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“No man can be a good citizen unless he has a wage more than sufficient to cover the bare cost of living, and hours of labor short enough so after his day's work is done he will have time and energy to bear his share in the management of the community, to help in carrying the general load.

I am an American; free born and free bred, where I acknowledge no man as my superior, except for his own worth, or as my inferior, except for his own demerit.

Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.

Here is your country. Cherish these natural wonders, cherish the natural resources, cherish the history and romance as a sacred heritage, for your children and your children's children. Do not let selfish men or greedy interests skin your country of its beauty, its riches or its romance. To waste, to destroy our natural resources, to skin and exhaust the land instead of using it so as to increase its usefulness, will result in undermining in the days of our children the very prosperity which we ought by right to hand down to them amplified and developed.

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first and love of soft living and the get-rich-quick theory of life. To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society. A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad.

Our aim is not to do away with corporations; on the contrary, these big aggregations are an inevitable development of modern industrialism, and the effort to destroy them would be futile unless accomplished in ways that would work the utmost mischief to the entire body politic. We can do nothing of good in the way of regulating and supervising these corporations until we fix clearly in our minds that we are not attacking the corporations, but endeavoring to do away with any evil in them. We are not hostile to them; we are merely determined that they shall be so handled as to subserve the public good. We draw the line against misconduct, not against wealth.

No man can be a good citizen unless he has a wage more than sufficient to cover the bare cost of living, and hours of labor short enough so after his day's work is done he will have time and energy to bear his share in the management of the community, to help in carrying the general load.

Americanism means the virtues of courage, honor, justice, truth, sincerity, and hardihood the virtues that made America. The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living and the get-rich-quick theory of life.

A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user.

― Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)

"Wide differences of opinion in matters of religious, political, and social belief must exist if conscience and intellect alike are not to be stunted, if there is to be room for healthy growth. No man should be above the law, and no man should be below it. I am a strong individualist by personal habit, inheritance, and conviction; but it is a mere matter of common sense to recognize that the State, the community, the citizens acting together, can do a number of things better than if they were left to individual action. It is true of the Nation, as of the individual, that the greatest doer must also be a great dreamer."

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

― Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (1858 – 1919) was an American statesman, politician, conservationist, naturalist, and writer who served as the 26th president of the United States from 1901 to 1909.

“I realize that what happened in Bosnia could happen anywhere in the world, particularly in places that are diverse and have a history of conflict. It only takes bad leadership for a country to go up in flames, for people of different ethnicity, color, or religion to kill each other as if they had nothing in common whatsoever. Having a democratic constitution, laws that secure human rights, police that maintain order, a judicial system, and freedom of speech don't ultimately guarantee long lasting peace. If greedy or bloodthirsty leaders come to power, it can all go down. It happened to us. It can happen to you.” ― Savo Heleta, Not My Turn to Die: Memoirs of a Broken Childhood in Bosnia

"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all ... The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic ... There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else." - Theodore Roosevelt

"In Russia, lives Russians. Any minority from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian law. If they want Sharia Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russia does not need minorities, minorities needs Russia, and we will not grant them special privilege, or try to change our laws to fit their desires,
no matter how loud they yell "Discrimination". "

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I see Putin exactly the same way I see Trump, or Reagan, or.....Roosevelt. They put their country FIRST and stood/stand by it. Because we have geopolitical differences doesn't mean I can't respect Putin's leadership. Is it corrupt and deadly? Sure, but EVERY solid leader of ANY country right now, can/and probably is, guilty.

My stand is that every person has exactly the same rights (and responsibilities) that I claim for myself.

If people think I support Putin because of the above, so be it. I'd rather support MY President, but I stand aside at this time on that....

Putin is more similar to Roosevelt in terms of states craft and historic thinking, than Trump or Reagan were, because sadly for everyone American leadership has gotten worse and worse in standards over the years. After all both Trump and Reagan went from show business into politics, while Roosevelt and Putin did not. This is reflected in their policies and rhetoric.

