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I'm curious and would like your input on perceptions of mental health problems.

govols comments on Jul 29, 2019:

I have an idea the the quantity and degrees of neuroticism are proportional to the simplicity and stability of the societies in which individuals exist. More complexity and/or more units of change per units of time screw with individual and populational adaptability.

govols replies on Jul 29, 2019:

@Don_Provolone I have no way to frame your example. I think I get it, in that so long as stimulus isn't overwhelming, seizure response remains inactive?

I'm curious and would like your input on perceptions of mental health problems.

govols comments on Jul 29, 2019:

I have an idea the the quantity and degrees of neuroticism are proportional to the simplicity and stability of the societies in which individuals exist. More complexity and/or more units of change per units of time screw with individual and populational adaptability.

govols replies on Jul 29, 2019:

@Don_Provolone Kinda like most of us exist in a conceptual geography that represents so little of actual reality that we ignore almost everything our senses detect; most of our attention is focused on outlying phenomena. In daily affairs, the world is as it is and we attend to the tasks at hand and the odd unexpected interruption. That seems like the model we're adapted to. If too much disruption creeps into our affairs, dealing with crises overwhelms our faculties and prevents us from managing our basic needs effectively. When individuals among us are failing to manage the basic tasks of daily social interaction, it is often-to-always because their attention is divided up dealing with an abundance of unexpected intrusions from the vastness of the social environment.

"It is better to inspire the heart with a noble sentiment, than to teach the mind a truth of ...

govols comments on Jul 29, 2019:

7th grade, eh? Well, if you never have, look up McGuffey's 6th reader from the 1800s. The whole series is worth a look; it didn't teach just reading and writing, but even manners, morals, and ethics. It was one of the most widely used school texts in the country for generations, providing, for many,...

govols replies on Jul 29, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires I'm certain there isn't much from ancient lit, especially as it might be time-framed with context via simultaneous forays into period appropriate history and social studies, or we wouldn't have so many who think of our forebears as ignorant and dim.

"It is better to inspire the heart with a noble sentiment, than to teach the mind a truth of ...

govols comments on Jul 29, 2019:

7th grade, eh? Well, if you never have, look up McGuffey's 6th reader from the 1800s. The whole series is worth a look; it didn't teach just reading and writing, but even manners, morals, and ethics. It was one of the most widely used school texts in the country for generations, providing, for many,...

govols replies on Jul 29, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires I would have so failed this work, probably even now, and I've had college comp and reading for comprehension and retention.

Its ironic that you are the first and only current member..lol @govols

govols comments on Jul 26, 2019:

Well, since I'm here, and you started it, pick a topic and I'll start gathering my argument.

govols replies on Jul 26, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires I'm not sure where to find the contra-view, but the stuff google endorses pretty clearly says no link.

I'll lay down Kris Kristopherson, Why Me Lord?

JimbobNE comments on Jul 25, 2019:

I love this song, I've heard Kris, Elvis, Johnny Cash and a few others sing this song. Probably like Elvis's version better, but Kris' version did the best on the charts. His voice isn't great but he does make the record very good. Kris was definitely one of the best songwriters around. Can you ...

govols replies on Jul 25, 2019:

The contact high alone would be a transcendental experience.

Anyone brave enough to make an attempt in forming an argument against their own stances on current ...

govols comments on Jul 25, 2019:

I'm sometimes afraid to. It would really piss me off if I argued a bad position and my argument was used to get it implemented.

govols replies on Jul 25, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires Like scab picking and rubber-necking, I most likely won't be able to resist.

[youtu.be] Sound of Silence - Disturbed

govols comments on Jul 25, 2019:

This is one of the best performances I've ever experienced. I've watched it many times.

govols replies on Jul 25, 2019:

@Sheryl_Jean Yes. The first time I heard it, it took me to a weird place where pain and pleasure are the same experience. It was really surprisingly powerful.

