Well, I for one am not suprised. I was briefly suprised they broke in, but not all that suprised they tried. MSM and politicians are absolutely reacting exactly as expected.
"White supremacists", "domestic terrorists", have been so over used, they have no real impact anymore. Riots, and political violence has been going on for so long, it's been normalized.
This will not change the outcome of this election. A young woman, who was shot in the neck inside, has died. MSM is reporting on this as if they have no idea how we got to this point. They continue to point their fingers at Trump as being the sole reason we are here. They are absolutely clueless about their own part they played, but they aren't wrong as far as Trump not conceding the election goes.
Trump put out a brief video urging patriots to be peaceful and go home. It was suppressed by Twitter, supposedly because it included language that "incites violence". He still maintains the election was stolen, and that's a sentiment shared by many.
Personally, I'm pissed. I don't think any of this will change anything, but where was this response by MSM and politicians when cities were being burned to the ground? Taking the fight to the politicians is much different. Where's the "mostly peaceful" bs they crammed down our throats while reporting in front of burning buildings and car lots up in flames?
I'm still trying to sort through my own feelings, but I'm very angry. Since the day Trump took office, the deck was stacked against conservatives. I may not have liked everything Trump did, and I don't condone violence of any kind, but if these idiot politicians don't figure this shit out without continuing to demonize patriots, it will get worse.
Trump can't stop this. Biden can't stop this. No single news journalist or politician can stop this. It's going to take a hell of a lot more than virtue signaling to fix this. Unlike BLM, however, politicians think they don't even have to try to appeal to patriots. The patriots are the monsters in all their stories of oppression. They're the ones that created the big, bad, "white supremacist" monster. They wanted this boogie man, well, here it is.
I bet y’all think this is normal, too...and doesn’t it bear a resemblance to the federal election results? I like the way how four people’s votes can move in such clear unison, Dems surging together to pass their republican opponents at exactly the same time! Kinda makes,you believe in coincidence, doesn’t it?
Of course all this is being reported as Trump's fault.
Talk about a biased bunch of hypocrites running the media.
Not to mention the Democrats what a brainless bunch of Woke idiots.
also I don't think there was 1 sentence in Biden's speech that didn't reflect directly on the Democrats and their behaviour over the years of Trumps Presidenccy particularly the last year.
I have been watching the coverage of the "RIOT" in DC!!!
There have been several comments by the "talking heads" about how quickly the "demonstrators" were able to get into the Capital Building!!!!!
ONE, Anti-fa has had lots of experience breaking into buildings, TRUMP supports have not!!!
TWO, DC and Capital Police claim not to have been prepared!!!! I wore a badge for over 25 years, if they were not prepared the police desperately need new command staff!!!
They're probably hoping to delay the counting of the electoral votes and force a constitutional crisis in which either the President or the white supremacist-dominated Supreme Court will take action to establish a fascist dictatorship. I doubt they will succeed because they haven't unified the capitalist elites.
Suck it up. Trump lost the election, oh and by the way, the latest result from Georgia may not be to the Right's liking either.
2020 must really suck, what with the fake news, fake pandemic, cabals around every corner and don't get me started on those neo marxist commie's, they're everywhere!
It was the Senate, actually.
Do you really believe everything you hear on TV? After all this, do you believe anything you hear on TV?
Your questions are useful to provoke discussion, but I’m dismayed by the way you reflexively accept the left’s framing of the topic, and their language.
What if—gasp—certain facts that run counter to the “narrative” are being covered up? GOSH! We’ve never seen that before.
For five years, everything from the media has been at best disinformation, at worst, cold, calculated lies to manipulate outcomes. And now, all of a sudden, everything they say is unvarnished truth?
Gimme me a fucking break. Do your homework. Come on. This one isn’t even a stretch.
after stoking the fire for 4 years the MSM and left are still blaming Trump, I would suggest they focus on stuff like walking back ideas about stacking the supreme court and other nefarious ideas. They need to focus on defusing this while they have time.
In regards to the guns being drawn and cops drawing theirs in the process, it's too early to say for sure who was behind that, and I cannot find enough sources saying the same thing. When ANTIFA/BLM had rioted, we were told to hold judgment as some of those rioters could have been the Proud Boys pretending to be ANTIFA in order to make them look bad. Okay fair enough, but the same should also apply now as well, maybe ANTIFA agents have infiltrated the Proud Boys posing as one of them to make them look bad. Only difference here is, that notice how the mainstream medias were quick to jump on the first act of perceived violence regarding the Trump supporters and yet the same medias were hesitant to condemn ANTIFA and BLM when they tore up the city of Portland? This issue with protesters from both political sides is truly one-sided where medias are concerned.
