Resettled Refugees Grow Population in Shrinking Cities - CityLab

govols comments on Sep 25, 2019:

Manufacturing exported, prosperity extracted, middle class reduced to desperately leaving towns their ancestors built, refugees in their own nation, the steel crescent reduced to rust, thriving cities mere shadows of a former glory, lost, broken. But behold! a second coming! An influx of vibrancy...

govols replies on Sep 25, 2019:

Man, I might be wrong, but thus far no history exists to suggest that a failing empire can sustain itself by inviting and embracing an invasion by a multicult of foreigners. Cultures don't perpetuate amid onsloughts of mass migrations. Can you show me an example otherwise?

Our media is utterly corrupt.

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 25, 2019:

He violates campaign finance laws at minimum. That's what Cohen was convicted of doing at his behest and it seems to be what he was about to order Giuliani to do in Ukraine. But he seems to be immune from any penalties unless Congress chooses to impeach.

govols replies on Sep 25, 2019:

An early step in a criminal trial is a motion to dismiss the case on grounds that the prosecutors really have no case of law. No finding of fact was ever made by a judge or a jury that a hush payments NOT FROM CAMPAIGN FUNDS is a violation of campaign law, nor that the money Cohen distributed came either from campaign funds, of from money that would otherwise have been contributed to the campaign. I've found no citation anywhere that similar previos behavior has been demonstrated through rulings or verdicts to violate campaign finance law.

Here’s The Transcript Of Trump’s Call With The Ukrainian President | The Daily Caller

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 25, 2019:

Do you have any problems with the following facts: 1. The investigation is not founded on any facts, 2. The investigation was going to involve campaign staff?

govols replies on Sep 25, 2019:

What investigation are you saying isn't based on any facts? A Ukraine corruption investigation? An investigation into Ukraine entities involved in 2016 election related internet activity?

Our media is utterly corrupt.

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 25, 2019:

He violates campaign finance laws at minimum. That's what Cohen was convicted of doing at his behest and it seems to be what he was about to order Giuliani to do in Ukraine. But he seems to be immune from any penalties unless Congress chooses to impeach.

govols replies on Sep 25, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles It doesn't result in a judgement of the merits of the decision to prosecute, or that the behavior of the accused was in actual violation of law.

Our media is utterly corrupt.

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 25, 2019:

He violates campaign finance laws at minimum. That's what Cohen was convicted of doing at his behest and it seems to be what he was about to order Giuliani to do in Ukraine. But he seems to be immune from any penalties unless Congress chooses to impeach.

govols replies on Sep 25, 2019:

Cohen wasn't convicted; he plead guilty to a behavior that has never been demonstrated in court to even be a violation of law.

I am retirement age.

Raphio comments on Sep 23, 2019:

Gee thanks, boomer

govols replies on Sep 23, 2019:

Don't blame boomers. They weren't exposed to the classics in their youth. On purpose. Boomers were victims of propaganda driven marketing toward demand based consumerist economic theory. And Blank Slate theory. Egalitarianism and materialism. The pursuit of happiness was taught to them as keeping up with the gadget culture rather than the disciplined striving toward virtuous being. They were conned. On purpose. The boomers were ambushed by marketing and consumerism in their formative years and didn't realize that 1.2 kids and a mortgage at 60 didn't provide the joyous elder years their grandparents enjoyed spoiling and mentoring a future generation toward... Time will tell.

I am retirement age.

SpikeTalon comments on Sep 23, 2019:

Another revolution could be in the works down the road...

govols replies on Sep 23, 2019:

Another revolution is always in the works.

PragerU relies on a veneer of respectability to obscure its propagandist mission | Media Matters for...

govols comments on Sep 19, 2019:

Media Matters is going to criticize another for propaganda? Really?

govols replies on Sep 19, 2019:

So, in the fine print, at the bottom of the page...v the huge fucking intro banner on every video they present? Are you honestly saying an average viewer would mistake their content for academic university lecture?

PragerU relies on a veneer of respectability to obscure its propagandist mission | Media Matters for...

govols comments on Sep 19, 2019:

Media Matters is going to criticize another for propaganda? Really?

govols replies on Sep 19, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles No, actually, it literally calls itself Prager U, and presents to anyone of barely average or above intelligence as an advocacy campaign for a version of conservative ideology.

PragerU relies on a veneer of respectability to obscure its propagandist mission | Media Matters for...

govols comments on Sep 19, 2019:

Media Matters is going to criticize another for propaganda? Really?

govols replies on Sep 19, 2019:

Prager U is as up front and blatant about its strain of "conservatism" as any media is about its ideology.

Pew Research Center has a good article and graphic showing the evolution of the U.

SpikeTalon comments on Sep 13, 2019:

Can't say I agree with fewer Americans have mixed political beliefs, libertarianism is on the rise, and most libertarians are fiscally/economically conservative (also when it comes to constitutional rights) and socially liberal (issues like gay rights, abortion, keeping religion out of politics ...

govols replies on Sep 13, 2019:

I've seen and heard many "red pill" stories, and most seem to tell of being young liberals who ease through libertarian on their way toward pretty radical right. I've also noticed many "White identity" types find that path through diversity training. The left is driving the middle right to the far right, and dragging the middle left further left. What that's doing is flattening the distribution and converting what used to be tails on each end of the curve into cliffs. You can only go so far to either extreme before your ready to just start burning people.

