population has one. It can also be used in a nefarious way to kill or to maim and in some cases to intimidate. It can also be misused and accidents and deaths do occur. When you state that guns kill fewer people than cars you have to point out that there are orders of magnitude more cars than guns and in the hands of a far wider swath of the population. Another point to make-- which could be a nit-pick, but it's not for nothing, is that there is SOME portion of 'gun owners' who go specifically out of their way to use the gun to kill and maim people. I agree this is a criminal offense, but it is part of the overall death toll and danger from having them in society. I am certain that cars occasionally get used in a similar way, but I have to believe that the number of instances of that are severely less. Though you could potentially make an argument for people using cars while under the influence of drugs or alcohol or otherwise impaired in some manner and the harm they cause as a result. It isn't a function of the primary use but it happens often enough that you would probably be justified in bringing it up and considering it relevant. Finally, I'm sure there is some bright spot out there somewhere who could correlate all of this with various gathered statistics that would place a number on each potential concern and thus provide a quantified level of "risk" with respect to the number of cases that appear overall in any given segment of the population. But I'm not sure...
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy As I stated previously: "Gender equality is a good thing. It is a good thing when people of all races, all genders, all nationalities, all creeds have equal access to opportunities and equal representation under the law. On that point you and I are in absolute complete lockstep agreement." But again I'll note that this isn't 'Feminism' but rather it's 'Egalitarianism'. My point is and has been, why should we adopt an alleged "standard" for "Gender Equality" which has been specifically written by one gender to promote the interests of that gender and which is aimed and applied to that specific one gender? Or to put it a little more bluntly-- Feminists claim 'Patriarchy' isn't fair to women, that it's been constructed by men, for men and it's about men, and thus it does not include their interests nor fairly represent them. Do you not see the enormous double-standard which is being applied here?
Liberty vs risk equation I have often wondered if we could accurately and scientifically measure the...
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm not sure that there is a good answer that works for all parties. It seems to me that "Risk Management" equals "Regulation". But conversely, the lack of risk management seems to lead to "Socialize the Costs, Privatize the Rewards". Too much of either leads to a corrupt society and the only way ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@Pate49 It's not so easy when you start to assess the risk to a consumer for say, buying one brand of baby formula over another. How do you determine whether or not you're buying a safe product? How do you gauge that risk? How do you mitigate it? How can you be certain that the company you buy it from is being honest and forthright about the ingredients it contains, their safety for infants, and yada yada yada. And more pointedly, how does someone without the personal means or education level to do their own homework / testing able to be assured of buying a safe product?
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Women are a protected class and yet ironically they are the majority.
State-of-the-Art in Anti-Feminism Recently I was having a discussion in another group about ...
R_D_Russell comments on Apr 25, 2019:
I don’t say that I’m anti-feminist. I think it’s a mistake to say so. While a lot of third and fourth wave feminism is undoubtedly toxic and not focused on equality but supremacy and special privileges - My experience is that there are still a lot of well-meaning feminists out there. The...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@R_D_Russell But that's what FEMinism is, the supposed notion of "Gender Equality" as defined BY WOMEN, FOR WOMEN and ABOUT WOMEN.
State-of-the-Art in Anti-Feminism Recently I was having a discussion in another group about ...
R_D_Russell comments on Apr 25, 2019:
I don’t say that I’m anti-feminist. I think it’s a mistake to say so. While a lot of third and fourth wave feminism is undoubtedly toxic and not focused on equality but supremacy and special privileges - My experience is that there are still a lot of well-meaning feminists out there. The...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
So why is it that we are only allowed to define "Gender Equality" through a FEMALE lens?
A Canadian man has been charged with "Family Violence" for refusing to call his child a "he" ...
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
It is time to declare that Canada is no longer a rational state and their court system can no longer be considered competent.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@chuckpo I can relate. So incredibly relate.
I did a little experiment, to see what would happen.
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
What did you expect?