Anyone brave enough to make an attempt in forming an argument against their own stances on current ...

govols comments on Jul 25, 2019:

I'm sometimes afraid to. It would really piss me off if I argued a bad position and my argument was used to get it implemented.

govols replies on Jul 25, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires The thing is, I can pretty much do as you're suggesting, but I don't really want to "steel man" a position to which I'm opposed. I'm well aware of the fact that my "side" is one to which I'm emotionally attached and that arguments I make on behalf of those attachments are, by definition, going to be rationalizations. On the other hand, arguments I might make on behalf of the "side" I find offensive, again, by definition, are going to be more critically well put together than any "they" might make due to the fact that it wouldn't be supported by confirmation bias. I do make a practice of much the same sort of thing, but I won't be posting it up to the public square for eventual use against me.

Charles Murray laments the lack of investment in the intellectual elite where 0.

govols comments on Jun 24, 2019:

Where did you find lamentations over a lack of investment into the cognitive elite? Most of what I've read or heard from him laments the cultural isolation they enjoy due to the fact that the system is so effective at finding them and bringing them into the intellectual fold.

govols replies on Jul 23, 2019:

@acthenpens I'll try to remember to stop back in when I'm done with the bell curve.

What if the World is a Reflection of Our Understanding of It?

Oxfret comments on Jul 19, 2019:

I mean.. it is a reflection of our understanding of it, at least within the individual. Each persons understanding shapes the way they see the world and the masses have their own degree that they shape it as a whole. It's another balance within a contradiction, they shape each other by aposing ...

govols replies on Jul 19, 2019:

@Oxfret hey, I'm diggin' the positive vibes. I'll back away from the 20 questions and catch you again where the conversation draws us. Cheers, for now.

What if the World is a Reflection of Our Understanding of It?

Oxfret comments on Jul 19, 2019:

I mean.. it is a reflection of our understanding of it, at least within the individual. Each persons understanding shapes the way they see the world and the masses have their own degree that they shape it as a whole. It's another balance within a contradiction, they shape each other by aposing ...

govols replies on Jul 19, 2019:

@Oxfret how come your inexpressabilty? Injury? Early developmental issues? Wrong place, don't go there?

What if the World is a Reflection of Our Understanding of It?

Oxfret comments on Jul 19, 2019:

I mean.. it is a reflection of our understanding of it, at least within the individual. Each persons understanding shapes the way they see the world and the masses have their own degree that they shape it as a whole. It's another balance within a contradiction, they shape each other by aposing ...

govols replies on Jul 19, 2019:

@Oxfret You're tribe is the bed-ridden-been-watchin's? Ever thought about starting a band?

What if the World is a Reflection of Our Understanding of It?

Oxfret comments on Jul 19, 2019:

I mean.. it is a reflection of our understanding of it, at least within the individual. Each persons understanding shapes the way they see the world and the masses have their own degree that they shape it as a whole. It's another balance within a contradiction, they shape each other by aposing ...

govols replies on Jul 19, 2019:

What's your tribe? Any idea?

BabylonBee: Trump finally loses Baptist support when video shows him dancing.

govols comments on Jul 18, 2019:

Oh dear God! If somebody would animate Trump as the dancing baby from hoowachuka, huwachuka.. State of the union... I'm freaking loving the video in my mind....

govols replies on Jul 18, 2019:

@Don_Provolone It hurts, doesn't it? LOL!!!

BabylonBee: Trump finally loses Baptist support when video shows him dancing.

govols comments on Jul 18, 2019:

Oh dear God! If somebody would animate Trump as the dancing baby from hoowachuka, huwachuka.. State of the union... I'm freaking loving the video in my mind....

govols replies on Jul 18, 2019:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHSuyTrKwdg

Truth of Homelands/Reserves and the success of separate territories for the different people groups ...

govols comments on Jul 16, 2019:

It is 100% certain that we are members of tribes and we need our own homelands. We have so, SO fucked that up in the past, but it remains true.North America alone needs about a dozen or so more identities, and a really loose confederacy for commerce and defense. The metropolitans have a tribe, ...

govols replies on Jul 16, 2019:

@Don_Provolone We are. We just don't know it yet.

Would it be wrong for a non-believer to become a part of the Church, participate in the worship, the...