I'm pretty sure the culture war is an unintentional proxy, and Marx was neither a Marxist nor a ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 12, 2019:

But isn't ownership of "the narrative" also a function of economic power?

govols replies on Sep 12, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles Key word? Who're. Slut. Servile tool. Byline. Everything you read in mainstream media is simulation created for sake of paid provocation. Game of Thrones ain't about the Lord's, but the tools. The sculpted aren't the Kings, but the accidental true believers of lies. The various scapegoaters who spin the yarns that weave the narrative.

I'm pretty sure the culture war is an unintentional proxy, and Marx was neither a Marxist nor a ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 12, 2019:

But isn't ownership of "the narrative" also a function of economic power?

govols replies on Sep 12, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles Robber barons require minions of hired propagandists and administrators.

I'm pretty sure the culture war is an unintentional proxy, and Marx was neither a Marxist nor a ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 12, 2019:

But isn't ownership of "the narrative" also a function of economic power?

govols replies on Sep 12, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles Yep, the modern elite and the new priestly class of propaganda creators and perveyers in academia, media and the administrative state. The ruling class.

Slutty cheerleader gets away with killing her baby. [youtube.com]

JimbobNE comments on Sep 12, 2019:

I wonder where this happened, never heard of it.

govols replies on Sep 12, 2019:

Ohio. Brook Skyler Richardson.

I'm pretty sure the culture war is an unintentional proxy, and Marx was neither a Marxist nor a ...

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 12, 2019:

But isn't ownership of "the narrative" also a function of economic power?

govols replies on Sep 12, 2019:

Nope. I think economic power is more a function of owning the narrative.

Once again... A guy talking about men issue to a girl that will go unheard. [youtu.be]

govols comments on Sep 11, 2019:

Damn.

govols replies on Sep 11, 2019:

Wait...Dear God....damn.

wow CNN did a thing.. [youtu.be]

govols comments on Sep 11, 2019:

Ex-red pill? Somehow I doubt it.

govols replies on Sep 11, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires Seems to me the way out is all in...as far as the rabbit hole goes.

I'm listening in to the Pixies live session on Radio 2 then half way through am subjected to this ...

govols comments on Sep 11, 2019:

I'd like to see the propaganda but youtube ads aren't shared even among people in the same place. They're aimed.

govols replies on Sep 11, 2019:

@acthenpens hay, thanks! I'll check it out after supper.

I'm listening in to the Pixies live session on Radio 2 then half way through am subjected to this ...

govols comments on Sep 11, 2019:

I'd like to see the propaganda but youtube ads aren't shared even among people in the same place. They're aimed.

govols replies on Sep 11, 2019:

@acthenpens Oh, I'll look again. Link th he live show from the proxies?

The greatest thing about living on 3 acres in a community in which the smallest lot is 2 acres, and ...

dmatic comments on Sep 10, 2019:

Just curious, mind you, but, I was wondering how this post appears in the ideas of God thread? Are you implying that God lives in your house but not in those churches you pass?

govols replies on Sep 10, 2019:

Nope, not sure why it's here. It has something to do with living in the country, and toward each of the grocery options I drive past several community churches that combine for fewer total members than congregate at many of the ones in any of the town's I'm driving toward.

John Bolton is out

RobBlair comments on Sep 10, 2019:

He's a good one to hire if you want to provide a voiceless threat against enemies - hawkish and appearing brash

govols replies on Sep 10, 2019:

Yes. His ass in the seat serves as a not-so-subtle threat of belligerence.

Insane.. [washingtonpost.com]

govols comments on Sep 9, 2019:

I'm not sure he was at all insane, honestly. He was certainly a sociopath, but I don't consider that necessarily a defect of mind.

govols replies on Sep 9, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires It's been a long time since I read it, but, yes, a fair bit valid criticism.

Democracy makes a comeback in Brexitland, Parliament re-asserts some sovereignty.

Naomi comments on Sep 5, 2019:

Hello. I thought Labour has been calling for a General Election constantly, but when Boris Johnson actually offered an election, Labour decided against it. I wonder why...? They hate their Prime Minister but they want to keep him for now - until the bill has passed and no-deal Brexit has been ruled ...

govols replies on Sep 5, 2019:

@Naomi That's almost exactly how I watch existence.

Am I right in thinking chuckpo has left...? Why...?

DrN1 comments on Sep 4, 2019:

Maybe he had to get back to the real world!

govols replies on Sep 4, 2019:

I hope that's it.

This might not go so well...

WilyRickWiles comments on Sep 4, 2019:

There may be a lot of guns there, but not a lot of people.

govols replies on Sep 4, 2019:

Yeah, there's a lot of people, too. The question is whether they've bothered to remain neighbors.

Will Britain ever make up its mind on Brexit.

iThink comments on Sep 3, 2019:

The Brits are no more sheepish than are Americans. The people of Great Britain have made up their collective minds about Brexit. The political establishment along with the corrupt BBC and other "news" outlets have done a masterful job of delaying, postponing, hemming and hawing in hopes of finding a...

govols replies on Sep 3, 2019:

Yep.

What do people make of the suspension of parliament to get the enactment of the referendum through?

govols comments on Sep 3, 2019:

From my vantage democracy was done three years ago and the people with power have been obstructing ever since.

govols replies on Sep 3, 2019:

@acthenpens How do we rectify? He'll if I know...

A modern, non-Biblical understanding of the meek inheriting the Earth: what is meek?

camerakid61 comments on Aug 29, 2019:

Nature itself deals out stratification to all species, the high and the low, including us. We don't have to do anything to bring it about. People like Hitler tried that in the past and failed, thank goodness. Stratification is the natural order of the natural world. It just happens by itself. What ...

govols replies on Aug 29, 2019:

Nature deals out stratification, but if our environment changes--the lights go out for a time--the people most adaptable won't be the same as those currently most adapted.