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@DuranDuran I don't think the concern is about 'racism'-- but rather it's about 'I'm-fucking-broke-as-hell-and-tired-of-my-money-going-to-pay-for-freeloaders-ism". And when we look around to see where all that cash is going, it's being funneled into welfare, healthcare, social security-- and into huge-ass multi-billion dollar industries, and lining the pockets of rich m-fk'ing politicians and going everywhere possible except into my own bank account. And everywhere you look our infrastructure is falling down, getting old, getting decrepit, roads going unpaved, schools going unfixed, entire cities practically decimated by lack of jobs and industries shipped overseas where the labor is cheaper so the globalists can sell it back to us at even higher prices and garner themselves a butt-load of cash. It's all about the Benjamins and scamming Uncle Sam-- and of course the rest of us-- while we all do our best to make ends meet and put food on the table. And then you have the Clown-World politicians trying to tell us that importing MORE poor people is going to make our lives BETTER? Nope, it's going to make THEIR lives better because those people are willing to work for LESS money while clogging up MORE public services and requiring us to pay MORE money in taxes and multi-billion dollar BAILOUTS to rich fucking banksters-- who have YET to take ONE SINGLE DAMNED PERP-WALK. It's about being MAD AS HELL and SICK AND F-KING TIRED of watching all our hard work and effort go up in smoke and getting left with nothing. IMO.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
It is time to declare that Canada is no longer a rational state and their court system can no longer be considered competent.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@An_Ominous >> "So... given that it's unlikely to work... what do you think the motive for those pushing a globalist agenda is?" Profit. But there's one big hitch in their plan that they never thought of that's going to doom their ambition and bring down their empires... What's the value of money when nobody has any?
Classical Liberalism is what got us here. Can it still get us out?
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
It may be that your initial premise is weak, or incorrect-- or in my view, incomplete. Why must it follow that liberalism / progressivism is the impetus for science and philosophical thinking?
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@govols No worries. Take your time, pick your words ;-) For my part I am really interested in where we're all headed next. What happens after we solve all the big problems and people aren't strapped into their present 'rat-race' mode of existence. The way I see it we have two futures-- but there could be others-- the first is dark and dystopian where 'big brother' (in whatever form) comes along and snares our souls, enslaves our being and we end up on the eternal chain-gang. The other is brighter and happier and formed around altruism--doing unto others before they can do it for themselves. We change the underlying premise from 'hoarding' to 'providing' and the winning strategy becomes how many people can you help or assist-- and in what ways can you make a (hopefully) positive impact in someone else's life. Both of these are extremes however, and the actual answer will likely not be anywhere near as dramatic. But things are going to change. They're changing already. We're becoming something new-- and our social order is going to change along with it. Part of the answer I think will lie in who holds the power. Will we keep the Capitalist model which I think has been the essential winning strategy for humans thus far, or will we switch over to some sort of grand socialist utopia-- and god only knows what that could look like.. Those are the areas I'm really, really wanting to explore. And I think the answers (postulates) are increasingly relevant to all of us today.
Liberty vs risk equation I have often wondered if we could accurately and scientifically measure the...
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm not sure that there is a good answer that works for all parties. It seems to me that "Risk Management" equals "Regulation". But conversely, the lack of risk management seems to lead to "Socialize the Costs, Privatize the Rewards". Too much of either leads to a corrupt society and the only way ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@Pate49 Okay, 'individual concept'-- Where is the 'mitigation assurance' part happening? And how do we know it happened? As an outside observer, let's say a potential consumer, how am I assured that the risks have been correctly identified, mitigated and/or resolved. I guess what I'm not understanding here is how / where any of this departs from my original supposition in my original comment?
Classical Liberalism is what got us here. Can it still get us out?
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
It may be that your initial premise is weak, or incorrect-- or in my view, incomplete. Why must it follow that liberalism / progressivism is the impetus for science and philosophical thinking?
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@govols LOL. You are a great conversation partner-- 90% of my "problem" has been in figuring out where / how / how much to engage with you ;-) When I responded to you I had originally written this long drawn-out post and then as I was finally getting to the part where I could make a point I looked at it and thought-- MAN, nobody in their right mind is gonna wade through all that stuff-- and crossed it out and started over. :-) That's an interesting summary, and to be honest, I had to sit and read through it several times to really reflect whether it was accurate to my own opinion. So I guess to answer your question / summary-- I think the answer is both Yes and No, and "it's complicated"-- in that I both agree generally with your summary but also think there is more nuance than that. I don't think society is anywhere as simple-minded as you fed it back to me, but at the same time there are various factions who each have their interests which must either be satisfied, dealt with, or defended against. I also agree that there are various social strata that people fall into, for whatever (various) reasons and that as far as I can recollect, all the societies I'm familiar with have had pretty much top-down structures, though there can be some variation in how that top-layer is constructed and defined. Beyond that, I believe that the majority of society is concerned with feeding, clothing and housing itself, and providing entertainment to the masses to keep them from storming the gates. And that's the problem with trying to have discussions. There are always so many secondary and tertiary points / threads that need to be made WHILE the main thread / topic is happening that it's hard to really express the full breadth of what I mean-- I just have to pick one and go with it, and then go back afterwards and try to patch up the holes afterwards. Do you know what I mean? Alright, so digging in somewhere and picking up a few of the original points-- Society does begin at the 'point of a sword'-- I definitely agree with that and want to start with that assertion. But of course there are also additional considerations such as family, friends, neighbors, cousins, aunts, uncles-- the whole bit. Nothing is ever so cut-n-dried. Human motivations are hard to really pin down in one single line, and nor do they have to make absolute sense to an outside observer-- but if you're going to have a conversation, you have to pick something and go with it. And when I say the 'point of the sword', I don't necessarily mean one specific dude, though it has often worked out that way, from what I've observed. But rather that everybody is looking out for their own interest and when push comes to shove it boils down to "might makes right"-- and the law of the jungle prevails. We...
