21.05.30.0810Su COLLECTIVISM = SOCIALISM and/or SOCIALISM = COLLECTIVISM! AND either is the enemy of Individual Liberty. The United States of America was quite literally founded on the suppression of collectivism therefore the suppression of socialism as well.
The greater good CANNOT take president over liberty if the individual – to do so is to render the Constitution of the United States null & void. The founding fathers wrote the Constitution to limit democratic tyranny of the individual. The question they face was how to formulate a government with the LEAST democracy & the MOST individual liberty at the same time such is the complexity of the Constitution of the United States – quite a dilemma they had! Collectivist thinking has been at war with Individual Liberty ever since.
To make matters even worse, Collectivist/Socialist thinking is the very hereditary (maternal) instinct women are literally born with through no fault of their own. It expresses itself from the natural nesting instinct all the way to “No Child Left Behind.”
It is extremely difficult to chance upon a woman that can or does hold her natural Collect/Socialist tendencies in check – regardless they’ll always be lurking in the recesses of her psyche!
For the above reasons, the marriage vows a woman freely takes in reality is a Limited/Conditional contract at its best – or worst depending on how your looking at it. Once she is with child those vows she took to love honor & cherish till death do part are transferred from her husband to that child he & she brought into this world. Not so for her husband who becomes an extraneous part of the family unit if allowed to be part at all.
Men are not dogs bound in servitude by marriage contracts used and abused then to be discarded as any other shrub. Men are quite literally the source of new life that can’t come into being without them. Even the word FATHER at its root means Life Giver. - that is why I have aversion to its use as a religious title (but that’s another matter). Whereas, in this abuse of Man, a woman makes of herself a succubus – a literal female demon.
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Genesis 2: 18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. (kjv)
Genesis 2: 22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
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Calling attention special attention to Genesis 2:24 (with the rest cited above for context) where it states: “………..and they shall become one flesh.” Why don’t I see reciprocity coming from woman towards man? Has this been dulled or extinguished in woman by feminism? I speak of 80% of divorces being initiated by women – would could they do the same to a child born to them? Can you not see the devastation male abuse reeks upon men at the behest of feminism?
Men are just as much a part of the family unit as women even as much as children. This is why feminism is accurately described as misandrous man hating. BUT, BACK TO THE ORIGINAL TOPIC: Socialism & Collectivism are one and the same thing for all intent & purposes.
PS. As frightening as Capitalism may be to some (I’ll leave it to you to figure out who?) it is the harsh reality of being Individually Free – the price of Liberty as it were.
Posted by: Academy of Ideas ~ Dec 30, 2017
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.To make matters even worse, Collectivist/Socialist thinking is the very hereditary (maternal) instinct women are literally born with through no fault of their own. It expresses itself from the natural nesting instinct all the way to “No Child Left Behind.”
Granted, modern feminism (1) has done a real number on the psyche of women, driving them into unprecedented levels of anxiety and depression as they are repeatedly messaged that to be a modern woman is to live life like a man: to put in long hours at the office, to sleep around with random strangers, to let strangers raise her brood for her, and to constantly criticize and denounce the very masculinity that so many of them have been told is toxic, yet they find themselves guiltily attracted to.
How absurd, at face value: to be a woman and be shamed by other women into feeling guilty about BEING a woman. To be denounced for thinking that a woman is more than just a social construct. To be openly mocked for wanting to be a homemaker and a mother instead of dying at your desk in your 40s at the end of a 80-hour week.
But having said that, to be a woman is not to be inherently collectivist or socialist. I don't know if you've ever been around a group of women, but here's a dirty little secret: they all secretly hate each other. No woman wants to share anything with other women; they all want to be Queen Bee of the hive. They want - and believe they deserve - that top tier guy, even if they themselves have little to nothing to offer in return. Every women believes her pussy is absolutely magic and it's the best damn pussy you will ever have, bar none.
But at the same time, they need validation; they need emotional support. And that might mean that you absolutely hate that bitch, Becky, but she's still part of your "posse." (2) So there's always this little game of oneupmanship that plays out when you have a gaggle of women. The only time that gets toned down - to little surprise - is when they have a man. Of sure, she'll scratch your eyes out if you look at her man a little too long, but she isn't going to sabotage your pursuit of a man once she has her own. Unless, of course, she's got it in her head that she deserves an upgrade, but that's something that has largely coincided with the rise of 3rd+ wave feminism, which treats emotional connections as unimportant to women - which women inherently know is a bald-faced lie - yet they don't want to be thought of as "settling" by their peers. Which is ironic, since once she moves on, at least one of her girlfriends is going to take a run at the very guy they convinced her she was "settling" with.
And people wonder why women constantly say they'd rather work for a man than a woman. It's because of shit like that.