Dmwils comments on Jul 16, 2019:

I believe you have a question you want answered about faith and eternity if you are wanting to join a church. If you just want to belong to a community there are many groups you can volunteer with to accomplish that goal. You can become politically active, volunteer at a hospital or even run a ...

govols replies on Jul 16, 2019:

Hell, I would think everyone has questions about faith and eternity except those wacked out metaatheists who drone on and on. The whole freaking species, everywhere it ever planted roots, has been pondering such questions and ideas. Humans have a hole in their souls and every culture we ever built (that we know of) fills it with a higher power, higher plane, higher way of being. My question was more about whether worming into a faith tradition without belief is offensive to true believers or considered especially sinful. If we assume each and every human is seeking to fill a God sized hole in their experience, but has no faith, is it okay to intrude upon a congregation.... Even the redirect isn't right. There has to be a way to ask and answer the question, even if I fail at my side of it.

Would it be wrong for a non-believer to become a part of the Church, participate in the worship, the...

ronhark comments on Jul 16, 2019:

Fine question. In large part I would guess it depends on the denomination or maybe even the individual church. Personally, I would welcome that person. As an LCMS Lutheran, we believe that God comes to us through Word and Sacrament and while we should share the Gospel, the Holy Spirit brings people ...

govols replies on Jul 16, 2019:

So you suppose it has most to do with the value a congregation places on evangelism, and their willingness to allow the pace to be set by the seeker?

Would it be wrong for a non-believer to become a part of the Church, participate in the worship, the...

chuckpo comments on Jul 16, 2019:

I'm not sure the church would see it that way. As long as you weren't undermining and you were respectful, I think they'd consider your presence an opportunity for God to work on you and invite you to be there. I find most times Christians are quite inviting when you treat them like real people. ...

govols replies on Jul 16, 2019:

@Don_Provolone Yeah, I'm pretty sure the hypothetical assumes a bit of secrecy. I wasn't picturing somebody like, " I sorta cringe at your beliefs, but can I play with you guys and sorta become an honorary tribe mate?" Still, I would imagine it would come out over time, faithless participant becoming valued participant. I think it would cause reservations to arise.

What are your guys thought on State currencies rather then a inflated federal currency?

govols comments on Jul 11, 2019:

I won't attempt to master economics and monetary theory. I will say that the Constitution delegates to congress the power to coin money, to establish the value thereof, and to standardize weights and measures. It doesn't delegate any power to invent and then print paper legal tender notes and call ...

govols replies on Jul 12, 2019:

@Babou I tried to look it up as commonly understood at the time and what I found suggested actual coins like copper gold and silver.

What are your guys thought on State currencies rather then a inflated federal currency?

govols comments on Jul 11, 2019:

I won't attempt to master economics and monetary theory. I will say that the Constitution delegates to congress the power to coin money, to establish the value thereof, and to standardize weights and measures. It doesn't delegate any power to invent and then print paper legal tender notes and call ...

govols replies on Jul 12, 2019:

@Babou as near as I can tell your post is mostly accurate. Still, coin is different from print.

There's a story about a man who lives in a great house next to a verdant piece of land.

govols comments on Jul 11, 2019:

I still don't get it.

govols replies on Jul 11, 2019:

@Oxfret That's helpful. Thanks. I'll go off and play now....,,

[pjmedia.

Penrodster comments on Jul 11, 2019:

The 12000 papers were also read over a period of a week and a half, let that sink in. Also the milquetoast requirements in the paper mean that I am a Global Warming Believer.

govols replies on Jul 11, 2019:

@Don_Provolone Yuck!

[pjmedia.

Penrodster comments on Jul 11, 2019:

The 12000 papers were also read over a period of a week and a half, let that sink in. Also the milquetoast requirements in the paper mean that I am a Global Warming Believer.

govols replies on Jul 11, 2019:

A week and a half? I struggle to write an effective grocery list in a week and a half.

The greatest thing about living on 3 acres in a community in which the smallest lot is 2 acres, and ...

Babou comments on Jul 11, 2019:

There's a story about a man who lives in a great house next to a verdant piece of land. There's a long oak table, and at the end of the table, there are a set of open windows that look out on the wonderful piece of land. Every morning, the owner has breakfast at this long table and looks out the ...

govols replies on Jul 11, 2019:

Sometimes parables and metaphor are wasted on those for whom they're intended. I don't get it...........