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
It is time to declare that Canada is no longer a rational state and their court system can no longer be considered competent.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@chuckpo AOC is a childish, vapid, dangerously naive, egomaniacal, narcissistic bitch-- ask me again and I'll tell you how I really feel!-- that sucking sound you hear is from the vacuum between her ears-- when you look into her eyes you can literally see forever... She's a freakin' moron, but-- and here's where I'm about to lose the Internet again-- she isn't entirely wrong. However, that's a qualified statement. The last part, I mean. The rest of it is simple fact, it's all on the record, go look it up ;-) Please don't misunderstand me, she's off the rails far more often than she is on them. But once in awhile, quite probably by accident-- she's right. AOC is fascinating to watch. She's like a slow-motion train wreck happening right in front of your eyes. And for all her mean-girl bitchiness, the truth is she doesn't really seem like she's the mean-girl type, she's just extremely out of her element, getting fed her lines and talking points and putting on a huge overblown fake persona and basically pissing everybody off-- and it's all an act. I mean it is *seriously* an act. She is a puppet on somebody's string. And every now and then she slips up a little and you can get a glimpse of her through the cracks. She's all about puppies and rainbows and singalongs-- the whole bit. She's basically Rainbow Bright personified. Her world is a great big crayon picture with stick figure people holding stick figure hands and living in their perfect little stick figure world. And I think that's about the extent of it for her. Obviously she's a real person and has real, lived experiences and has more than just two dimensions-- I don't mean to totally diminish her agency-- and she will undoubtedly in time lose her little-girl naivete and probably morph into something far more dangerous with big gnashy teeth and flashing eyes-- sort of like Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters... which reminds me, you might want to buy some stock in a company that sells spackling compound... But what I'm getting at is there is a plurality about her if you really watch her and listen to her speak in a variety of settings. It's almost like there's one version of her who is being run through her paces and fed all her lines, and another version of her who wishes it was all really real. Go look at her wine-fueled rant video, it's really telling. So anyway-- when I say she isn't wrong, I mean the times she goes off script, gets kind of a wistful look in her eyes and ad-libs in some of her own thoughts, as tiny and unformed as they generally are, where she talks about principles and how people should be better and the world shouldn't be such a bad place-- which all end up seeming ironic and throw-away lines when they happen, given the rest of the persona that she's projecting. There is...
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy >> "Meninsm is ridiculous. But who knows, a disease could wipe out society as we know it and men could be at severe disadvantage and then need it. Such -isms rise out of need. There's no current need, though is venture to say we as a society need to be advocating better for our young boys." It's these two statements right here that illustrate my points extremely well. When I say MENinism, you bristle. How could THAT have anything to do with GENDER EQUALITY, you wonder? Because it's about what MEN think and equality from THEIR perspective. And I would simply point out that you're advocating the polar opposite-- FEMinism-- and telling me I should be okay with that because--- vagina? Why, do you suppose, a system BY WOMEN, FOR WOMEN, ABOUT WOMEN, would be fair and equanimeous for MEN? And regarding need, I think you need to get out more. This is an old article from the Atlantic to get you started. This is a serious subject and one that is being swept under the rug all around the world. Feel free to Google it for many, many more references. The Atlantic: "The War Against Boys" https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/05/the-war-against-boys/304659/
Nobody wants to work on themselves.
