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Hardcore Partisans Don't Understand Each Other (and it's worst among educated liberals)

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timon_phocas 9 June 28
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Does anyone else think this graphic was really telling?

And, I'd guess that the graphic underrepresents the effect due to misreport. I'm in that particular demographic a lot.

chuckpo Level 8 June 28, 2019

That represents the left-better-than-thou bubble that the ruling class lives in

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I've read enough on this topic that I'll pass on the article, but I'll toss out an idea as to why:

The more you know, the less rational a traditional framework seems, and the more ridiculous leftist theory proves to be. I crawled all into the privilege/power/oppression theory and find it lacking reason, research and evidence; it isn't "theory," it's "theology." Traditionalism shares much of that, and needs always to face inquiry, but at least it has proven to mostly function as a way to stave off the abject horror of existence most humans endured throughout the pre-modern ages, the lunacy we enjoy today in the post-modern age, and even mostly mitigated the difficulties of a human condition not at all yet adapted to difficulties of modernity.

govols Level 8 June 28, 2019

The educated left don't yet realize that their theology isn't science, so they think they're all reason and shit when they're really as faith based and gut-instinct driven as the traditionalists they hate. If they ever take the time to realize their own emperor is as naked as any that came before, maybe they'll again recognize a tyrant when they see one.

@govols, just passing on some of my own experiences. The 'pseudo-scientists' don't have a party. There are tons of them. They map numbers onto their biases and call it fact. Theology is the perfect term, because it has become a religion. But, it goes even further than that, it's been weaponized by zealots for its power to promote dogma. Guess how much they like hearing that message? Hahaha. They don't like it.

@govols " the lefts own emporer" is depraved and is responsible for the untimely deaths of upwards of 300 million people in the 20th century.
The leftists of today seem to think they can control that depraved ideology because their own version is somehow magically better...because racism and climate change? Nevermind whatever their rationale might be it is distinctly irrational.

I “useta was” one of those educated liberals. I became more educated when I allowed in more information I was browbeat and shamed to not even look at. The castigation I received for questioning the ever changing definitions and dogma led me to dig even further, and I woke up to their game. They create the monsters only they can save you from, because all disagreement on the right comes from irrational fear and hate.
Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.
That’s all the left has.
You disagree because you are a bad person.

I would say that the right understands the left far better than the article assumes. Because many of us used to be the left.
#walkaway

@iThink Er, I don't think that because the Soviet or Chinese version of Marxism starved a bunch of people to death, that we can't have any socialism at all, or else it will just creep up and eat us.

What's the alternative? I hear it from libertarians all the time (and they are even farther out there than Yaron Brook).

It goes: we'll have no socialism of the land, sea, groundwater, river, or air. That killed hundreds of millions, didn't you know?

Instead we'll have individual OWNERS of parcels of land, sea, groundwater, river, and air. Nevermind how we determine who owns it to sell it the first time (where's that title search??)

Anyway, if one MOLECULE of your shit or bad smell drifts over my property line, I have a nuclear howitzer pointed right at your bathroom window.

And that's their idea for society. Easements and beach access extra. Just send for your $1.00 pamphlet on how it all works.

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@Cheetolini
"I would say that the right understands the left far better than the article assumes."

Truth! and you don't have to have been a leftist to know this...all it takes is to allow your common sense to talk you into questioning all the nonsense they toss around on the left.

@iThink
I listened to Air America on XM for 4 years one 12 hour shift at a time in heavy machinery. I know all the arguments. And it really boils down to two thing on the left. “Our arguments are the moral arguments, all other arguments are immoral, so don’t even entertain them or become “them” “
And “conservatives make all decisions from irrational fear and hate”.
If you listen to any argument, it will always boil down to those two positions. If you follow the argument long enough, the liberal will morally posture, and call you a poopoo face.
Most of their arguments are linear. They can’t see past the talking point to the consequences, and usually can’t back up any assertions, which frustrates them into wondering out loud “why can’t you see how I feel.”

It is so Orwellian it scares me, and shames me for what I used to allow myself to believe and promote.

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