Article about a quality Christian soccer player who was left off of the women's national team squad ...

govols comments on Jul 11, 2019:

I doubt it can be proven that she was cut due to her beliefs, but if she was it was in violation of law. Personally, well, I have no objection to discrimination except by government officers and agencies, but that's not the way we've allowed the law to be imposed.

govols replies on Jul 11, 2019:

@chuckpo I totally get the team thing, and if I were making decisions regarding people not getting along and affecting the unity of the organization, I wouldn't hesitate to get rid of problems if counseling proved ineffective. I would be very tempted to keep the one who helped the team the most but I would hope I could muster the discipline to fire the asshole, instead.

In the US, 18 year olds can be drafted into the military.

govols comments on Jul 11, 2019:

I tend to think that all rights of citizenship, and all privileges of residency, should come in each State at the minimum age at which individuals may be legally tried for crimes as adults.

govols replies on Jul 11, 2019:

@coalburned I'm not terribly opposed to the idea, but that's a Constitutional issue. The power to raise an army was delegated to the general government, and at that time 18-45 year old white men were specifically identified as subject to conscription. Also, while voting age was left to the States prior to 1971, that power is has been limited within the Constitution itself. State may set it lower than 18, but not higher.

Whatever the Truth turns out to be, I will believe it.

govols comments on Jul 10, 2019:

I hate you.

govols replies on Jul 10, 2019:

@TommyApplecore That was a really good, but aggravating video.

Check out the science of the small.

govols comments on Jul 9, 2019:

I've machined parts on manual lathes and mills to plus nothing, minus 0.001". I've welded shim stock down to 0.010" with a plasma welder. I've butt-welded (laser) dissimilar wires as small as 0.003" with weld zone tolerances of plus/minus 0.0005". I've spent maybe 10,000 hours over a microscope over...

govols replies on Jul 9, 2019:

@jwhitten My experience with welding, teaching or learning, is that you simply do it well or you don't ever quite get it. The fundamental fact is you stick shit together with a steady hand and a modest set of knowledge associated with base and filler metals. You have to know a collection of stuff and have a set of hand/eye skills that may or may not be within your wheelhouse. If you have it, it's easy to learn. If you don't, well, I would prefer you focus on literature, engineering, whatever... On the other hand, anybody who can learn woodworking, basic joinery, and fundamental use of manual power tools can build a table. And learn to weld.

Check out the science of the small.

govols comments on Jul 9, 2019:

I've machined parts on manual lathes and mills to plus nothing, minus 0.001". I've welded shim stock down to 0.010" with a plasma welder. I've butt-welded (laser) dissimilar wires as small as 0.003" with weld zone tolerances of plus/minus 0.0005". I've spent maybe 10,000 hours over a microscope over...

govols replies on Jul 9, 2019:

And I saved the link to explore some more.

[nationalreview.

govols comments on Jul 5, 2019:

I can't figure integration out. I can understand differing views when I try, but I can't figure out how to see the world from vantages other than my own. Still, on some level, in trying to understand more about differing views I think my own vantage moves...even if I'm stuck with my previous ...

govols replies on Jul 9, 2019:

@chuckpo I'm going to toss a few ideas out. I have an idea that postmodernism (GOD I HATE THAT WORD!) has a useful set of ideas. The idea of Critical Theory is useful. IF it's possible to "think of the world" from the perspective of oppressor/oppressed, power/privilege/exploitation--without buying into it as dogmatic Truth; IF it's possible to theorize models that describe social structures in ways that deconstruct the portions that seem maybe arbitrary; IF such sociological intellectual exercises are done in good faith and IF they're guided by and within an appreciation for classical philosophy and the human sciences like psychology, anthropology, neurology, evolutionary biology, etc; THEN there might be some useful contributions toward better human understanding. The "Blank Slate" paradigm has to be shattered into pieces, ground to dust, tossed into a fire and the ashes scattered to the corners of the Earth. Humans have some deep deep deep behavioral natures. Traditional societies need to be understood within the context of pre-civilization human interaction and cooperation. Some of the structures we inherited might very well be arbitrary but the fact of a rule, in and of itself, might be a social adaptation evolve to sort ongoing historic obstacles to cooperation in favor of competition. Postmodernism doesn't well enough respect the idea of not tearing down fences unless you understand who put them up and why. The reason Good Science need to be imposed onto social Critical Theory: some of it seems true enough that good objective evaluation research and studies could be designed. The current practice of "gender-geographical-autoethnography" type of "scholarship" needs share the fate of the Blank Slate. So, yeah, I'm trying to figure out where I find strengths within all of the "wisdoms" I've been learning about. If one could extract the best parts from all of the ages, and really examine the "worst" parts for where and why they where and might remain useful before tossing them out... Maybe a decent new model framework could be put together for consideration and analysis. The problem is that the academics work in boxes and the "knowledge" is just too vast for the amateur intellectual to ever fully survey. Maybe that's an idea: the integrated studies program.