waynus comments on Apr 23, 2019:
There seems to be a decided lack of willingness to accept the world for what it is and instead of trying to make it better, trying to blame someone else. The big surprise to so many, is that not everyone agrees with them. People have lost sight of the need to work with those we do not agree with ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@waynus Yes, that's what I figured you meant. The compulsion angle though is interesting, the idea of a legislated morality. And yet I think you could argue that we have that already to a large degree, it's just not as tilted toward conservative family values as it once was-- but rather to more hedonistic principles, IMO. Libertarian "values" would be okay with me, because then people could more or less pick the lifestyle they wanted, but in the end it probably still wouldn't work for large concentrated populations because of the magnified "me me me" factor. Which I would argue is part of what got us to where we are today around the world. The incessant chipping away, brick by brick, of the conservative foundation-- at least in the United States-- which was laid down by the framers of our country. We've gone from "citizens and service" to wild all night parties where everything goes and nobody need care in the morning-- excepting of course, the clean-up crew. And men. Everything is built on the backs of men who have to do all the dirty work in society.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
It is time to declare that Canada is no longer a rational state and their court system can no longer be considered competent.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@chuckpo Hell no. We have the wackiest courts north of the Rio Grande! Well, except for Canada of course ;-) Rise of the KKK -- I think it already has-- however White Men are the new Black Men these days. Ability to identify with the left-- I agree with you there also. I have never considered myself entirely left-wing, don't even mean far-left-wing. But I've always thought I was more or less a centrist. When I was younger I was probably a little to the left and now that I'm older I'm a bit to the right of center. But still, IMO, about smack in the middle. I'm a live-and-let-live kind of guy, I believe in strong fiscal policy, reigning in debt, cutting back spending wherever possible, etc. I also would like to see less government rather than more, but I'm not overly bothered by the idea that we need some programs to help regulate people and industries in ways that keep all of us safe and healthy. The far left seems to have jumped into the loony boat and are busy dismantling the hull at sea. Not the smartest move in my opinion.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Additionally, what is wrong with adopting 'Meninism'-- which is Gender Equality advocacy from the Male perspective. If we're all about 'equal rights for both genders', what is the resistance to including the perspectives from both genders into the mix. And moreover, what is the dogged insistence upon calling the STANDARD FOR GENDER EQUALITY by a name that is specifically and very pointedly built on top of the phoneme and taxonomic prefix of ONE gender?
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy You believe that there is a 'good' / 'healthy' type of Feminism. Tell me what that is, what it's about, and how that differs from the general case of 'Egalitarianism'?
For a group consisting of members with triple-digit IQ's, it sure is pretty quiet in here.
MickeyRat comments on Apr 25, 2019:
I think you're ignoring human nature. Unless people change radically, there will always be some form of interpersonal/interregional conflict, competition, tribalism, etc. I suspect it might even be a survival characteristic. Most human universals are. The lion's share of the basic technology ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
I very much agree with you-- particularly about the 'singularity' / convergence part. That's why I believe that we are rapidly approaching new territory for humans-- a place that none of us have ever been before, and for which we really have no useful precedent or history to guide ourselves with.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy I didn't pick that up from your wording, thanks for the clarification.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy To answer your question-- Gender equality is a good thing. It is a good thing when people of all races, all genders, all nationalities, all creeds have equal access to opportunities and equal representation under the law. On that point you and I are in absolute complete lockstep agreement. But that isn't "Feminism", it's "Egalitarianism". There is already a word for that in the dictionary, we don't need another one which is specifically gendered to compete with it. Ask yourself why-- if we already have a concept for equality-- Egalitarianism-- why we need some other "-ism" which is specifically skewed toward one gender instead of simply representing all genders-- all people equally-- an Egalitarian society. Further ask yourself, why wouldn't a specifically NON-GENDERED approach to equality suit the people who call themselves Feminists as an equal-opportunity one-size-fits-all approach to equality and equal representation. Unless THEIR version wasn't really about equality but rather skewing social policy towards themselves thus enhancing their own status at the detriment of those they dislike-- aka Men-- except they can't just come right out and SAY men, that would be too obvious--so they invent a term, "Patriarchy" which is supposedly the creation and construct of MEN and MEN ALONE-- thus absolving themselves (and "Women") of any agency or responsibility in the doings of society or the hows and whys it is what it is. Thus "Men", aka "The Patriarchy", became their perfect foils-- their whipping boys to blame anything and everything that they saw fit to throw their way. As I said before, there's "lots of different types of Feminism"-- but only ONE type of "Patriarchy" and it's ALL BAD-- and conveniently, ALL MALE. Do your own research and homework. Don't just take my word for it.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Those women, look them up at your convenience-- I can't really provide you the evidence you requested if you aren't willing to independently verify it. Here's a sampling of the things they've written and said-- what Feminism is really about. You should take some time and read through them and really consider what they're saying. And while you're reading, consider what you would think if you replaced the "he's" with "she's" or with "blacks" or "jews" or any other minority or ethnic group-- would you find any of these sentiments acceptable? “To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.” ?—?Valerie Solanas, founder of S.C.U.M. (Society for Cutting Up Men), attempted to murder Andy Warhol in 1968; S.C.U.M. Manifesto (1967) “Under patriarchy, every woman’s son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman.” ?—?Andrea Dworkin, author and anti-pornography activist; Our Blood (1976) p. 20 “[Rape] is nothing more or less than a conscious process of intimidation by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.” ?—?Susan Brownmiller, journalist and author, co-founder of Women Against Pornography; Against Our Will(1975) p. 5 “The institution of sexual intercourse is anti-feminist.” ?—?Ti-Grace Atkinson, author, president of New York NOW and founder of the October 17th Movement; Amazon Odyssey (1974) p. 86 “I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.” ?—?Robin Morgan, author and editor for Ms. Magazine; Going Too Far (1978) p. 178 “Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession… The choice to serve and be protected and plan towards being a family-maker is a choice that shouldn’t be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that.” ?—?Vivian Gornick, author and educator at The New School; The Daily Illini (25 April 1981) “I feel what they feel: man-hating, that volatile admixture of pity, contempt, disgust, envy, alienation, fear, and rage at men … for the men women share their lives with?—?husbands, lovers, friends, fathers, brothers, sons, co-workers.” ?—?Judith Levine, author and political activist; My Enemy, My Love (1992) p. 3 “There are times when a woman reading Playboy feels a little like a Jew reading a Nazi manual.” ?—?Gloria Steinem, journalist and activist, co-founder of Ms. Magazine, prominent figure of second-wave feminism; McCall’s (October 1970) “And if the professional rapist is to be separated from the average dominant heterosexual [male], it may be mainly a quantitative difference.” ?—?Susan Griffin, author and recipient of the MacArthur grant and an Emmy for the ...
