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If an AI system, trained by feeding it all the text on the Internet, ends up concluding racist things, would that more suggest that racism is real or that the racist things are true?

A couple of months ago, a powerful AI system called GPT-3 learned how to relate words and concepts by reading a huge amount of text on the Internet (giving extra weight to curated sites like Wikipedia). As a test, Jerome Pesenti prompted it to write tweets based on the individual words of Jews, black, women, holocaust and discovered it generated some tweets with politically-incorrect opinions. While it received a lot of press about how AI just perpetrates bigotry ( [medium.com], [nationalfile.com] ), none asked the opposite question: Could the politically-incorrect results be more likely to contain some truth as they came from the collective wisdom of the market of ideas in a way similar to how stock markets are efficient in determining prices?

Before chalking these tweets up to "Garbage in, Garbage out", consider the results when I used [taglines.ai] (one application built from GPT-3) to create taglines for this site using just the text of our "about us" page. It returned the following:

  • The free and open exchange of ideas
  • We're a group of people who want to make the world better
  • Building Civil Discourse
  • Our mission is to bring together people who want Political Debate without the vitriol
  • A place to talk about solutions, not problems.
  • Where minds meet.
  • The Free Exchange of Ideas
  • The global home for free debate

As this clearly isn't "Garbage Out", could it suggest that there might be some truth in the tweets... perhaps not explicitly, but conceptually as one would get if was doing a brainstorming session? I agree with the press that most of the tweets are garbage, they also contain elements that could be debatable.

For what its worth, Microsoft just exclusively licensed GPT-3 for its upcoming products.

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Give a Monkey a typewriter and in enough time it will type a coherent sentence, the sentence may not reflect how the monkey feels or what it is thinking its just random chance,
To express racist views or to speak in a negative way of something requires a certain Level of emotional reaction to it, for all its ability a computer no matter how advanced has not yet learned to be emotional and thus cannot be a statement based on belief.

It depends on what you mean by emotional. GPT-3 has been able to generate text in a style of famous writers [reddit.com]

Using GPT-3 to generate Harry Potter in the style of various famous authors:

Ernest Hemingway:

"It was a cold day on Privet Drive. A child cried. Harry felt nothing.| He was dryer than dust. He had been silent too long. He had not felt love. He had scarcely felt hate. Yet the Dementor's Kiss killed nothing. Death didn't leave him less dead than he had been a second before. It wasn't about living or dying really. It wasn't about death. It was about the Dark Lord, his creator, his engenderer. He was not resurected. He was created again. He was whole again in the courtyard of Malfoy Manor."

Jane Austen:

"It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a broken Harry is in want of a book. This he knows to his cost; pressing that wretched nose against the window of a bookstore in Diagon Alley the last thing before he goes into hiding for several years, where upon, he goes straight to Azkaban."

Bram Stoker:

"Tis a fearful sight to see the cold, girlish venom run through his veins, one by one. The scar coruscates; a ghastly emerald lightning in the dark of night. But I'll attend him and I watch him From the very moment the dawn is gray To the rays of sunset fading away."

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It's all judgement-based. None are true or false. People are extremely complex, we cannot understand ourselves. We just think we are so smart, but we aren't. So it would only know what we think of ourselves, that's it. Even when working with "data," values of judgement are not objective and the tags we use to judge it, the ones that we feed it, are just not clear enough. We are playing with fire using a map from the Paleolithic of human nature trying to find Tomorrowland or our worth, our value, our efforts. You people are insane. Y'all muy realize you have no idea what you are talking about. I mean, just try judging one single Jew on one action in one circumstance. Can you objectively determine how greedy he was? No. Not even close. You suck. What makes you think you are in any way, shape, or form qualified to instruct anybody on how to judge? Seriously. And then wanting to know if lo Jews are always greedy? People make me sick. When are we finally wñe up to the fact that our languages are wrong, our perceptions are wrong, our understanding of ourselves is wrong, as that we shouldn't be creating God's when we can't even figure out if we are gender-fluid or stupid-kin. Jesus Christ. Get a clue, people! Fuck!

A1fredo Level 8 Sep 25, 2020

Interesting point as truth and opinion are fuzzy concepts... and AI could simply tally up opinions and output them as "truth". There must be a reason why Google autocomplete gives suggestions for "Potatoes are" but not for "(white|black|jewish) people are".

@Admin because google isnt able to comprehend our social constructs of "race", it only understands people as being people...and people are...STRANGE

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Prejudice is a kind of discrimination which, I suspect, automatically kicks in, in "human" reasoning, when all relevant facts are not known. Further data can and should diminish prejudice in human reasoning. It cannot be stressed too forcefully that discrimination is a survival skill for which further data is only beneficial. Bigotry is not discrimination. It is indiscriminately judgmental and not conducive to survival in the long run.

I would be curious to know how AI approaches, understands (if it indeed can) and deals with emotions. I think what doesn't get stated enough is that historically every race has preferred the company of its own kind. Not to say that they might not tolerate other races but that there PREFERENCE is for their own kind. If this is racism then it is real but I think it must be accepted as natural and normal.
Bigotry is muted -and sometimes not so muted- hatred; a failure of human intellect to overcome unreasonable (indiscriminate) prejudice.

For machine learning systems like GPT-3, they can be made to consider emotions as defined by an objective function - a numerical value that is calculated to reflect the "goodness" of a result weighed by how it predicts its output would impact its reader.

@Admin "Defined," "objective function," "numerical value," "calculated," "weighed" and "predicts." These terms are reflective of intellect not emotion. I would suggest that even if the systems like GPT-3 are able to "consider" emotions, until they are required to "stand under" them they cannot really understand them. I doubt seriously that a numerical sequence will ever be able to reproduce the sensory consequence of elevated hormonal responses that inform some emotions. Fight/flight is as fast as any supercomputer but is frequently not at all rationally based.

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