Whether or not mankind is changing the Climate, we know that it does change and that there are ...

DanielEvans comments on Jul 8, 2019:

No. No, wait... FUCK NO. This would about as productive as trying to push South America and Africa together. I swear I'm still stunned by how arrogantly ignorant mankind is to think they have anything more than infinitesimally nanoscale effect on controlling the climate of a planet that ...

govols replies on Jul 8, 2019:

I'm curious...Do you think human civilization, right now, could intentionally cause a significant change to the global climate? What if we tossed a few nukes into the Yellowstone Caldera? If it is possible that we might, today, if we tried, is it possible that we might have, inadvertently, in the past?

[nationalreview.

govols comments on Jul 5, 2019:

I can't figure integration out. I can understand differing views when I try, but I can't figure out how to see the world from vantages other than my own. Still, on some level, in trying to understand more about differing views I think my own vantage moves...even if I'm stuck with my previous ...

govols replies on Jul 8, 2019:

@chuckpo Most of mine wind around a bit; I can't hold a thought together long enough to follow it most of the time. If I dive into premodern thought I can follow it. If I dive into enlightenment thought I can follow it. If I dive into "postmodern" criticisms of the modern age brought about by rationalism and scientific method and such, I can follow it. I can follow critical theory, race and gender theory, the ideas of relative linguistics, literary interpretation theory, all of that stuff I can hold and comprehend together one or two at a time. What I haven't managed is integration. I'm certain that society needs something like faith, religion, ritual, to serve as a foundational element because I'm certain that some portion of the population simply needs a structure within which to be productive but hasn't the brainpower to intellectualize morals and ethics and fair play a such. I'm certain reason is a pillar, as well an critical thinking and criticism of status quo. I don't know...I'm bright enough to see a lot of validity to a lot of seemingly contradictory ideas, but not if I look at all of them at once.

DHS Officer of Inspector General reveals squalid conditions in border detention centers ...

govols comments on Jul 3, 2019:

Overwhelming a system has impact. Promising DACA, health care, amnesty, refugee status to economic migrants contributes markedly to the effort in place to bring down national borders.

govols replies on Jul 3, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles It's impossible to know. It's damned sure not helping to reduce the invasion force in numbers, though.

DHS Officer of Inspector General reveals squalid conditions in border detention centers ...

govols comments on Jul 3, 2019:

Overwhelming a system has impact. Promising DACA, health care, amnesty, refugee status to economic migrants contributes markedly to the effort in place to bring down national borders.

govols replies on Jul 3, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles it is true. Detentions isn't a measure of crossings, and holding for hearings is more faithful to migration policy and national security than catch and release.

DHS Officer of Inspector General reveals squalid conditions in border detention centers ...

timon_phocas comments on Jul 3, 2019:

DHS facilities designed for a few hundred detainees at at time are trying to cope with thousands of detainees. They are overwhelmed. Democrats said there was no crisis at the border. They refused to fund any expansion to accommodate the flood of people. And now they're accusing the Border Patrol...

govols replies on Jul 3, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles right now the "right" just wants to stop the ongoing invasion.

Is it just me or is Trump's monologue on homelessness in this interview reminiscent of the ...

govols comments on Jul 2, 2019:

Do some of our cities have problems related to the effects of policies that fail to promote or actually dissuade utilization of basic public hygiene? Has basic public health become an issue in some cities? Just curious. I avoid dense populations.

govols replies on Jul 2, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles cheers, then.....

