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so if federal state and local government can disband church congregations, where does the line stand on seperation between church and state in us of a, during the corvid panspermia?

CuriousFury 7 Mar 15
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The government didn't ban any church service. The churches did that on their own and I happen to know that some were open this past weekend.

drptree Level 6 Mar 16, 2020
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trump could have been cool if he came out and told the spring breakers
"hey, take a week to netflix and chill with your family. you'll save a few bucks, maybe get some family projects done and get to play some board games.

and you can call yourself a patriot combating a virus.

but do what you want. its a free nation."

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well, i have s family member that works in a general clinic in the seattle area, and have another branch of the family in self quarentine. so its already monkeying around my family tree.so i will just double down on the tinfoil.

This is a very fast bug. Too fast for all but the most prepared societies. So almost everyone will be exposed. That's not the problem.

Most of us will recover just fine. It may be more dangerous than the flu, but we still don't know by how much. Maybe not much at all. We'll know very soon.

The real danger is the hysteria that the media has created in absence of good information, and the political opportunists that will try to advance the agenda no one will put up with normally.

@TimTuolomne agreed

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You know that the pandemic in Italy started with a religious gathering?

They are also banning non religious gatherings.
Take off the tinfoil. They are not coming for you freedom of religion, they are trying to flatten the disease curve.

Hanno Level 8 Mar 15, 2020
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Now is not the time to be political. Lets take a breath, let things chill and when the dust has settled, we can engage in discussion of the merits and dangers of Martial Law in the face of a genuine catastrophic event.

took the words right out of my mouth.

ahh i see anythings allowed until we are talking about nearly 100% certainties. then we are told to moderate?

@CuriousFury NO - is the concept of prioritizing in the middle of a crisis moment lost on you? Do you not think it wise to first do your best mitigate the harm and to try to treat those already harmed? Once the crisis moment is over you can afford to use your time and energy placing blame if indeed there is blame to be made.

@iThink man, if i am feeding the outbreak by asking an op/ed out of yall. this virus is alot more virulent than we can even imagine

@CuriousFury Its true that it is very fast-moving. But it is not proven more dangerous than the common flu yet. Some are claiming it is, but they ALL admit to being unable to quantify one variable needed to make that calculation: The number of asymptomatic infections. Some theorize that it is so large that the virus is no more dangerous than the common flu. We can't know yet either way. We will very soon. Plan on getting it, and plan on surviving it. Most of us will never know we had it.

@TimTuolomne mr tim, please can you read my original post and stop pushing selling me on it. i knew it was global as soon as they said chinese new year. i have basic medical understanding of transmission vectors and am not concerned, since my estimates told me 100% back in january.

does the government have the right to strike down congregation for a cold season?

@CuriousFury My apologies, sir.

I think there are circumstances that justify Martial Law. We are not in such a circumstance in my opinion.

@TimTuolomne yeah, i kinda agree with your assessment, but it IS being done. and then there is the stigmatic side through social pressure.

@CuriousFury. Tell me about it! I come from a family of communists, who think I am crazy because I believe in the Constitution. Talk about "virtue signaling," guilt tripping, shaming, slander and intimidation tactics. I endure them any time I have any contact with them

@TimTuolomne yeah im a constitutional libritarian maybe...but in conversation, a contrarian, and no one knows what a contrarian is, so i always get chased to the other side of the playground and the pattern repeats

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Interesting question! Obviously, the line is like a two lane highway, where the solid yellow is on the side the church is driving in. The State can pass into their lane anytime it feels like it, but not the other way around. To the State, the State is god!

dmatic Level 8 Mar 15, 2020

Obviously because the government is elected to govern everyone and make laws.
Your local church is a volunteer organisation that has no say in anyone’s lives outside the small volunteer group that belongs to it.

And thank GOD for that!

@Hanno yeah but the govenment is elected by a coin flip. campaigning just trys to sneak in a two headed coin.

@CuriousFury, the people have way more control over that coin flip than most realize. When you stop being so polite and tolerant, and without slandering anyone speak your truth, and enough people join you, the snakes in the grass will slither away. History shows and endless ebb and flow of evil that surfaces until people speak out.

@TimTuolomne it is because the people do not realize that they do have more control that probably bothers me the most, consider how outspoken a subject it is.

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