Just as a heads up, all Christians would be wise not to waste their time trying to sell us atheists ...

govols comments on Aug 29, 2019:

Your faith in atheism is so strong that you no longer have doubts?

govols replies on Aug 29, 2019:

@george I'm not sure that's true. The OP said my mind is closed, don't bother with dialogue, such a mindset requires faith, I would think.

This is terrible.

Naomi comments on Aug 29, 2019:

What's happened to common sense? Common sense like "eat well and exercise well". Common sense is something we inherit from our grandparents. Where were the couple's parents (the girl's grandparents)? It's a shame that no one intervened sooner...

govols replies on Aug 29, 2019:

In America, at least, many children barely even ever know their grandparents beyond birthday and holiday trinkets.

This is terrible.

RobBlair comments on Aug 29, 2019:

So there is this thing called the internet. You can type in "Vegan diet for kids" and it tells people to make sure that they provide proper nutrition for their children with a list of foods that are rich in nutrients. Of course vegan anything seems more like a religion to me. I'm OK with people ...

govols replies on Aug 29, 2019:

I have an idea that if humans never utilized dead animals in various ways we'd still be apes.

This is terrible.

KeVince comments on Aug 29, 2019:

I am finding that if it ends in "ism" you should avoid it.

govols replies on Aug 29, 2019:

Or kill it.

It's Time to Disavow and Replace The NRA - The Liberalists

AndrewInVail comments on Aug 27, 2019:

The author makes some good points, but I also have some reservations about others. First of all, I do want the current NRA gone, but not exactly for the reasons stated. I want the current NRA regime gone because they have revealed themselves as completely corrupt and inept. They wastefully and ...

govols replies on Aug 27, 2019:

I'm taking MAD a different way. The point to MAD is that your attempt to "do to me" will result in nothing worth keeping control over. NOTHING. If the general government were to attempt a totalitarian sort of program against the people, MAD commends as counter position that so doing will result in a landscape no sane people would wish to totalitarian over.

What purpose was hell created? Why did God create hell?

Oxfret comments on Aug 26, 2019:

Without one, there cant be the other. To be in existence with balance you need the aposing force. The rules that govern our world need to be followed which means a give and take. He likely could have made neither, or both but not one. When ever posed with the question of good vs evil and why the...

govols replies on Aug 26, 2019:

"I've been thinking about this...a lot! And I still haven't quite got it all put together, but..." I'll mess up the citations and won't try for quotes, but... Aristotle says all human action is aimed at some Good, and Socrates was said to have had a voice in his head that HE LISTENED TO. Genesis says we succumbed to the temptation to learn of Good and Evil, and God said, "What have you done!?!" At some point in prehistory man was a very clever beast in harmony with his own Nature, if not nature itself. At some point "the scales fell from our eyes," and we knew Good from Evil. We got a voice in our heads that tells us "you ought to.." and "you shouldn't." BUT WE FAIL, so often, to listen. Nature is a harsh mistress, but Man creates much more suffering than mom ever could through both intent and negligence. We just don't Fking listen.

Gun control NC has some of the strictest gun laws of the states.

ObiRonMoldy comments on Aug 26, 2019:

So there's a lot in this which I absolutely agree with. I don't believe in a lot of the gun-control ideas that are swirling around the social progressives. But I also don't know that background checks is a bad idea. Personally, I think it's a good idea. A legal gun buyer should have nothing to hide ...

govols replies on Aug 26, 2019:

Background checks would be greatly improved if individuals could register for a PIN, log into the data base on their phone, get their own approval and present it to the seller. At the same time, the seller could log in with his PIN to the data base of lost, stolen, used in crime guns, verify the weapon he is selling isn't on the list, and present that to the buyer. No dealer license required. Such a system would do more to cover private sales than any "universal" system that requires a trip both parties to a dealer. As for stopping tyranny, I point you toward The Battle of Athens, TN...and toward Afghanistan.

The decision of the New York Times editorial team to frame the Presidential race around immigration ...

govols comments on Aug 24, 2019:

The left seem to be in the business of creating right wingers. They just keep pushing a narrative that pushes people to explore the alternatives.

govols replies on Aug 24, 2019:

It's more like they do have free thought, and eventually recognize that much of the bullshit fed to them by the institutional left doesn't comport with reality.

Admin, might it be judicious to go ahead and free Wily?

iThink comments on Aug 22, 2019:

??? are you asking admin to kick WilyRickWiles off the site? If so shame on you. If not then I still want to know what it is you're asking admin to do and why.

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

@iThink I wasn't aware either, but then I was. Free Wily!

Admin, might it be judicious to go ahead and free Wily?

chuckpo comments on Aug 22, 2019:

Do you hit your thumb with a hammer too? Poke yourself in the eye? Dab jalapeno juice on your...?

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

What can I say? He contributes. I'm told the ignore button works, if you wish.

Admin, might it be judicious to go ahead and free Wily?

iThink comments on Aug 22, 2019:

??? are you asking admin to kick WilyRickWiles off the site? If so shame on you. If not then I still want to know what it is you're asking admin to do and why.

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

I'm asking if his suspension might be suspended. Can he be reinstated early, in good faith?

I have been tolerating DJT's antics because of my classical liberal opposition to the regressive ...

RobBlair comments on Aug 22, 2019:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Specifically addressing the anchor baby policy: - It is obvious that encouraging the abuse of our immigration system in this way...

