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Forcing Taxpayers to Fund Abortions?

“I could feel the baby being torn from my insides. It was really painful....Three-quarters of the way through the operation I sat up....In the cylinder I saw the bits and pieces of my little child floating in a pool of blood. I screamed and jumped up off the table....I just couldn't stop throwing up....” ― Randy Alcorn

"Abortion is the only event that modern liberals think too violent and obscene to portray on TV. This is not because they are squeamish or prudish. It is because if people knew what Abortion really looked like, it would destroy their pretence that it is a civilized answer to the problem of what to do about unwanted babies." Peter Hitchens

“I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.”
― Ronald Reagan

“The abortion debate is more about power and control than the fate of a zygote.”
― Thor Benson

The zygote represents the first stage in the development of a genetically unique organism. The zygote is endowed with genes from two parents, and thus it is diploid (carrying two sets of chromosomes). The joining of haploid gametes to produce a diploid zygote is a common feature in the sexual reproduction of all organisms except bacteria.

“Militant feminists are pro‐choice because it’s their ultimate avenue of power over men. And believe me, to them it is a question of power. It is their attempt to impose their will on the rest of society, particularly on men.” ― Rush Limbaugh, The Way Things Ought to Be

“The so-called right to abortion has pitted mothers against their children and women against men. It has sown violence and discord at the heart of the most intimate human relationships. It has aggravated the derogation of the father's role in an increasingly fatherless society. It has portrayed the greatest of gifts--a child--as a competitor, an intrusion and an inconvenience. It has nominally accorded mothers unfettered dominion over the dependent lives of their physically dependent sons and daughters. If a mother can kill her own child - what is left for me to kill you and you to kill me - there is nothing between. And, in granting this unconscionable power, it has exposed many women to unjust and selfish demands from their husbands or other sexual partners.”

“I certainly supported a woman's right to choose, but to my mind the time to choose was before, not after the fact.”― Ann B. Ross, Miss Julia Throws a Wedding

Pro-abortion Democrats, led by Rep. Rosa DeLauro, D-Conn., are renewing their attempts to force taxpayers to fund elective abortions by attacking the Hyde Amendment — a guardrail that, for 44 years, has ensured that taxpayer dollars do not pay for most abortions (the language includes an exception for rare instances of rape or incest, for example).

The Hyde Amendment is good policy as a matter of principle. It is also a popular policy, too. After all, 6 in 10 Americans oppose taxpayer funding for abortion, including 42% of independents and one-third of Democrats.
So why the calls to do away with a popular, consensus policy? Three words: the abortion lobby.

Radical and well-funded actors like Planned Parenthood, NARAL Pro-Choice America, and others have exerted increasing influence on the left in recent years. As a presidential candidate, Joe Biden even reversed his decades-long history of supporting the Hyde Amendment and abandoned his long-held position in light of the left’s new abortion orthodoxy.

If congressional Democrats have their way and the Hyde Amendment is no longer incorporated in annual appropriations bills—which DeLauro and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi have said will be the case—thousands of unborn boys and girls will pay the price.

Krunoslav 9 Dec 15
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In short, she is Commie-la Harris.

@Krunoslav yeah but there was the abortion info in there, relevant to the post.

@MichelleD Yeah. I've listen to it, disgusting. Makes my stomach twist, lefties have no redeeming characteristics. They are in religious terms , evil.

“If we lived in a culture that valued women's autonomy and in which men and women practiced cooperative birth control, the abortion issue would be moot.” ― Christiane Northrup, Women's Bodies, Women's Wisdom: Creating Physical and Emotional Health and Healing

But its part of feminism which is Marxism in a skirt. So its very much rooted in the Marxism ideology to be against family and even babies. And Harris is more than happy to establish some kind of communist regime.

"And then, at that exact dispirited moment when there seemed no one at all willing to play the proletariat, along came the women's movement.” ― Joan Didion, The White Album

Motherhood gets a raw deal from feminists, because for feminists motherhood and parenting represents responsibility and therefore they see it as a way they are not as "free" to men, but see abortion as a way to really take full control from men and assert control over them.