Playing to people's fears is another big issue there, and predictably enough alot of those on the political left are playing along with the fearmongering and even a few conspiracy theories. The ironic part is, the left complained when the right did that with ANTIFA and BLM, and yet they turn around and do the same thing that they accused the right of doing. Small wonder why this country is screwed up, the elites from both political parties have succeeded in getting people to be afraid of another who does not share in their views, and the division only appears to be getting worse.
I'm not a US citizen so I'll try to be very careful about what I say here. Also I haven't been, the past few days, keeping up with the news. I also started writing this in the morning, Cairo time, on and off, and now I'm back to resume writing it and I found that total 4 are now dead (I don't know much details yet) in the Capitol and Mike Pence certified The Big Guy. What a sad day for the US and the rest of the world!
It's sad that things got to this point. Ashli Babbitt, an unarmed Air Force veteran was shot dead inside the Capitol building.
Much respect to Babbitt. And allow me to share a thought on that. I think Babbitt, as many others, went to DC well aware to the risks that include getting killed or at least being arrested and persecuted without probably much or any legal cover unlike those BLM and Antifa thugs shooting/looting/vandalizing knowing they have support of organizations and even a US presidential candidate's campaign funds for bail and legal defense. And don't get me wrong, what I'm saying is not meant to belittle the situation or her sacrifice at all, on the contrary. I think she probably considers it her duty whether in military service or not. In fact, I have this thought because I was in a similar situation and had this thought back when many other Egyptians and I took to the streets protesting The Muslim Brotherhood [un]constitutional declaration of 2012 in which they protected presidential decrees from being challenged in courts (including the Supreme Constitutional Court), similarly the Shura Council and the Constituent Assembly both which they controlled and replaced the Attorney General. It was also similar because we know most of the police force are on our side but they have to do their job still and protect civilians, public and private properties and maintaining law and order, which I think it's the case here as well. So we protested (and some even clashed with the police, but I never did), and they guard and fortify the streets and throw tear gas at us and try to disperse us. I was well aware I could get killed and was well aware of the risks. Of course I can't speak for Babbitt or any other, and it might not be the case, but I truly respect her sacrifice either way and her military service before that.
That being said, I'm not advocating for violence. I'm a reformist as long as it's possible, but sometimes it becomes necessary to revolt. But are we at that point yet?!
And what the hell has Mike Pence done?!!! WTF?!!! Didn't he say we will have our day in Congress?!!! I never liked that guy (even though he may have seemed to be fit to be a Statesperson to some degree but certainly now that's gone).
And I don't know for sure, but isn't there still pending court cases including Trump's case before the Supreme Court? Is it still possible for the Supreme Court to intervene? I'm asking but I sadly don't expect much from them anyway. Is there anyway this could still be overturned?
I hope my words don't get misunderstood. And please excuse the little rant.
What I have been concerned about is the point of no return where our differences become irreconcilable via ordinary political process. I don't know that we are there, but I am certain we are getting very close.
I see talking heads saying there is never, ever any cause to resort to violence, but that is something those on the Left already don't believe -- if they ever have. And the founders certainly knew there was a point where resort to force of arms was both necessary and prudent.
This is going to be painted by most of the media as some horrible transgression fully in the lap of Trump, and part and parcel of who the Trump republicans are; unlike how they characterized Antifa and BLM violence when it occurs. The narrative is being shaped in a way that makes reconciliation ever more difficult.
There is a small set of voices on the Right pushing for a revolution; I generally think that's a bad idea, but I can foresee a time where it would be the least bad of many bad options. And calling for revolution is already mantra for many extremist leftist groups -- and their mainstream political rhetoric already calls for fundamental and revolutionary changes to our country -- they just carefully, and perhaps with a wink and nod, exclude deliberate violence from it.
I don't see it getting better.
Both Democrats and Republicans are equally to blame for this. The Republicans for feeding conspiracy BS and blind hatred for the left in their bid to take over the United States and keep their leadership positions for life. The Democrats for completely losing sight of trying to bring a livable income to those who are falling behind day by day. Instead they have been concentrating on the few who's feelings are hurt because "they don't get no respect." There always will be and should be wealthy people. The wealthy need to pay their fair share in supporting the institution that is providing them with essential services that enhance their ability to create wealth.