Reagan was a mix bag of making some good and some very bad decisions during his career and same could be said for Putin , but I think Reagan was better prepared for the position of president than Trump was, who almost by accident found himself at the right time in the wrong place.

Trump made endless number of mistakes in his policies , its staggering when you look back on it, but he did several things that were extremely important. He shook up the stale corrupt system run by various parties that care nothing of nations, the globalists. He forced them to come out of the shadows into lime light for everyone to see. And unavailingly he bought time to others , including Russia to wiggle themselves out of the boot of US hegemony , just enough to start fortifying. In the long run this is best for everyone but the globalists and their cronies.

What thing that has been a persistent problem for America and by extension of US dollar much of the world is the ever more growing dept and inflation because of endless money printing for the elites to finance their globalists projects.

Under Reagan this was done but it was continued and accelerated under every American president and got exponentially worse, Trump was no exception. Comparatively speaking Putin understood that his oil and gas and other commodities are more powerful than ones and zeros FED mouse clicks to create trillions out of thin air for whatever globalist project it needs to. And this is proving to be so decisive that the balance of power is shifting globally and instead of new world order run by globalists as single global government, we are going to old world order, of east vs west, but this time it is west that is in decline and east that is on the rise.

This is bigger than cold war or end of cold war, for world affairs. This is up there with WWII level changes.

I'm afraid that western elites have fortified themselves so heavily that they will continue to persecute dissidents and turn more and more totalitarian as long as they can print money out of thin air. Once the printing machine runs out of proverbial ink, that regime will not survive it, because they depend on it too much for everything.

All the military funding, all the bribes, regime changes, debt and disaster capitalism, green stuff they push , social programs, systemic corruption, all is funded by worthless fiat that FED creates out of thin air. You take that golden goose that lays those golden eggs and this regime has nothing else to barging with people and other countries. And they will collapse.

What replaces that regime , its hard to say. Could be better could be even worse, but this regime will not survive. They are so ideologically driven that they are blind to the fact that they are killing the host that they depend on to live.

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Theodore Roosevelt, Jr was a Major General in the United States Army who died of a heart attack on the eve of his elevation to command a division against the Nazis in WWII. It was his father who was the Statesman.

Was it? I think they are both Jr. one is II, and other III.

Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (/ˈroʊzəvɛlt/ ROH-zə-velt;[b] October 27, 1858 – January 6, 1919), often referred to as Teddy or by his initials, T. R., was an American politician, statesman, soldier, conservationist, naturalist, historian, and writer who served as the 26th president of the United States from 1901 to 1909. He previously served as the 25th vice president under President William McKinley from March to September 1901 and as the 33rd governor of New York from 1899 to 1900. Having assumed the presidency after McKinley's assassination, Roosevelt emerged as a leader of the Republican Party and became a driving force for anti-trust and Progressive policies.

[en.wikipedia.org]

Brigadier General Theodore Roosevelt III[1] (September 13, 1887 – July 12, 1944) [Note 1] was an American government, business, and military leader. He was the eldest son of President Theodore Roosevelt and First Lady Edith Roosevelt. Roosevelt is known for his World War II service, including the directing of troops at Utah Beach during the Normandy landings, for which he received the Medal of Honor.

[en.wikipedia.org].

@Krunoslav I stand corrected. The military sources all called Gen Roosevelt, "Teddy Junior."

@FuzzyMarineVet I imagine because the father of Theodore Roosevelt, Jr the first is less known, than Theodore Roosevelt, Jr himself, so his son than becomes the Jr. even if technically he is the third in line. I think its just easier for people to see him as son of a great president, than remember the roman numerals. And probably once it catches on, no one thinks of numerals anymore.

@Krunoslav I recall that George Smith Patton, Jr. was actually the third of that name in the Virginia Patton Clan, but his father, George Smith Patton, II, appended the Junior to the grandson of George Smith Patton, I. So it does get extremely confusing.

@FuzzyMarineVet True. Not common here in Croatia, its more of an Anglo-sphere thing I guess.

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The common denominator is a good one, said on the one had by a Statesman, and on the other, by
a KGB operative at heart.