Sexuality is to feminism what capital is to marxism: that which is most one’s own, yet most taken away. Marxist theory argues that society is fundamentally constructed of the relations people form as they do and make things needed to survive humanly. Work is the social process of shaping and transforming the material and social worlds, creating people as social beings as they create value. It is that activity by which people become who they are. Class is its structure, production its conse­quence, capital its congealed form, and control its issue.

In the end feminists want the rights of a man, the privilege of a woman, and the responsibility of neither.

Feminism apparently makes up problems where there shouldn't be any while at the same time it manages to stay blind to the ones it creates.

As for communism link and families, I'll leave a quote in an image here.

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Abortion is surely the single greatest sin of our culture, hands down.

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we are already funding them MEDICAID

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Imagine if HER mother had been PRO CHOICE?
Imagine if HITLER'S mother had PRO CHOICE?

Trust women, they KNOW.

There's NO BABY until delivery. There are thousands of spontaneous abortions(miscarriages). But those occur within a month usually.
Any abortion is done soon, 6-8 weeks.
But realize MEN are in control of BIRTH CONTROL PILLS.
It's women's business, and those pills aren't healthy.

It's lack of birth control, and need for extended B pills, aka 72 hour after pills. No reason birth control wasn't in the woman's drink or
cookie.
Men don't have the right motivation women have. How can they?
Then we wouldn't have these situations. WAY cheaper.

Why angry? Don't force women.
The world was better without Hitler.

@2FollowHim Murder is murder. 63 Million babies murdered since 1973 is way more evil than Hitler.

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When do we abort Pelosi?

As soon as possible.

@Krunoslav can't wait. She's the equivalent of having an autoimmune disease

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Don't see why you care. You don't live in the US, your money isn't funding anything here.

However, for those of us who do live in the US, we cannot choose how our taxes are spent. Someone may object to their taxes funding someone's abortion - and currently they wouldn't have to worry, because of the Hyde Amendment. But if someone doesn't want their taxpayer dollars used to buy another tank to go kill people in a frivolous war, they are out of luck.

I don't have children, yet my taxes go towards educating other people's kids. I'd prefer my tax dollars not go towards Trump golfing 150 times, or having his Secret Service stay at his hotels and line his pockets. A third of taxpayer funding for sexual education goes towards "Abstinence-Only" programs, which are not held to any standard, and can teach factually-incorrect information like "condoms cause cancer" - these are public school programs, funded by my tax dollars, which are spreading disinformation... and I have no say in this. The Catholic Church received billions of dollars in COVID relief, funded by taxpayers, and I couldn't object. The SCOTUS ruled that taxpayer-funded grants can go to private religious schools, like to upgrade their playground equipment, and I can't opt-out.

So cry me a river that Democrats want to remove the Hyde Amendment. Maybe Christians can now experience what it is like to have your taxpayer dollars used for things you object to.

Killing babies for profit and politics? You are sick. Just like the rest of your comrade friends. At the end that is will be your downfall. Baby killing religion you all adopted. You think Muslims, Africans, Chinese or Most of Europe or even America will allow you to just keep doing this? You better prey the tide does not shift, because when you threaten people's children they go war. And you sickos are doing that. When it reaches critical moment, you will see push back against this madness you never seen before.

@Krunoslav are you off your meds? Do you even think about what you are saying before you write it down?

Let's start off by saying fetuses and embryos are not babies. They are clumps of cells. So right off the bat, this isn't "killing babies" - and don't even try to peddle that late-term, the baby is born and killed, bullshit that right-wing pundits like to lie about. One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone. A dead person cannot have an organ donated to someone in need without express written consent - yet you want to control what a woman can do with her body? An alive women has less rights than a dead person?

Second, how is this for profit or politics? And how does this have anything to do with religion, other than telling religions they cannot dictate the laws or control people. How is this threatening anybody's children? You realize pro-choice means CHOICE - no one is forcing people to have abortions. It is giving people the CHOICE to have one.

At this point, you have proven yourself to be no more than a troll, trying to sow discord in the US.