Is it just me or is Trump's monologue on homelessness in this interview reminiscent of the ...

govols comments on Jul 2, 2019:

Do some of our cities have problems related to the effects of policies that fail to promote or actually dissuade utilization of basic public hygiene? Has basic public health become an issue in some cities? Just curious. I avoid dense populations.

govols replies on Jul 2, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles Hellscape? Not quite.

Is it just me or is Trump's monologue on homelessness in this interview reminiscent of the ...

govols comments on Jul 2, 2019:

Do some of our cities have problems related to the effects of policies that fail to promote or actually dissuade utilization of basic public hygiene? Has basic public health become an issue in some cities? Just curious. I avoid dense populations.

govols replies on Jul 2, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles well then, your experience is that no city you have recurently visited is less clean than on prior visits?

Is it just me or is Trump's monologue on homelessness in this interview reminiscent of the ...

govols comments on Jul 2, 2019:

Do some of our cities have problems related to the effects of policies that fail to promote or actually dissuade utilization of basic public hygiene? Has basic public health become an issue in some cities? Just curious. I avoid dense populations.

govols replies on Jul 2, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles didn't ask about sterile. I asked about cities where hygiene is degrading rather than improving.

Is it just me or is Trump's monologue on homelessness in this interview reminiscent of the ...

govols comments on Jul 2, 2019:

Do some of our cities have problems related to the effects of policies that fail to promote or actually dissuade utilization of basic public hygiene? Has basic public health become an issue in some cities? Just curious. I avoid dense populations.

govols replies on Jul 2, 2019:

@WilyRickWiles There are zero cities with shit in the streets? Used needles in gutters? None?

our tribes? The origin for document, i got interupted. [medium.com] [docs.google.com]

chuckpo comments on Jul 2, 2019:

A lot of topics in there. Also, a lot to play around with. Can you collapse any of the categories? Are their natural allies? Uncomfortable allies? Would a timeline be an interesting way to look at it? Interconnectedness? Group on factors (like classism)? Emotional weight? It would be really ...

govols replies on Jul 2, 2019:

I edited to add the article I stole the spreadsheet from

I have been in discussion lately with a couple of Christians.

govols comments on Jun 29, 2019:

What behavior?

govols replies on Jun 29, 2019:

@waynus the word almost never shares a meaning or context related to or demonstrating irrational fear.

I have been in discussion lately with a couple of Christians.

govols comments on Jun 29, 2019:

What behavior?

govols replies on Jun 29, 2019:

@waynus "Homophobic" is quite the meaningless accusation. It is so indiscriminately tossed about that it no longer points toward discernably wrong, immoral, or unethical behaviors or intents.

I have been in discussion lately with a couple of Christians.

govols comments on Jun 29, 2019:

Have you ever discussed to agreement what moral and ethical is?

govols replies on Jun 29, 2019:

@waynus on what basis do you arrive at it being unethical to discriminate?

Yes, civil war is coming - YouTube

timon_phocas comments on Jun 29, 2019:

Firearms purchases jumped under the Obama Administration because people thought they'd never have another chance once he got his legislative agenda passed. They peaked again in 2016 because everybody thought Hillary Clinton would win and the gun grabbers would have free reign. Once Trump won, ...

govols replies on Jun 29, 2019:

The spikes are not the same as the trend. Gun sales dropped in '17, but the trend continues upward. America is arming up.

Hardcore Partisans Don't Understand Each Other (and it's worst among educated liberals) ...

chuckpo comments on Jun 28, 2019:

Does anyone else think this graphic was really telling? And, I'd guess that the graphic underrepresents the effect due to misreport. I'm in that particular demographic a lot.

govols replies on Jun 28, 2019:

That represents the left-better-than-thou bubble that the ruling class lives in

Hardcore Partisans Don't Understand Each Other (and it's worst among educated liberals) ...

govols comments on Jun 28, 2019:

I've read enough on this topic that I'll pass on the article, but I'll toss out an idea as to why: The more you know, the less rational a traditional framework seems, and the more ridiculous leftist theory proves to be. I crawled all into the privilege/power/oppression theory and find it lacking ...

govols replies on Jun 28, 2019:

The educated left don't yet realize that their theology isn't science, so they think they're all reason and shit when they're really as faith based and gut-instinct driven as the traditionalists they hate. If they ever take the time to realize their own emperor is as naked as any that came before, maybe they'll again recognize a tyrant when they see one.