I think you are wrong. Putin is better statesmen than anything America had to offer since Theodore. Americans never understood Russia and they still don't. In fact most Americans don't even understand America, much less anything outside of its borders. Re-Examine your reasoning and ask yourself where do you get information about Russia and Putin?

@Krunoslav

Respectfully, what news sources would pass scrutiny? If you are of a mind that any source that would portray Putin as the killer that he is, is by definition suspect, there's no point in discussing this.

And this has nothing to do with Ukraine.

And this in no way glosses over the crimes current members of our government are undoubtedly guilty of. Making jokes about the "late friends" of Bill and Hillary has become almost a cottage industry. But of course it isn't limited to them by a long shot.

And it has nothing to do with the false charges made against Russia to buttress false charges made against President Trump by a well-named "deep state."

You're aware of the "war" that's been declared on Republicans by this President. Clean hands are a rarity.

I stand by my statement.

@Terence57 All I can see is that Americans don't get Russia, probably never will. Nor do I see Americans able to see the world that is not American centric.

"If you are of a mind that any source that would portray Putin as the killer that he is, is by definition suspect, there's no point in discussing this."

That statement makes no sense to me. What are you accusing Putin off exactly? What is the context.

"Respectfully, what news sources would pass scrutiny?"

Oh, I don't know, how about any sources that are not in the US political sphere of influence. Russian Man Bad story is getting as warn out as Orange Man Bad.

How about The Duran, Mark Sleboda, Maria Dubovikova, Moon of Alabama, The Sirius Report, The Grayzone, Max Blumenthal, Academic Agent, or even American ones like Caitlin Johnstone, Robert Barnes, Auron MacIntyre, TheDreizinReport etc.

@Krunoslav I love to listen to Robert Barnes and his liberty loving Canadian transplant to Florida partner in Vlawging in Rumble, David Freiheit. We get the solid legal basis for liberty.

@Krunoslav
The world IS American centric, and has been for a long time. When my wife and I were in France in the mid-90's, you know what was on every station?

The OJ Trial.

Now, I have no problem w/ your views. None. But to compare Teddy to Vlad is a comparison I can't take seriously.

I thought about listing stories of Putin's political adversaries being removed or killed, but what's the point? The stories go across a wide spectrum of sources and are easy to find.

BTW,, I never made this about Russia or the Russian Mind. Nor am I separating Putin from Russia.
What I am saying is that Putin, however much he cares about Russia, and in his way he does, he's also cut from KGB whole cloth. He ain't Teddy Roosevelt.

Again, the sentiments of both are "noble," but I draw a line at comparisons of the sources.

I respect your informed view. I just don't agree with it. And because I respect your perspective, I accept that we are not going to come to an understanding, here.

T

@Terence57 I respect your informed view. I just don't agree with it. And because I respect your perspective, I accept that we are not going to come to an understanding, here.

T

Fair enough. I respect your opinion as well, but not the information you present, that is at best incomplete4, taken out of context of simply not true. I guess we can agree to disagree, although I feel I should point out for other readers where I disagree.

"The world IS American centric, and has been for a long time. When my wife and I were in France in the mid-90's, you know what was on every station?"

Well that's my point. World in not as it was in the 1990's and Americans better start paying attention to the rest of the world, because average American is so lost in the new world, its not even funny. This is also true for the boomer generation that grew up during cold war and never matured. There are exceptions off curse.

"Now, I have no problem w/ your views. None. But to compare Teddy to Vlad is a comparison I can't take seriously."

That's because you lack understanding of Russian history and global history as well, especially from perspective that is not American centric. Putin has done more for Russia and more for the changes in the world on global level than Roosevelt did. I respect Roosevelt, but in terms of significance of achievements, and longevity, indeed they don't compare.

"I thought about listing stories of Putin's political adversaries being removed or killed, but what's the point? The stories go across a wide spectrum of sources and are easy to find."