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Okay, that's a reasonable request-- and I am attempting to help you get there. >> "Why is Feminism bad"? I will put it bluntly, but I suspect you won't accept it, so we'll have to continue with the longer discussion anyway-- but here goes. It is designed at its core to tear down men and boys and destroy masculinity. It's in their own writings, articles, speeches, rallies-- you really need to get out more. Here is a sampling from Kate Millet, an influential Feminist Author ("Sexual Politics") and influential thought leader throughout the 60's and 70's... This is a snippet from a biography about her written by her sister recounting one of her rallies: “Why are we here today?” she asked. “To make revolution,” they answered. “What kind of revolution?” she replied. “The Cultural Revolution,” they chanted. “And how do we make Cultural Revolution?” she demanded. “By destroying the American family!” they answered. “How do we destroy the family?” she came back. “By destroying the American Patriarch,” they cried exuberantly. “And how do we destroy the American Patriarch?” she replied. “By taking away his power!” “How do we do that?” “By destroying monogamy!” they shouted. “How can we destroy monogamy?” “By promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution and homosexuality!” they resounded.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Why don't you go look some of them up. These are Feminists, people who self-identify with the ideology that you indicated is about gender equality. You might also note that I included a quick blurb about them-- Hillary Clinton, I'm sure you recognize? Perhaps Gloria Steiham or Germaine Greer? Mary Koss? These are many of the movers and shakers of the Feminist movement. The authors, the leaders, the pop-culture personas. You claim you know about Feminism and yet you don't seem to have much grounding in its history, scope or message?? What about the "Declaration of Sentiments" from the Seneca Falls convention in 1848-- the document that kicked off the entire movement? The one that pretty much blamed men for all of the perceived ills of women and read basically like a declaration of war? How can you tell me that Feminism is about "gender equality" and all the lovey-dovey stuff if you don't know what it is?
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy On the offhand chance that you typoed or misspoke-- I don't understand the difference between the two things you referenced: No, I don't definethe KKK as a hate group. I categorize it as a hate group.there's a difference. And as to your other item, I did concede earlier that Feminism is an '-ism'.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Just for my own edification, would you agree that these women represent a reasonable sampling of Feminist leaders, authors, professors, advisors and general thought-leaders throughout the decades? Hillary Clinton, American diplomat and former senator; First Ladies’ Conference on Domestic Violence, El Salvador, 1998 Gloria Steinem, journalist and activist, co-founder of Ms. Magazine, prominent figure of second-wave feminism; McCall’s (October 1970) Mary Daly, philosopher and former professor at Boston College (women’s studies and others); “No Man’s Land”; What Is Enlightenment? (Fall/Winter 1999) Sally Miller Gearhart, author and former professor of women’s studies at San Francisco State University; The Future?—?If There Is One?—?Is Female (1981) Germaine Greer, author, journalist and former lecturer at the University of Warwick; The Female Eunuch(1970) Mary Koss, researcher and professor of psychology at Kent State University; Sexual Experiences Survey(1982) Marilyn French, author and lecturer, advisor to Al Gore’s presidential campaign; The War Against Women(1992) Valerie Solanas, founder of S.C.U.M. (Society for Cutting Up Men), attempted to murder Andy Warhol in 1968; S.C.U.M. Manifesto (1967) Andrea Dworkin, author and anti-pornography activist; Our Blood (1976) Susan Brownmiller, journalist and author, co-founder of Women Against Pornography; Against Our Will(1975) Ti-Grace Atkinson, author, president of New York NOW and founder of the October 17th Movement; Amazon Odyssey (1974) Robin Morgan, author and editor for Ms. Magazine; Going Too Far (1978) Vivian Gornick, author and educator at The New School; The Daily Illini (25 April 1981) Judith Levine, author and political activist; My Enemy, My Love (1992) Susan Griffin, author and recipient of the MacArthur grant and an Emmy for the play Voices; Rape: The All-American Crime; Ramparts Magazine (1971) Barbara Jordan, United States Representative of Texas; Running as a Woman (1994) Gerda Lerner, former professor of women’s studies at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, helped found the field of Women’s History; The Creation of Patriarchy, Volume 1 (1986) Catherine Comins, assistant dean of students at Vassar College; TIME Magazine (June 3 1992) Catharine MacKinnon, philosopher and professor at three universities, presently University of Michigan; A Rally Against Rape (1981) Sandra Bartky, professor of philosophy and gender studies at the University of Illinois; Femininity and Domination (1990) Cheryl Clarke, author and former educator and dean of students at Rutgers University; Words of Fire (1995) Joyce Trebilcot, author and former professor of philosophy and women’s studies at Washington University; Who Stole Feminism ...