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

It's one of the great legal tragedies: the pragmatism fallacy; sometimes the law, faithfully interpreted and faithfully applied, does not provide justice. Still, ruling in favor of justice where the law is an ass often makes for unjust precedent.

You know, it’s funny.

DesireNoDesires comments on Aug 22, 2019:

When a child grows up constantly moving around, never being allowed to settle down and and grow into themselves, they tend to do whatever it takes to fit in and feel apart of something. When people lack a sense of stability, they are left vulnerable to blindly devoting their support to something ...

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

This here is the "meaning-making crisis" that's making the rounds in internet conversation all over the web. I'm hearing it touched on in various podcasts. The only place I don't hear it talked about is out here in real life.

You know, it’s funny.

Edgework comments on Aug 22, 2019:

Not sure what you’re thinking when you say pause the progressive agenda. Assuming such a thing is remotely realistic: what then? A pause... for how long? Which parts of the progressive agenda would they be expected to set aside for however long the “pause” is in effect? Why would they in the ...

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

Yes, I understand your point. To the ones driving the hand-basket, "there can be only one" highway of good intentions.

I have been tolerating DJT's antics because of my classical liberal opposition to the regressive ...

EdNason comments on Aug 22, 2019:

I think the part part Trump is using is "subject to US law" since they are illegal and citizens of another country they are not "subject to US law", they are subject to another countries laws. That is why if a baby is born at a US embassy in wherever country the baby is automatically a citizen as ...

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

That's the way I've seen it argued.

You know, it’s funny.

chuckpo comments on Aug 22, 2019:

Just curious. Do you think it's in any way their intention to enter into good-faith negotiation over policy? I haven't seen any evidence of that. And, they call the entire non-left far right, nationalists, white supremacists, etc. They're certainly not going to validate the real far right, because ...

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles Blind squirrel, I guess.

You know, it’s funny.

chuckpo comments on Aug 22, 2019:

Just curious. Do you think it's in any way their intention to enter into good-faith negotiation over policy? I haven't seen any evidence of that. And, they call the entire non-left far right, nationalists, white supremacists, etc. They're certainly not going to validate the real far right, because ...

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles I saw the same possibility between libertarians, tea party, OWS... Wasn't talking about throwing anyone under a bus. Was talking about pausing the progress for a little while so that "conservatives" could adjust to the massive changes of the recent past.

You know, it’s funny.

chuckpo comments on Aug 22, 2019:

Just curious. Do you think it's in any way their intention to enter into good-faith negotiation over policy? I haven't seen any evidence of that. And, they call the entire non-left far right, nationalists, white supremacists, etc. They're certainly not going to validate the real far right, because ...

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

I have no idea what might be possible. I personally expect to watch the world burn one day, assuming I live a normal lifespan, but I'm often wrong. No, I don't expect the batshit left to ever settle down, but there are maybe some who aren't to woke to be awakened one day. I only know that there is a real "nationalist" right that has many of the same concerns about the ills of modernity that the anti-globalist Occupy Wall Street left worries about. There is room there, somewhere.

Madebyjimbob: Moral relativism offers no basis on which to make moral value judgments.

GaryWitt comments on Aug 22, 2019:

I think when you take morality to a fairly abstract level, for example with the question, “Are my actions harming anyone?” then you can at least begin to discover absolute truths. The fact that people view their own actions as moral does not make them so. Hence, relativism does not fly.

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

"I think when you take morality to a fairly abstract level...then you can at least begin to discover absolute truths." That's a very good thought. That might be a good place to explore a bit. Thanks.

Currently a video game company void point .

RobBlair comments on Aug 22, 2019:

$10,000 and an apology to try and stay out of the boo box. I guess they're new at this.

govols replies on Aug 22, 2019:

Yep. The next outrage will be about how they're now trying to claim that the vast terrible pain inflicted upon the alphabet community can be healed with money, and then complaints that $10k ain't gonna cut it. Never apologize to a mob.

Rhetorical question of the day: Remember when Rush got roasted all over the media for saying "I hope...

JobyOneKenobi comments on Aug 21, 2019:

It's the very definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face. I have always liked Bill Maher, have always enjoyed his show but man he really comes off as a pretentious prick. He doesn't care who has to suffer or in what way, he just wants Trump to fail. Rush wasn't any better for having the ...

govols replies on Aug 21, 2019:

Rush was a tad different in his desire. Rush wanted Obama to fail at Obama's own stated ambition for a fundamentally transformed America. That's not at all the same as hoping the economy will tank for a few trillion people so a politician will lose reelection.

Milton Friedman, writing in 1970.

DagnyTaggart comments on Aug 21, 2019:

I wish I could see it. It requires a university of Michigan login.

govols replies on Aug 21, 2019:

@RegnadKcin Cool, glad you found a good alternative.

[youtube.com] This guy is making a lot of sense. 2024 isn't that far away.

EdNason comments on Aug 21, 2019:

I would vote for him.

govols replies on Aug 21, 2019:

THE. Worst?

Looks like AOC took a drive through Middle-America, and couldn’t find it anywhere.

chuckpo comments on Aug 21, 2019:

AOC's brain is something like a circular particle accelerator. Two particles are bound to run into each other, gaining something like an AOC thought in the collision. The problem is there's literally nothing else going on. So, she gets one thought at a time, and she never really knows when it's ...

govols replies on Aug 21, 2019:

Let's see if a couple don't volunteer to provide examples of my point... hehehehe.....................

Milton Friedman, writing in 1970.

