I hope we can trust Pence. I'm skeptical, but not 100% either way. These days, its hard to know who to trust, especially in politics.

@Krunoslav Pence is a peacemaker from what I can see. He has been loyal to Trump all along as far as anyone can prove. I suspect he and his wife have had plenty of praying time as they stoically held on for the dragon ride. I'm hoping he comes through but we all have our limitations ... things we simply cannot do. We'll know pretty soon.

@torontogal4388 I think you meant to wrote Pence instead of Biden.

Yes, will see. I think his flight out of the country has been canceled, news came out, so maybe there is more to it. Will have to stay up to date.

Its hard to make a judgement about him, but its very possible he is bought and payed for. Will find out soon enough I guess.

Yes, I think this is election America and many who value liberty would have a hard time fighting what is coming if Biden managed to complete the cue. However I still think Trump will shock everyone on 6th and pull the Trump card. I mean if I (nobody) know about the fraud and who is who and how it was done.... I would be very disappointment if Trump with all his resources and being in the middle of it, only relied on corrupt courts which he must have known will act the way they did. Word on the street is that the counter cou operation is in full swing, ready to January 6th.

I doubt any celebrity or politician who took the vaccine actually took the same one they offer to general public. We have seen fake syringes, we have seen empty ones, we have seen them being given trough the clothes lol

If you think politicians of this caliber are taking the Bill Gate's vaccine, you are missing a lot my friend. They are not, I assure you.

....and there are the German politician scandal from about a decade ago.

In Germany, a Better Vaccine for Politicians?
By Tristana Moore / Berlin Tuesday, Oct. 27, 2009

Critics are calling it a two-tier health system — one for the politically well connected, another for the hoi polloi. As Germany launched its mass-vaccination program against the H1N1 flu virus on Monday, the government found itself fending off accusations of favoritism because it was offering one vaccine believed to have fewer side effects to civil servants, politicians and soldiers, and another, potentially riskier vaccine to everyone else. The government had hoped that Germans would rush to health clinics to receive vaccinations against the rapidly spreading disease, but now rising anger over the different drugs may cause many people to shy away.

Amid growing fears of a possible global flu pandemic, the German government prepared for its mass-vaccination campaign earlier this year by ordering 50 million doses of the Pandemrix vaccine, enough for a double dose for 25 million people, about a third of the population. The vaccine, manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline, contains an immunity-enhancing chemical compound, known as an adjuvant, whose side effects are not yet entirely known. Then, after a report was leaked to the German media last week, the Interior Ministry confirmed that it had ordered a different vaccine, Celvapan, for government officials and the military. Celvapan, which is made by U.S. pharmaceutical giant Baxter, does not contain an adjuvant and is believed to have fewer side effects than Pandemrix.

Anger at the news was widespread in Germany. "If mass vaccination is considered to be necessary, then everyone should be treated the same way," says Birgitt Bender, health spokeswoman for the Green Party. Ulrike Mascher, head of the VdK social-welfare association, says giving government officials a vaccine that's different from that given to the rest of the population sent the "wrong signal" and gives many people "the impression that they are second-class patients." A story on the front page of the mass-circulation Bild newspaper accused the government of giving "second-class medicine" to regular Germans.

Doctors and medical experts are divided over the safety of Pandemrix. While some say it's the best vaccine available, others have serious misgivings about it. "The Pandemrix vaccine can't be recommended for pregnant women or young children because it has an increased risk of side effects. Pandemrix has an adjuvant which hasn't been tested sufficiently up until now," Alexander Kekulé, a virologist at the University of Halle, tells TIME. "Celvapan is a whole-virus vaccine, which has fewer side effects than Pandemrix, but it leads more often to fever or local swelling when compared with the normal seasonal-flu vaccine," he adds. Although Kekulé calls the government's handling of the vaccination program a "scandal," he says government officials and soldiers are not necessarily getting a better deal with Celvapan. "Neither Celvapan nor Pandemrix are ideal," he says.

The Interior Ministry hit back at suggestions of preferential treatment, saying it had ordered about 200,000 doses of the Celvapan vaccine from Baxter before the differences between the two vaccines were documented, and the government was bound by the terms of its contract. The government also points out that both Pandemrix and Celvapan have been approved by the European Union and that other countries, such as Britain and Sweden, are using the Pandemrix vaccine. In an attempt to put a lid on the simmering controversy, Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman, Ulrich Wilhelm, said the German leader would consult with her doctor in the next few days, and if she decided to receive a jab, it would be Pandemrix.

At least 26,000 people have been infected with swine flu in Germany, resulting in three deaths. Although the majority of patients have experienced only mild flulike symptoms, a steady increase in the number of cases of H1N1 in recent months has raised alarm across the nation. In its latest report, the Robert Koch Institute, the federal agency for infectious diseases, said new cases in Germany have jumped to about 1,600 each week, double the 700 to 800 weekly cases reported in early autumn. With the onset of winter, when seasonal-flu infections typically peak, many experts are concerned that H1N1 infections will spike dramatically. Klaus Osterrieder, a virologist at the Free University of Berlin, now fears that with the worries over the possible risks associated with Pandemrix, many people will avoid getting a vaccine altogether. According to a survey conducted on Oct. 23 by the Emnid Institute, only 13% of Germans said they wanted to receive a swine-flu vaccine this winter.

"The public debate is bad because it raises questions about the whole vaccination program," Osterrieder says. If the government doesn't find some way to remedy the current public relations disaster and clear up the confusion over the different swine-flu vaccines, it could be faced with an even greater emergency, especially if the country's hospital wards start overflowing with flu patients in the coming months.

"Will January 6 give any real indication of Pence's loyalty (or lack thereof) to Trump? I doubt it. Unless he does something explicitly pro or anti-establishment or comes out with an explicit statement in either direction, there will probably be a simpler, more plausible explanation for whatever happens."

Pence could choose which electors he accept and therefore side with Biden or Trump. Its a critical moment.

"If Biden is inaugurated, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the Trump/Pence ticket is back in 2024."

If Biden is in, you will probably see full communist takeover. I don't think you appreciate the seriousness of the problem , this is a cue and at the same time Great Reset and many changes that follow it are on the horizon and a lot of that success deepens weather Biden is in office or not. This is not some general election.... it is far more significant. For everyone. You and me as well.

@Krunoslav You have a point about the communist takeover... I'm not sure whether that's Biden's thing exactly, but I don't think it matters. He doesn't have what it takes to stand up against those who are pulling his strings.

When it comes to the dueling electors, I'm not familiar enough with the proper process to really know just how much power Pence will have over what happens with those. You may be right.

I think there's trouble ahead for USA no matter what happens.

@DaveO276 Well, Pence will be officially one to choose which of the dueling electors he will choose to be the official ones? For Biden or For Trump. So he will have unusual and powerful position to do a lot of damage to Trump or to Biden team. That is why all eyes are on him trying to figure out, can he be trusted.

As for takeover.... if you have some time I would suggest this video.... it points out to deep shenanigans that might be happening bellow the surface of what is covered on mainstream media.

Either way, will find out in about a week or so.

Revenge Of The Kraken!

@DaveO276 I don't think it matters one iota what Biden's thing is. He was installed for the simple reason he will be a patsy to control.