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy I've already given you my definition of Feminism, that it's a hate group. In the exact same manner and vein that people collectively consider the Ku Klux Klan a hate group... I'm assuming (presumptuous of me, I know) that you DO consider the KKK a hate group? Do YOU stop people when they talk about the KKK and ask *which* KKK group they're talking about-- 'cause there's all types and they believe different things. In fact, I challenge you to help me understand the fundamental difference in marching around in white robes holding up signs and chanting "White Power" and putting on little pink pussy hats and holding up signs while chanting "Girl Power" and "The Future is Female". In fact, I'll note that there seems to be a whole lot MORE of the latter type than the former type-- and yet people get their knickers in a twist over the dudes draped in bedsheets.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Are they groups? Or differences of opinion? How do you know them when you see them? Are we allowed to use their own statements and self-categorizations to identify them and "put them in boxes" (for our own conversational convenience)? How come there's all these different types of 'Feminism' but only one type of 'Patriarchy' and it's all bad..??
I did a little experiment, to see what would happen.
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
What did you expect?
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@DuranDuran Roger that. G'night. Looking forward to picking it up when you're ready.
I did a little experiment, to see what would happen.
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
What did you expect?
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@DuranDuran How can you even use the word 'racist' when a huge chunk of our population is both [a] hispanic, and [b] FROM those actual countries !?!? That just doesn't make any type of sense. It is lefty-lunacy of the type they peddle on CNN, MSNBC, and the other garbage-news networks.
I did a little experiment, to see what would happen.
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
What did you expect?
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@DuranDuran I will always do my best to be honest with you as well. I do not always know the truth and there are times that I labor under erroneous assumptions. But I will answer with truth as I know it and always stand ready (however pig-headedly) to be persuaded by evidence or to learn something new. And if I ever sound grumpy, please accept my apologies upfront, I rarely ever actually am. But I do get up a head of steam on occasion and can sometimes forget to put on the brakes ;-)
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy And defining the Ku Klux Klan is definitely necessary if we're going to get anywhere in this conversation. But I would prefer to use your definition and not mine so you can't accuse me of rigging the debate. Go look it up on the web and post one in if you would prefer. I understand. And I also understand why you're reluctant. But I remind you that you're the one who called me out on it-- claimed that I had a faulty definition of Feminism. I am attempting to answer your questions. You could alternately define "Nazis" if you would rather, but that path will be less clear and potentially harder to follow. The Ku Klux Klan is a much better parallel, IMO.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Fair enough, and for the record, I'm easy to get along with (generally) and I come and go too, so I'm used to discussions lagging on either end. No worries. Thank you for your definition. I'll note that you immediately jumped to telling me what Feminism isn't-- (an assault on masculinity, etc.)-- meaning that you know full well that is the opinion and perception of a huge lot of people, and quite probably considerably more than the Feminists themselves, seeing as how practically nobody identifies themselves as a 'Feminist' (you can google the various polls to see for yourself). But let's start here-- why would you be concerned that I would think it was an 'assault on masculinity' if indeed it was simply about 'equality'? Shouldn't such as well-thought out and equanimous idea be met with universal acceptance? Shouldn't it be self-evident on its face? Why must you immediately jump in and let me know that it isn't about-- you know, hating men or anything like that-- if it wasn't already known for-- you know, hating men and things like that? But okay, let's assume it's unfairly maligned and all of its detractors are stupid misogynistic basement-dwelling neck-beards of the sort that Feminists like to characterize their detractors as being... what reproductive rights do men have that women don't have? What can men do legally that women can't do? Why do we need to subscribe to a hateful ideology in order to believe that women are worthwhile and valuable members of society? BTW, just for the record, we already HAVE a definition of equality-- it's Egalitarianism. Why do you think an group that claims to be unbiased in its aims uses the prefix 'FEM' in its moniker? Surely 'Patriarchy' is an adequate framework and platform to work within to achieve gender equality. Or if 'Patriarchy' doesn't work for some reason (even though Feminists have no problems at all using it to further their agendas), what would be wrong with adopting 'Meninism'-- the gender equality espoused by Men's Rights Advocates? Surely Feminists recognize and hail fellow gender-equity proponents and reach out in solidarity like they do with their Gay, Lesbian and other ABQXYZ groups... Right?