DagnyTaggart comments on Aug 21, 2019:

I wish I could see it. It requires a university of Michigan login.

govols replies on Aug 21, 2019:

Here's the title, if you want to try searching for it. The Social Responsibility of Business is to Increase its Profits

Would you find it useful if there was a way to glance at who is currently online?

purdyday comments on Aug 20, 2019:

You mean in addition to the little green alert on profile pic ?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

@purdyday I don't know. I was just asking if you'd find it useful.

Would you find it useful if there was a way to glance at who is currently online?

purdyday comments on Aug 20, 2019:

You mean in addition to the little green alert on profile pic ?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

@purdyday Are you saying go to all members and look for green dots? I'm suggesting a link to a page that list only members who are here, rather than all members with dots tto indicate current status.

Ooooh, a gotcha moment for China Daily?

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

What are the Hong Kong people protesting?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

@Naomi Are you aware of any other system that allows industries to have designated seats in legislatures?

Would you find it useful if there was a way to glance at who is currently online?

purdyday comments on Aug 20, 2019:

You mean in addition to the little green alert on profile pic ?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Yes, like instead of seeing green dots on profile pics, one could just visit a list that excludes every member not currently online.

Ooooh, a gotcha moment for China Daily?

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

What are the Hong Kong people protesting?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

@Naomi Yes, that's helpful. Thank you.

This is the biggest bullshit...shut em down. [youtube.com] [judiciary.senate.gov]

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Who actually watches this sort of biased crap?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

It's necessary to get multiple perspectives, but it isn't necessary to volunteer to be propagandized.

Tomi Lahren calls out Dave Rubin and Steven Crowder for dodging debates with leftist Sam Seder.

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Debate what, exactly?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

No, they go to give or host events and genuine left-wing crowds try to shout them down.

Tomi Lahren calls out Dave Rubin and Steven Crowder for dodging debates with leftist Sam Seder.

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Debate what, exactly?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Yes, I know you watch stuff that portrays them poorly. Have you watched what happens when they try to engage "left-wing" people?

Tomi Lahren calls out Dave Rubin and Steven Crowder for dodging debates with leftist Sam Seder.

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Debate what, exactly?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Have you watched very much of the shout-downs they've faced? Have you watched as they take questions and get heckled as they try to answer?

Tomi Lahren calls out Dave Rubin and Steven Crowder for dodging debates with leftist Sam Seder.

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Debate what, exactly?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Many of those positions he takes aren't right-wing to any but left-wing radicals. Quite few of his "change my mind" topics are utterly mainstream among even the liberals of just a few years ago. He's a moderate conservative with a wild sense of humor and a streak of "kiss my ass" aimed squarely at the neo-modern SJW establishment.

Don't know if this is a serious problem in your countries.

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Yep, it's a problem, and we know about it, and we're doing something. I know several who are keeping bees, several who are suffering less sufferable pollinators they would otherwise exterminate. I hope the cause is figured out soon. Theories exist, but confidence seems low thus far...

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

Yeah, I know a lot of people don't realize how intertwined we are within our ecosystems, and it's a real problem. Part of that problem is polarization. If one admits that declining bee populations are real and concerning, then it's taken as a bludgeon to beat them to death with whatever solution eco-politico-activists demand. We can't have conversations about problems because any problem admitted to by one side is weaponized as a justification for every policy solution desired by the other side. It's a really huge issue...maybe the biggest one we face.

Tomi Lahren calls out Dave Rubin and Steven Crowder for dodging debates with leftist Sam Seder.

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Debate what, exactly?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles See, that's part of the problem. Neither Crowder nor Rubin are right or left wing. That's not a basis for a debate.

Tomi Lahren calls out Dave Rubin and Steven Crowder for dodging debates with leftist Sam Seder.

govols comments on Aug 20, 2019:

Debate what, exactly?

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles What topic associated with politics?

This one might be very important.

iThink comments on Aug 20, 2019:

most people check to see which way the wind is blowing before declaring their own intentions and motivations. Truly independent ideation is risky business.

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

I'm guilty. I'm trying to do better.

This is community spirit, no?

Naomi comments on Aug 18, 2019:

Hello everyone. I'm glad that you like the sign, and although I like it, too, I was wondering if it is thinkable that some people may take this kind of sign virtue-signaling, or may feel compelled to use local services which are often not as good as services they can find on-line or from big chain ...

govols replies on Aug 20, 2019:

@MrSubtle I think our tribal function is adaptable--see all of the identity tribes currently affecting our political debates. If one seriously attempts to tie himself to his local community, the psychological tribal instinct can be largely tied to the effort.

This perfectly explains the thought I've had on my mind for quite some time now.

govols comments on Aug 18, 2019:

I can't figure out what to make of your comment in relation to the content of the video.

govols replies on Aug 19, 2019:

Communism? A huge aspect of Marxist theory is exactly the alienation of labor from value due to it's monetization. Capital flows toward those who already have it, and under-rewards the laborer.

This is community spirit, no?

Naomi comments on Aug 18, 2019:

Hello everyone. I'm glad that you like the sign, and although I like it, too, I was wondering if it is thinkable that some people may take this kind of sign virtue-signaling, or may feel compelled to use local services which are often not as good as services they can find on-line or from big chain ...

govols replies on Aug 18, 2019:

Part of community is precisely the application of moral pressure on members. Community is built on shared blood or shared values. If a community can't impose values, what's left but blood?

This is community spirit, no?