While watching the first round of Democratic debates last night, I was struck by how choreographed ...

EdNason comments on Jun 27, 2019:

the activist pick the candidate, then the candidate that wins the nomination makes a hard right turn to left of center to not lose the independents. The problem is the rhetoric needed to win the nomination will be used against them in the general election. I can already see the attack ads by Trump ...

govols replies on Jun 27, 2019:

I'm not sure this bunch will be able to swing back to the center from the positions they're currently staking out.

More about Google's bias.

VicTrem1 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

I’d love to see Paul Thegard do a live debate with JBP

govols replies on Jun 26, 2019:

@tigercake To my limited understanding philosophy and law are the major schools of argumentation. Psychology, not so much. JBP is a solid thinker and presenter but lacks training where debate is in play.

Although I oppose the ill perceptive that the MGTOW philosophy brings to a man, I think this brings ...

govols comments on Jun 26, 2019:

This guy has about as punchable a voice as I've ever heard.

govols replies on Jun 26, 2019:

I'm just looking back trying to imagine my life if I'd lived it shunning relationships with women. I'm glad my experience has been positive.

More about Google's bias.

VicTrem1 comments on Jun 26, 2019:

I’d love to see Paul Thegard do a live debate with JBP

govols replies on Jun 26, 2019:

Problem with Peterson and debate is he has no solid training in philosophy, dialectics, or rhetoric...as near as I can tell.

Although I oppose the ill perceptive that the MGTOW philosophy brings to a man, I think this brings ...

govols comments on Jun 26, 2019:

This guy has about as punchable a voice as I've ever heard.

govols replies on Jun 26, 2019:

@DesireNoDesires It sounds like an effort to be hypnotic. MGTOW followers need to go to church instead of bars and coffee shops. The idea that women so horribly suck is a misunderstanding of what relationships are made of. There aren't many THOTs at church. Instead there are the daughters of parents involved in spiritual and adult relationships. And no, I don't generally do churchianity, but there is value to finding one that really is supportive of relationship building and meaningful interaction with like-minded others that we can join with as USs.

Although I oppose the ill perceptive that the MGTOW philosophy brings to a man, I think this brings ...

govols comments on Jun 26, 2019:

This guy has about as punchable a voice as I've ever heard.

govols replies on Jun 26, 2019:

Is it a damned computer?

‘We need a rational left’ (who is liked by conservatives :))

Naomi comments on Jun 24, 2019:

This is a rather confusing statement BW makes, I know. But when a true leftist like him speaks, it make as good sense as when a true conservative, like Sir Roger, speaks.

govols replies on Jun 24, 2019:

It isn't confusing. I'm a liberal. I'm a traditionalist. The two aren't mutually exclusive. I'm a modernist in thinking that we might discover rational truths. I'm a traditionalist in thinking that our social structures are mandatory to the extent that structure will always exist and be necessary. I'm a liberal in that I wonder whether some of our social structures might not be nearing something akin to obsolescence. I think something around a third to half of us need faith in order to trust the structures of society as being on our side. The ones of us who are tinkering with the edges need to really explain why the tinkering is necessary. Anecdotes are required to create a framework, but real evidence is required if the framework is to be taken on faith.

‘We need a rational left’ (who is liked by conservatives :))

govols comments on Jun 24, 2019:

I like Bret and many other liberals but I really want all of those playing at IDW to get on with their disciplines and making presentations of their subject matter instead of so much time at politics and speech.

govols replies on Jun 24, 2019:

@Naomi Brett did a talk called "how the magic trick is done" that was very, very worthwhile, still, his work in biology is really interesting and the distractions are quite the shame.

Professor Hanson posted a list of classical literature to read dealing with the nature of man, war, ...

govols comments on Jun 24, 2019:

Keep reposting it from time to time. It's a great tool for all of us.

govols replies on Jun 24, 2019:

I have now it bookmarked. Thanks!