@JacksonNought Comrade I know concept of basic ethics, common sense, and family is foreign to you.... but maybe you can use any remaining brain cells and tell me how USA went from Roe vs Wade case to having signs calling babies parasites and public officials talking about killing babies after they are born? Or reports of selling dead baby parts?

Alabama State Rep. John Rogers 🍸 on abortion: “Some kids are unwanted, so you kill them now or you kill them later. You bring them in the world unwanted, unloved, you send them to the electric chair. So, you kill them now or you kill them later” pic.twitter.com/dxPg6X759h

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) May 1, 2019

Or Bill Gates and the rest of the sickos talking about depopulation openly, and than pushing vaccines as method.

I know you are sick man , Jackson or whatever you real name is, but if you can't see the problem even a little problem..... than you too will be aborted when the time comes, just like democrats turned their back on Antifa and BLM when they are no longer useful. Its called being a useful idiot. I must say, you are doing a marvelous job at it.

@Krunoslav at this point why even engage with you? All you do is throw insults, peddle false narratives, build up strawmen, and read from the Christian Conservative playbook verbatim.

You aren't even a "useful" idiot, just an idiot plain and simple.

@JacksonNought Go away, comrade. I'm fine not wasting time on you and you are free to do the same.

@Krunoslav sounds great, Nazi bigot boy.

@JacksonNought I TOTALLY agree. And to say anti abortion is Christian is an outright lie.
Not in the bible, anywhere.
YHWH, aka God doesn't FORCE. Ever. Definitely refute this, we're on!
I'm Christian, 100% pro CHOICE.
It's SEX. Sex produces babies.
And did you know birth control for women is a bad joke?
Those are bad for women's health. Maybe just SOME.

My Lord, Hitler's mother begged for an ABORTION.

I'm on a rant, bear with me, or skip over.
The fetus grows INSIDE the woman. The woman FEELS this life, knows what it's like.
She knows if she's UP TO doing it, wants to.

Men are never put into those TRAPS.
Every baby WANTED, 2 parents.
Then no runaways, no child sex trafficking.

You then don't have runaways.
This then isn't Christianity. So what is it?
Paganism, fertility gods.

Crime plummeted after Wade vs. Roe bcuz
druggie, prostitutes, young teens could terminate.

It's not hard to start new life. Just make sure everyone can handle it, starting with the mother.

But abortion should occur in 1st trimester unless very unique situation.

These males have absolutely no caring let alone love for women.
If women are confused, then have counseling by
relatively unbiased person.

Muslim women are baby machines; the Vatican want baby machines.
But it's not of God.

@JacksonNought You said:

Maybe Christians can now experience what it is like to have your taxpayer dollars used for things you object to.

There are already plenty of things for which tax dollars are used that Christians object to, starting with much of what is taught in public schools. So, I assure you, we are already well acquainted with what this feels like.

But, as it turns out, it isn't just Christians who are for the Hyde Amendment and against tax-payer support of abortions, as @Krunoslav pointed out:

... 6 in 10 Americans oppose taxpayer funding for abortion, including 42% of independents and one-third of Democrats.

However, as I understand it, the Hyde Amendment doesn't prohibit the taxpayer funding of all abortions anyway, since it allows for several exceptions to which most Christians have been apposed all along (e.g. for rape and incest). So, again, we are already quite familiar with what it feels like to have our tax dollars fund things to which we are morally opposed.

@2FollowHim I would suggest you examine yourself because you don't think like any Christians I know.

@dmatic What do you mean? What loving God forces women? What should I examine?
Seriously? It's unkind to force women, or men on issues.
I guarantee it's not biblical.
It's the 'god of forces' that removes choice.
These women aren't even Christian usually.
Yet standards, pagan standards are applied to all.
You go find the scriptures.
Christianity is based on the Bible, not on something else.
I am in the faith. Are you? Since we're asking?
Did you think it BETTER Hitler's MOTHER was denied abortion?
You don't know your Bible.

@2FollowHim Examine yourself to see if your are "in the faith", or are simply deceived. What you apparently are saying is that God would not 'force' someone NOT to commit murder? Murder, of course, is a transgression of God's Law. (Otherwise known as 'sin'😉 What loving Father wouldn't override his child's will to commit murder?

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