I did a little experiment, to see what would happen.
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
What did you expect?
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@DuranDuran >> "There is a statue in NY that says "Give us your tired,your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free." How many of those 'huddled masses' are you volunteering to take in at your house to clothe, feed and provide medical care for? How many freeloaders can we afford? We have the welfare system, the homeless population to deal with, people who are chronically unemployed or under-employed for whatever reason, to say nothing of the various handouts and supplements we give to mothers, children, huge-ass corporations-- you know, pretty much anybody with their hand out. How many more are you suggesting we import? You might want to go look at the history of immigration policy in this country-- you might be surprised. You might want to bone up on the immigration policies of all of the major Western countries-- I guarantee it would be a real eye-opener for you. None of them swing their gates wide-open for whomever wants to drag themselves in the door. All of them have specific quotas for types of people, religions, ethnic backgrounds, vocation types, and the whole bit. But apparently its "wrong" and "racist" if we have standards to meet in this country. Just for the record, I'm not personally against immigration-- from Europe or much of anywhere else-- provided that they come here legally, pass through our immigration centers and work to assimilate into our American culture and become Americans-- great MELTING POT Americans, not hyphenated Americans, IMO. Things are no different anywhere else on the planet, why do you expect them to be different here? To fulfill some incredibly inept and poorly conceived left-wing agenda??? (If they come, they'll vote for DEMOCRATS and all that FREE STUFF that **YOU** pay for out of your ever-increasing tax dollars.) You can pay YOUR tax dollars for that, but the rest of us are sick and tired of it and we just want our country back.
I did a little experiment, to see what would happen.
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
What did you expect?
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@DuranDuran Uhhh.. now I'm confused. Hasn't every point you've been making (more or less) been about how bad Trump is? What have I missed?
A Canadian man has been charged with "Family Violence" for refusing to call his child a "he" ...
CalebBaeten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
This isn't exactly the same, obviously, but I see this happening so much in the venues of higher learning. Students, especially, are hindered, silenced, harrassed, etc. constantly for any belief that doesn't fit within the "normal" mold. I think it stems from consistent training to accept what their...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
All of that is bad enough-- but the real crime here is the fact that he's been restricted from speaking. That in addition to trying him and convicting him the court has in addition taken away his voice. That is just wrong and severely unjust. And all of that is not to trivialize or take away from what is happening to the child. This goes against the very principles of free speech that Canada has always claimed it cherished, and moreover the United Nation's "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" wherein they explicitly champion individual rights to speech, expression and assembly. UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights: https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy >> "How do you define feminism? There are differing views, and not all forms are unhealthy; not all contribute to the deterioration of the family." Interestingly, you're taking me to task over my definition of Feminism while conspicuously refusing to provide one yourself. And further, I'll note that it was you who initially claimed that my definition was faulty without even knowing what my definition is. And on top of that, you even went so far as to presuppose the various manners in which my alleged definition might prove faulty-- so clearly you have some notion which you've brought to the table regarding what you believe my definition is. (I hope that was an actual sentence ;-) Please do not judge me too harshly in my circling the topic. I am not attempting to be hostile, though I am being a tiny bit evasive, I admit-- but so are you. And we each know why. I'll also note that you have yet to define Ku Klux Klan-- and I believe it is for pretty much the same reason. I would like to have a dialogue with you about these topics and I do realize that it is important to lay some definitions out on the table. But you know and I know that we are both sitting here waiting for something concrete to sink our teeth into. I have stated my sincere belief that Feminism is a hate group. Or if you prefer-- which I know (strongly suspect) it's where you want to go-- Feminism is a hateful ideology. Will that make it easier for you to get to the next round?
Liberty vs risk equation I have often wondered if we could accurately and scientifically measure the...
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm not sure that there is a good answer that works for all parties. It seems to me that "Risk Management" equals "Regulation". But conversely, the lack of risk management seems to lead to "Socialize the Costs, Privatize the Rewards". Too much of either leads to a corrupt society and the only way ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@Pate49 No doubt, but I would posit that simply dropping all regulations would have been equally problematic-- unless.... 'X'... What is 'X' here?