CNN Makes Combination YouTube / Gab Hit Piece [youtu.be]

govols comments on Jun 24, 2019:

I'm wondering if we shouldn't just ignore CNN from now on. Efforts to offer up critical content serves only to validate CNN. Reject and ignore seems most appropriate.

govols replies on Jun 24, 2019:

@jwhitten CNN is a manufacturer of questionable narratives.

On all of the posts that scroll down into obscurity.

Garsco comments on Jun 20, 2019:

I try to open all that I can and give a look. Can’t watch all the long videos or read all the extra long ones, but I suppose that’s true of all of us. My thanks to all as well and to govols for the post.

govols replies on Jun 20, 2019:

@Babou yes, a brief comment on why a video or article is important is appreciated.

From one of my sons.

cepstralspike comments on Jun 20, 2019:

I get the fork and the spaghetti head. I don't know what the [ button head ? ] is about.

govols replies on Jun 20, 2019:

@tigercake Well, knowing that's a French outlet helps a lot.

To start things off, here's a podcast link from May 21st, 2019 Defending The West From The West - ...

govols comments on Jun 19, 2019:

We (from other cultures) can take your material innovation and raise it, because we don't have to bother with your ideas of individual sovereignty and liberty.....

govols replies on Jun 20, 2019:

@purdyday I was referring to about 8-10 minutes in haw China ships look like western ships, etc, and Japan's old practice of emulation of technology. We can take your "stuff" and do it more and do it better because we don't have to bother with 9th circuit or EPA; we just do it. We don't have to protect workers, environment, we don't answer to a governing society.

If you have seen this one before it may be worth seeing again, it's that good. [facebook.com]

govols comments on Jun 19, 2019:

I find him really hard to tolerate when he has a script.

govols replies on Jun 19, 2019:

@ScottforKing I enjoy his lectures and interviews but his reading aloud is hard for me to hear.

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govols comments on Jun 19, 2019:

We (from other cultures) can take your material innovation and raise it, because we don't have to bother with your ideas of individual sovereignty and liberty.....

govols replies on Jun 19, 2019:

Um...wrong post.

The unmeaningful life is also worth doing.

FaithJones comments on Jun 18, 2019:

Life is like a game without rules so I think it passes the time to set goals I would like to achieve, some things to leave behind to prove I existed. It's directionless otherwise.

govols replies on Jun 19, 2019:

@FaithJones Don't take it down. You've already paid the price of sharing it, and leaving might be helpful to those who happen upon it.

The unmeaningful life is also worth doing.

jwhitten comments on Jun 17, 2019:

>> Peterson is all about the meaning, and it beats the hell out of any message intended to promote meaninglessness, but still...even without meaning the being itself is worth the misery it sometime subjects us to. It's up to you to supply the meaning. For me, it was (is) my kids. When young ...

govols replies on Jun 19, 2019:

@jwhitten I'm reminding you.

So, I was in high school in the 80s.

DanielEvans comments on Jun 19, 2019:

The sentiment is still true in that more and more we see black men with white women. The expression of such a dynamic back then was funny and still is today... I'd laugh my ass off. There are places that kind of humor can today still be expressed in mixed race settings and nobody take ...

govols replies on Jun 19, 2019:

Ya know, that's part of what's being tamped out today. The environment of human interaction is sometimes horrifying in the whole of its reality,and the crazy thought police on the left have all but obliterated our previous ability to look into the face of it through vulgar humor.

So, I was in high school in the 80s.

chuckpo comments on Jun 19, 2019:

That's like way at the outside of outrageous humor. I'm pretty outrageous, but there are lines I don't cross--even with good friends where we joke around about race or religion or whatever other ism makes everyone uncomfortable. I wouldn't even make that joke in front of my immediate family. Think ...

govols replies on Jun 19, 2019:

Like I said above, I don't remember the whole of the context, but it was a multi-player conversation that was getting tense and escalating. The comment actually blew off the tension and broke the spell of hostility that was brewing. It was a different world.

something odd has gone with my youtube account today.

purdyday comments on Jun 18, 2019:

Yes, the ability to share also requires some persistence and ignoring the two suggested options of Twitter or Facebook.