Yes, they come from same sources that claim he has cancer every week. Seriously, I'm not joking. Same sources. But once again, I don't expect you to look past the headlines. If you buy into those stories I have a property on Snake Island to sell you. Just saying.

"What I am saying is that Putin, however much he cares about Russia, and in his way he does, he's also cut from KGB whole cloth. He ain't Teddy Roosevelt."

True, he is not Teddy Roosevelt., historically he is more important figure.

As for the KGB, I guess I should stick to low expectations and don't expect you to look into what that really meant in practice. He was a layer trained by an arm of KGB in a time when that was practically the only place where you can get training. He was stationed in East Germany, speaks German, he was not a field agent, in fact he was not agent at all, he was administrator and unlike those that were taking advantage of that position, like many, he remained uncorrupted. Later this will be important.

In May 1990, Putin was appointed as an advisor on international affairs to the mayor of Leningrad Anatoly Sobchak. In a 2017 interview with Oliver Stone, Putin said that he resigned from the KGB in 1991, following the coup against Mikhail Gorbachev, as he did not agree with what had happened and did not want to be part of the intelligence in the new administration. According to Putin's statements in 2018 and 2021, he may have worked as a private taxi driver to earn extra money, or considered such a job.

On 28 June 1991, he became head of the Committee for External Relations of the Mayor's Office, with responsibility for promoting international relations and foreign investments and registering business ventures. That is how he met incoming western opertunits looking to pillage what's left of Russia.

Seing the sorry state Russia was in in the 1990's something Americans will experiance, soon enough, he looked towards the west to make Russia NATO member and closer ties to Europe isntead of China. It was the US neocons and globalists that prevented that. Following the old recepie . Keep Russia out of Europe, America in, Germany down. This is never more evident than now.

On 9 August 1999, Putin was appointed one of three first deputy prime ministers, and later on that day, was appointed acting prime minister of the Government of the Russian Federation by President Yeltsin. Yeltsin also announced that he wanted to see Putin as his successor. Later on that same day, Putin agreed to run for the presidency

He was given opportunity because he was efficient administrator known not to be corrupted in a sea of corruption. He is cunning and competent, but not corrupted. That is why they chosen him, because when everyone was stealing from Russia he was not getting rich, so they gave him a shot at running the office.

The propaganda about hims having trillions of dollars is as convincing as Snake Island stories and that he has cancer , or several oft them.

Before you ask, the reason why he stayed in office for so long is because of the Soviet Union history of Russia that he knows well enough. If he steps down with no suitable replacement, he would be killed and Russia pillaged. When he wanted to quite, NATO moved on Ukraine, hence he could not leave country without protection and stability from NATO infiltration or they would make sure he is eliminated.

Furthermore, you should read his speeches and compare it to historic events that he either warned about, predicted or was involved in. Than you might understand that Russian man is not that bad. And historically and geopolitically is a more significant figure than Roosevelt. I don't speak ill of Roosevelt here, but I am trying to point out that world is not America. World is much bigger place and perhaps after the fall of American Empire that is already in process, some Americans will start to pay attention.

@Krunoslav
Gracious of you to expand on your points. Although I'm going to put this to bed (for now), you might be surprised at how much you said resonates not only w/ me, but with a huge portion of Americans.

That we are currently in steep decline is not in doubt. The next several months are crucial.

And the whole Ukraine thing never had to happen. And no, I'm not blaming Russia---or even Putin.

Another time for that.

Best, T

@Terence57 Cheers!

@Krunoslav I'm beginning to wonder if there is such a thing as "Chance."

A friend of mine shared this with me and, for obvious reasons, I thought of this conversation.

Best, T

[consortiumnews.com]

@Terence57 "“What happened no longer mattered. Balanced sourcing no longer mattered. Accuracy no longer mattered. The work of witnessing no longer mattered. Conformity mattered.”"

Good article, that quote pretty much says it all. Not to mention that most of the media is either corporate media like for example Bloomberg, Washington post, New York Times etc, and same could be said for so called conservative outlets. They ponder to their selective audiences, the already established and divisive narratives. At least domestically. While on forign policy there is very little disagreements. Neo liberals or neoconservatives, Russian Man Bad. One has to reach out to alternative independent sources.