So no, I must disagree with the idea that women are inherently collectivist/socialist; if anything, they are petty tyrants who want what they want and until they have what they want don't give two shits if other women don't have a damn thing.
And no, I'm not a misogynist nor a MGTOW. I loved my wife dearly and despite her being gone for many years now, I still do. What I am is someone whose been around women long enough to actually have some understanding of how they operate. What I'm saying is not to be hurtful, but to speak to truth, which is the last thing a woman wants a man to hear: the truth. Because women KNOW they are nuts. They know they are emotionally-charged bundles of nerves who are constantly dealing with conflicting emotions that they can't just lock down the way men can, except with the frequent application of chocolate which gives them a serotonin burst and sugar high and quiets things down for a little while. But they will never tell YOU that, so I am.
(1) And by modern feminism, I mean specifically 3rd+ wave feminism that evolved out of the movement achieving the original goals of feminism and found itself left with nothing to do except invent reasons why women are more oppressed than ever. Why? Because there's money in hustling oppression & victimization. Go look at the billions BLM has taken in without having to do ANYTHING in return.
(2) Of course, Becky thinks you're part of her posse, but that's beside the point.
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All I can say to this "rant" indicates that you hang with some pretty low life women. I have of course seen this behavior, but not amongst the main circles I travel in throughout a diverse life. Women who have moral fiber would defy much of what you have said. Moral fiber is the lacking ingredient. If anything, the third wave feminism is a construct that has destroyed both men and women. Women have become voracious narcisists with the bullshit propaganda "girl power", while the men have become irresponsible adult-sized children. Society is in self-destruct mode and we're all suffering.
Children raised in a male hating society without the benefit of both parents go on to distort these realities further. Both parents are essential to the development of the child into a functioning adult. The mother represents nurture and comfort, while the father represents the cold harsh realities of life along with the protectiveness of a caring defender. Both are deeply necessary to the child. Parents as a cohesive unit are empowering while warring parents corrupt their offspring ability to function fully in life.
All I can say to this "rant" indicates that you hang with some pretty low life women. I have of course seen this behavior,
Georgia, it's a bit unkind to suggest that I'm ranting, but then in the next breath confirm that you have seen what I'm describing firsthand. I'm certainly not ranting against women in general - or telling lies - and tried to make that point clear towards the very end. If my words have given you offense I can only express regret for that, because it wasn't my intent.
Women who have moral fiber would defy much of what you have said. Moral fiber is the lacking ingredient. If anything, the third wave feminism is a construct that has destroyed both men and women. Women have become voracious narcisists with the bullshit propaganda "girl power", while the men have become irresponsible adult-sized children. Society is in self-destruct mode and we're all suffering.
I don't see myself disagreeing with any part of this. I thought I was pretty clear that I was pinning the responsibility for much of what I describe to 3rd+ wave feminism and how it's really done a number on women and how they view what it means to be a woman. Or as my wife once questioned, "What good is it to tell me I have the right to choose, if I'm only allowed to choose what feminism approves of?"
Of course, it has also done a number on men as well, but only from the perspective that men have spent centuries trying to understand what will please women. I think it's fair to say that have been so vilified by feminism at this point that it's driven men into paralysis regarding relationships, which in turn, has led to even further vilification.
Children raised in a male hating society without the benefit of both parents go on to distort these realities further. Both parents are essential to the development of the child into a functioning adult. The mother represents nurture and comfort, while the father represents the cold harsh realities of life along with the protectiveness of a caring defender. Both are deeply necessary to the child. Parents as a cohesive unit are empowering while warring parents corrupt their offspring ability to function fully in life.
Again, I cannot dispute anything you say here. I had thought about branching my original comment into a discussion about the importance of faith in establishing the family unit, but that was a tangent that had nothing to do with disputing the argument that women are naturally collectivists/socialists.
And if I'm being fair, even women of high moral fiber do not easily share. There is none of this, "It takes a village to raise a child," crap that Hillary Clinton tried to push. They are the undisputed masters of their homes and they aren't going to brook any dissent from friend or neighbor alike who tries to tell them how to differently handle their affairs. Even mom herself isn't going to get away with nearly what she used to once daughter has children of her own. Oh sure, women may be the caring nurturer in the parental relationship when the situation allows for it, but do not back a lioness in a cave when she's protecting her cubs or you are going to be very, very sorry.
@Alysandir Its OK, Alysandir. My concern was the overall characterization of women which, you have to admit was rather petty and in fact offensive to many of us. I realize that we do agree on many points and clearly place the blame at the feet of third wave feminism.
Hilary, quite clearly is a Marxist. The BS of the village is classic marixism and highly offensive.
All in all, my objection was more the use of a broad brush, damning womanhood in general. Damn brushes anyway LMAO
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