Naomi comments on Aug 18, 2019:

Hello everyone. I'm glad that you like the sign, and although I like it, too, I was wondering if it is thinkable that some people may take this kind of sign virtue-signaling, or may feel compelled to use local services which are often not as good as services they can find on-line or from big chain ...

govols replies on Aug 18, 2019:

Perceptions are often inexplicable even to the individual in possession. It's possible to be both guilty of virtue signaling, and at the same time expressing a truth. We just don't see it very often these days.

Interesting effects [youtube.com]

DAN_STL comments on Aug 16, 2019:

I find these statistics, although I haven't verified their source, very disheartening.

govols replies on Aug 16, 2019:

The numbers are at least very close. The deeper you dig the worse it gets, too. Whether intended or not, the policies sold as promoting social justice have thus far served only to undermine the social capital of families, communities, the middle class, social mobility,...

Sensuality through Judaism - Rabbi Shmuley's daughter just opened a sex shop in Tel Aviv - and it's ...

govols comments on Aug 14, 2019:

Jewish kosher dildoes from the preacher's daughter? Really? I really would have read that if the website wasn't infested with bandwidth leeching video adds.

govols replies on Aug 14, 2019:

@Naomi Heck no. I'd miss all of the sexy swimwear adds and lists of "dumbest...." Yes, but it's hit or miss and comes from the factory.

[youtube.com] F@%K Alexa

chuckpo comments on Aug 14, 2019:

Yeesh, 1) Remember those encyclopedia sets? 2) There has never been a time in history where we have so much information at our disposal, and the cost makes it available to NEARLY everyone. Project 10 years. 3) Melding ideology into technology is extraordinarily ill-considered and ...

govols replies on Aug 14, 2019:

One of the biggest problems we'll have going forward is the "memory hole" enabled with technology. As hard copies become more rare the nature of information is more and more subject to "drift." Not only will "truth" be subject to editorial refreshment, the availability of previous "truth" will become limited. In time the only information available will be that which is accepted in the current year. And then moment.

I'd like to propose my own replacement theory.

Naomi comments on Aug 14, 2019:

Hello. Pork intestine, chicken feet, fish heads, bird's saliva... Antifa would love Chinese food.

govols replies on Aug 14, 2019:

O. M. G.

Well.

chuckpo comments on Aug 12, 2019:

I'm really close to being there with a couple of user ids. A few others straddle the line, and a very few seem to add depth to their points--provide SOME evidence they've actually thought about the topic and are still open and thinking about it. OPEN is NOT an attribute I'd apply to the left. ...

govols replies on Aug 12, 2019:

@Don_Provolone Besides, I warned you it was too long to bother with.

Well.

chuckpo comments on Aug 12, 2019:

I'm really close to being there with a couple of user ids. A few others straddle the line, and a very few seem to add depth to their points--provide SOME evidence they've actually thought about the topic and are still open and thinking about it. OPEN is NOT an attribute I'd apply to the left. ...

govols replies on Aug 12, 2019:

@Don_Provolone Postmodernism gets a bit of a bad rap because of what followed from it.

Well.

chuckpo comments on Aug 12, 2019:

I'm really close to being there with a couple of user ids. A few others straddle the line, and a very few seem to add depth to their points--provide SOME evidence they've actually thought about the topic and are still open and thinking about it. OPEN is NOT an attribute I'd apply to the left. ...

govols replies on Aug 12, 2019:

For God's sake, NO! Don't block each other. We'd miss this... "We" meant "I."

Well.

chuckpo comments on Aug 12, 2019:

I'm really close to being there with a couple of user ids. A few others straddle the line, and a very few seem to add depth to their points--provide SOME evidence they've actually thought about the topic and are still open and thinking about it. OPEN is NOT an attribute I'd apply to the left. ...

govols replies on Aug 12, 2019:

Too long; DON"T read!!! Postmodernism isn't the vile subversive thing it's made out to be. The vile subversive thing is what came along and gutted it, skinned it, cannibalized the tools developed by postmodernism... If you consider modernity, the idea that the world can be known through reason and empiricism; that it can be explained through natural causes and that no unnatural--supernatural--explanations will possibly hold up to a growing comprehension of nature as it actually IS; modernism is the intellectual proposition that knowledge is nature and its mechanics. Modernism makes for astounding engineering, but sort of annihilates personal meaningful experience. Postmodernism is the study of things unseen. It was the attempt--to my mind--by mostly incompetent literature and linguistics scholars, to answer Nietzsche's demand for a big enough bathtub to wash away the blood of God as modernism was actively murdering Him in the minds (and then hearts) of society. Philosophy was looking around at society and observing that the masses are but one new understanding of nature away from losing faith in an "ultimate meaning" that makes the misery of life tolerable. Postmodernism was attempting to find the meaning that modernism was dismantling. It was proposing stuff like, "well, really, what can we actually know that we know?" Science says that 90% of a table is empty space, but that isn't how we experience a table. What do we mean by "table?" The word merely signifies a concept; the concept you hold for the word isn't the same as the one I hold for the word, but the word raises the concept in each of our minds; you and I don't know the scientific "atomic table," the word "table" is an arbitrary signifier constructed by society generations prior to the "table" in your or my mind, and neither of us can ever know the first table the word signified, nor the table each other of us carries around in our minds to cast upon the atoms of science when the word is invoked. What do we know but the personal manner in which we each experience existence and interaction? I don't remember who the hell said it, but it went something like, "A question asked and unanswered for 3000 years is best dismissed as uninteresting. What IS being? What IS meaning? Who cares? The interesting question is how do we change it." The "IT" in question was the meaningless suffering of human existence. The answer most widely settled on was "emancipation." How can we deconstruct the social systems that oppress the masses and release them from the futility of their servitude? Well, we just left postmodernism, and move on to Critical Theory. Postmodernism was an attempt to explain how, no matter the extent of our natural knowledge, we experience the world through the society constructed ...