Liberty vs risk equation I have often wondered if we could accurately and scientifically measure the...
jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
I'm not sure that there is a good answer that works for all parties. It seems to me that "Risk Management" equals "Regulation". But conversely, the lack of risk management seems to lead to "Socialize the Costs, Privatize the Rewards". Too much of either leads to a corrupt society and the only way ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 25, 2019:
@Pate49 Okay, so how would 'no regulation at all' address / reliably mitigate risks and thus be considered 'risk management'? (Apologies for seeming pedantic, I am wanting to understand your view here).
Nobody wants to work on themselves.
waynus comments on Apr 23, 2019:
There seems to be a decided lack of willingness to accept the world for what it is and instead of trying to make it better, trying to blame someone else. The big surprise to so many, is that not everyone agrees with them. People have lost sight of the need to work with those we do not agree with ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@waynus 'Backwards in time'? I understand that's a euphemism and you're actually referring to culture-- but what do you mean? What values / culture do you believe they are longing to adopt? (Sincere question, no gotchas-- I suspect I know, I just want to hear what you have to say)
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Okay, let's try this a different way. What is your definition of Feminism?
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy How can we 'summarize' when there is no information on the table? You have asked me for my opinion and definitions and I have given them to you. I have asked you for yours and you have yet to provide any definitions of your own. So far the only information to 'summarize' is my own, which I am already aware of. If you do not accept my definitions you are welcome to supply your own-- which I have requested.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy So what are the different groups of Feminism?
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy It is now. What is your definition of the Ku Klux Klan?
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy BTW, define Ku Klux Klan.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Of course it's a group. You just indicated so yourself.
I keep seeing the same theme across social media: A want for a second civil war.
EdNason comments on Apr 24, 2019:
it would not be much of a war when the other side has no guns, and is not sure what bathroom to use.
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@The_Farseer They don't want to get rid of the right-wing anything. Or the left-wing either. Both of them work to give them legitimacy as well as excuses to crack down on whatever they want when the need arises. Rather they are interested in rounding up and eliminating anybody who can give them an actual run for their money, which is always going to be the intelligentsia-- aka, the skeptical community, who is currently being dubbed the 'alt-right' by the left-wing smear campaign because stupid people won't know the difference and smart people won't care what the difference is.
I keep seeing the same theme across social media: A want for a second civil war.
Gerri4321 comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Unity? anyone out there understand this is a must?
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@The_Farseer I'm guessing your granddad wouldn't have appreciated being called 'homogeneous'... ;-)
I keep seeing the same theme across social media: A want for a second civil war.
Gerri4321 comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Unity? anyone out there understand this is a must?
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@The_Farseer Actually I didn't specify. Let's simply assume that my god isn't your god. What now. Are you going to practice Unity and bow down to my god, or tolerance and simply not sweat it when I do?
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy According to the Southern Poverty Law Center's web site: https://www.splcenter.org/20171004/frequently-asked-questions-about-hate-groups#hate%20group (BTW, I love gigging them with their own definition) What is a hate group? The Southern Poverty Law Center defines a hate group as an organization that – based on its official statements or principles, the statements of its leaders, or its activities – has beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics. We do not list individuals as hate groups, only organizations. The organizations on our hate group list vilify others because of their race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation or gender identity – prejudices that strike at the heart of our democratic values and fracture society along its most fragile fault lines. The FBI uses similar criteria in its definition of a hate crime: [A] criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity. We define a “group” as an entity that has a process through which followers identify themselves as being part of the group. This may involve donating, paying membership dues or participating in activities such as meetings and rallies. Individual chapters of a larger organization are each counted separately, because the number indicates reach and organizing activity.
I believe humanity doesn't so much inhabit the earth as it infests it.
MickeyRat comments on Apr 24, 2019:
First, of course a natural disaster or astronomic event can and probably eventually will wipe humanity from the face of the earth but, it won't be because the earth was sick of us. It's just the nature of things. The earth didn't hate the dinosaurs did it? Any speculation about intelligent ...
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@MickeyRat I only found out about it by accident myself this past weekend. It seemed like the perfect opportunity to flaunt my newfound knowledge! ;-)
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy I did define it. I defined it as a hate group.
A Canadian man has been charged with "Family Violence" for refusing to call his child a "he" ...
FrankHahn comments on Apr 24, 2019:
the left ruins everything
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
This is why we can't have nice things.
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jwhitten comments on Apr 24, 2019:
Feminism and subversive action by cultural marxists.
jwhitten replies on Apr 24, 2019:
@ObiRonMoldy Okay, let's find out... Feminism is a hate group by every rational measure.

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