As additional notes. Washington Times owned by Amazon's Jeff Bazos who is deeply connected with exclusive contracts with the US intelligence services, essentially deep state, has become their mouth piece. So when you read something in Washingnote Post you know it’s the neocons’ wing of the deep state that is speaking through it. its their press release. New York Times is more about domestic issues, but the same thing. Politico, Bloomberg, The Atlantic, same thing. Even bunch of outlets on the so called conservative side like RedState, that is owned by the Salem Media Group, a conservative media company, Additionally, Salem owns conservative websites Townhall.com, RedState, Hot Air, and PJ Media, as well as Twitter aggregator Twitchy. And they all speak with one voice to targeted audience. Domestically they are pro trump usually , anti democrats, but forign policy is classical anti Russia story. So one must be careful.

I.g. NY Times, WaPo national security reporters serve at pro-war Pentagon-funded think tank
Dan Cohen·August 9, 2021

The Center for New American Security provides residencies to top national security correspondents while raking in massive funding from the arms industry, Pentagon and State Department.

This was originally published by Behind The Headlines at Mint Press News

[thegrayzone.com]

@Terence57 Mainstream news sources are mostly politically leaning towards the left and their counterparts on the right are often just reacting to the left. So you get a kind of he said, she said noise.

"The morality of journalists (a loose term these days) have only themselves to blame for the uptick in animosity. Journalism as an industry lacks integrity yet journalist still fancy themselves as noble souls and herdsmen of truth. The whole industry is incredibly pretentious. Now every hipster with a MacBook and a WordPress account is a journalist ranting about integrity. Integrity? Hipsters do love irony. Poorly written dredge, injected with biased opinions, financed by advertisers, and sourced on Twitter. Why should we be surprised journalists don’t want their dirt available for public consumption; why jeopardize the very profitable relationships these “news” outlets have established that ensure journalists are in the pocket of advertisers. There is a lot of money to be made, just not by reporting news."

  • Jordan Colaruotolo · System Security and Administration Specialist at SEC & DOJ Contractor
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    There is so much to be said in favor of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated it keeps us in touch with ignorance of the community. The difference between literature and journalism is that journalism is unreadable and literature is not read. —Oscar Wilde (1854–1900)
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    "I know the British press is very attached to the lobby system. It lets the journalists and the politicians feel proud of their traditional freedoms while giving the reader as much of the truth as they think is good for him." — Tom Stoppard, Mageeba, Act II
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    “You don't realize how little accuracy there is in network TV reporting until they cover a story in your hometown.” ―Robert Brault
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    One sign of good journalism is that it questions the prevailing narrative. Common knowledge is mostly wrong because it tends to drift downstream towards simplistic narratives that are emotionally appealing. That is why whenever a topic about which you have deep knowledge is portrayed in the popular culture it always seems simplistic to the point of being wrong, full of tropes and common misconceptions.

An investigative journalist, however, should dig beneath the surface. They should talk to experts, especially those who have reason to doubt the narrative, and find out what the consensus of expert opinion is. They could also try to explain the narrative – why do people believe X when experts say Y?

@Krunoslav Yep. Am familiar w/ all the aforementioned owners and their echo chambers.

Discernment is gained over time and experience.
You are, no doubt, familiar with Walter Duranty?

Since the author of the article is mostly talking about HIS OWN experience, I didn't really expect him to mention him. As well, a quick column by Bernard Goldberg illustrated the unholy relationship that CNN had with (Saddam's) Iraq just so it could maintain exclusivity there.

I'm too well aware of the agenda driven reporting. Everyone has a "hook."

@Terence57 Actually I was not familiar with Walter Duranty name, but I was aware of misreporting of Soviet Union practices by the western media. yes.

@Krunoslav Duranty was so awful that PJ's (I think it's them) created a category called
"The Duranty Awards."

As you probably surmised, they give it to the most journalistic ass-licking of dictators, etc.

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