We need to learn the art of listening to each other.

FaithJones comments on Aug 8, 2019:

I don't think politics on the UK is divided as left and right any longer. I see it as democratic home rule vs unelected foreign rule. The old left and right are equally divided on which to support. The old right would accept Marxism if it would be the only way out of this impasse. The old left would...

govols replies on Aug 8, 2019:

@iThink I'm not sure that's true, in the deep sense. In the modern era, yea, authoritarian might be required to forge a collective, a few thousand or million strong. What we're most pre-historically adapted to, though, is a hundred or so of The People living as a collective...a tribe, a troop, a pride....A People. As we attempt to homogenize a million here, a billion there, yes, we have to set down some distinction between us and me, and establish some authority complex. That's part of why community means so much to many of us. In this place I am a contributor to the collective wellbeing. As things get bigger, we lose "place," wellbeing isn't a locally perceivable, and we look toward Authority to give us a cause toward which to contribute. Or some such crap.....

We need to learn the art of listening to each other.

FaithJones comments on Aug 8, 2019:

I don't think politics on the UK is divided as left and right any longer. I see it as democratic home rule vs unelected foreign rule. The old left and right are equally divided on which to support. The old right would accept Marxism if it would be the only way out of this impasse. The old left would...

govols replies on Aug 8, 2019:

@iThink There are a few collective ideals that make their appeals to an Author, rather than to authority.

We need to learn the art of listening to each other.

FaithJones comments on Aug 8, 2019:

I don't think politics on the UK is divided as left and right any longer. I see it as democratic home rule vs unelected foreign rule. The old left and right are equally divided on which to support. The old right would accept Marxism if it would be the only way out of this impasse. The old left would...

govols replies on Aug 8, 2019:

In the US, a coalition-party has decided that the way to power is to deconstruct the existing institutions through which "traditionally-tending," currently "privileged" group(s) attempt to function within society. The belief of the coalition-party is that the existent institutions are built on oppression tactics and that in order to liberate the coalition-identities, the institutions of privilege/oppression must be toppled. In less polished collections of idealists, the popular phrases are, "Kill Whitey," and "Punch a NAZI." Even "Allies" are "problematic" because they are only taking the side of the oppressed to increase their "privilege status." It's hard to convene a tasty "QuestionTime" when every question is already answered "in the literature."

When did free speech become radical? FreeSpeech

govols comments on Aug 6, 2019:

Let's see... It was radical to speak out against homosexuality itself. It was radical to speak out against discrimination against homosexuals. It was radical to speak against gun control. It was radical to speak for gun control. Integration of blacks Workplace equality Unions Against the...

govols replies on Aug 6, 2019:

@EdNason The CONCEPT is radical. It only wasn't for, like, a week, some time in the 1700s., maybe.

El Paso Shooter's Manifesto [thefederalistpapers.org]

timon_phocas comments on Aug 5, 2019:

The screed doesn't sound like a Trump manifesto. It sounds mostly leftist. It's anti corporation and environmentalist. It's both anti Democrat and anti Republican. He advocates for universal basic income. And he goes out of his way to deny any connection with Trump or motivation from Trump.

govols replies on Aug 5, 2019:

@Don_Provolone I hope he is regarded as a person and a subject. We could benefit from a few dozen years of conversation with him, maybe, depending on whether he's just all fucked up.

El Paso Shooter's Manifesto [thefederalistpapers.org]

timon_phocas comments on Aug 5, 2019:

The screed doesn't sound like a Trump manifesto. It sounds mostly leftist. It's anti corporation and environmentalist. It's both anti Democrat and anti Republican. He advocates for universal basic income. And he goes out of his way to deny any connection with Trump or motivation from Trump.

govols replies on Aug 5, 2019:

But, he is a race separatist, which makes him alt-right-Trump-lover-fascist-racist-pig...no matter the nuance his other views might bring to the table.

I stumbled on a video on YouTube where a right-wing Jewish vlogger accuses a left-wing Christian of...

RobBlair comments on Aug 5, 2019:

If we can't talk about ideas without resorting to ad hominems, then we have lost the key to western culture. Criticizing Israel is not anti-semitic. Treating Israel in a way different than the treatment given to any other country is probably anti-semitic. The ADL is specifically tasked with ...

govols replies on Aug 5, 2019:

Most of western "leadership" has given up on Theology as a for of reasoned dialogue; it's mostly gone secular. It has no business in a conversation that REQUIRES a theological perspective and cross-theology frame of reference. We really have no seat at that table. We no longer have Faith--good or bad--to bring to the conversation.

‘How do you stop these people?

Boardwine comments on Aug 5, 2019:

You people are scumbags. Was it Obamas fault when BLM shot 5 cops in Dallas? Or God knows how many riots? Was it Bernies fault when a nutjob shot a bunch of Republican congressmen? Or stabbed people on the subway? What you don't get, is you are all but assuring his re-election.

govols replies on Aug 5, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles Religious bitter clingers was a dehumanizing comment

Who says freedom of speech is dead in the UK? Speakers' Corner live and kicking!

richardwrites comments on Aug 3, 2019:

I will be there tomorrow.

govols replies on Aug 3, 2019:

The speakers' corner, or the moon?

I just dropped this into another thread, but thought I'd toss it out as a stand alone post.

DesireNoDesires comments on Aug 1, 2019:

hmm...combining science with religion?

govols replies on Aug 1, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires What could I possibly be risking? I'm a man of the South. As Peterson has said, "I act as though God exists." I'm not a believer, exactly, but I'm steeped in a Christian tradition, and that tradition is part of not only my own culture, but part of what makes culture functional even now in the modern (postmodern?) age. I don't want the old traditions to be decimated by modernity. I have a longing for the ease of mind that tradition provides, and a deep gratitude for the ease of body that modernity provides. It hurts my heart to see the old traditions displaced by science and theory. Something about it leaves me a tad empty, and sort of longing for a heritage beyond, well, what we have here today.....

I just dropped this into another thread, but thought I'd toss it out as a stand alone post.

DesireNoDesires comments on Aug 1, 2019:

hmm...combining science with religion?

govols replies on Aug 1, 2019:

Not combining, just thinking.

Viewed differently, differently seen.

FaithJones comments on Aug 1, 2019:

You would probably lose most modern readers at 'God is the creator'. You might think that there is a deity and that's an action it took but this is phrased as an empiric conjoined fact when actually there is no evidence for or against it, just a theory saying what happened since, which all ...

govols replies on Aug 1, 2019:

I shouldn't even go here, but... Given all of the creation stories from the ancient times and beyond, turtles all the way down, carving up god-mother, whatever, there's the one that says, when God was beginning His creation He said Let there be Light. Thousands of years after those oral traditions were joined with the technology of written language, the working theory in modern science is that, in the beginning, a near-infinite mass/energy existed in a near-infinitesimal space, and time as we know it did not exist an infinitesimal instant before that mass-energy exploded as a near-infinite--purely energetic--"BANG"...of light. Current theory posits that dimensions might exist beyond the four that we experience as space-time. Current theory posits that matter and energy exists in form that our most cutting-edge observational--experiential--instruments cannot--or have not, yet--allowed us to directly observe. The "Dark Matter/Dark Energy" that's theorized is actually GREATER THAN(?) the matter and energy that we HAVE empirically and experientially measured. There is no evidence for God, but modern theory suggests that a "realm of being" exists that we have yet to empirically experience, that realm exists as part of--but apart from--reality as we currently "know" it, and that **something** existed prior to any time that we might measure. I'm not saying there **is** a creator God, but science seems to be not terribly disparaging of at least one ancient traditional "theory" of "creation" that pre-dates the 1860s. Scientists might denigrate the notion, but science still seems fairly open minded on the topic.

The concept of the nation-state is officially over.

WilyRickWiles comments on Jul 31, 2019:

God willing. Best written critique of conservatives: Corey Robin's The Reactionary Mind.

govols replies on Jul 31, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles Conservatives, throughout history, have been traditionalists.

The concept of the nation-state is officially over.

WilyRickWiles comments on Jul 31, 2019:

God willing. Best written critique of conservatives: Corey Robin's The Reactionary Mind.

govols replies on Jul 31, 2019:

Anyone who bigins in the 1700s admits a profound bias or ignorance.

The concept of the nation-state is officially over.

jwhitten comments on Jul 31, 2019:

One could also say that "Progressives" rarely "Progress" anything.

govols replies on Jul 31, 2019:

Actually, progress marches right back around, only bigger. Some are fit to rule, and those most fit ought to rule...everything.

Are we gonna really sit here and act like this shit aint just a distraction?

ObiRonMoldy comments on Jul 30, 2019:

That was a pretty worthless "debate." I don't always agree w/ Carlson, but I do agree that any protesters need to set a positive example. If they're going to draw attention, then need to send the right message. I disagree with their message in the first place, and they way they continually conduct ...

govols replies on Jul 30, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires What is btc? Bitcoin? If economy crashes majority of funds? WW3? I don't get what you're saying we're being distracted from...

Why do you believe the Democrat Party has not yet organized a riot in Baltimore like they did under ...

DesireNoDesires comments on Jul 30, 2019:

they are, its just being dont virtually on twitter

govols replies on Jul 30, 2019:

Well, that's for the better. Twitter doesn't burn out neighborhoods.

Well this is awkward.. [ushistory.org]

govols comments on Jul 29, 2019:

At present I'm agnostic. I'll pick sides once we figure out how the sides are going to be drawn. I'm currently leaning toward Southern Nationalist.

govols replies on Jul 29, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires Experience taught me that we all are. And humans are animals far more than people.

I'm curious and would like your input on perceptions of mental health problems.

govols comments on Jul 29, 2019:

I have an idea the the quantity and degrees of neuroticism are proportional to the simplicity and stability of the societies in which individuals exist. More complexity and/or more units of change per units of time screw with individual and populational adaptability.

govols replies on Jul 29, 2019:

@Don_Provolone Everything, on my part, is speculation. Where knowing nothing is concerned, I'm worse than Jon Snow.

I'm curious and would like your input on perceptions of mental health problems.

govols comments on Jul 29, 2019:

I have an idea the the quantity and degrees of neuroticism are proportional to the simplicity and stability of the societies in which individuals exist. More complexity and/or more units of change per units of time screw with individual and populational adaptability.

govols replies on Jul 29, 2019:

@Don_Provolone Holy Shit! Mental well-being is (to some extent/in some ways) related to how much excess attention span one has remaining within his unexpected-stimuli-accounting system? One bridge too far; the last straw; hanging by a thread, he just snapped.... Man, my previous posts are over-thought versions of basic conventional wisdom.