I think so.

The happy medium comes with empathy, an understanding of the types of oppression that the other experiences, and an end to the "oppression olympics".

Trans activists need to acknowledge the importance of biological sex when it comes to sex-segregated spaces, sports, reproductive rights, sexuality, etc.

Trans activists also need to focus more on mainstream acceptance rather than having all of their feelings and opinions validated. It isn't bigotry if a straight, cisgender person doesn't agree with all tenants of a trans person's philosophy of gender. What matters is that they treat them the same way they would treat a cis person.

Trans people are real and there are real instances of trans oppression which feminists need to acknowledge- like people who have fully transitioned being barred from bathrooms, the higher likelihood of trans people being murdered, actual verbal harassment (not just someone disagreeing with you), trans people being alienated from their families and communities simply for being trans, etc.

Women's issues are real and there are some forms of oppression that only/disproportionately affect cis women, like our reproductive rights being compromised, the tampon tax, or it being implied from birth that we aren't capable of the same things as men, domestic violence, etc. Trans activists need to acknowledge this. They also need to acknowledge that female-only spaces are important for our safety.

Above all, everyone needs to stop turning oppression into a competition. When we argue about who has it worse, we end up fighting with each other over shit that doesn't matter instead of fighting actual oppression and ultimately we just slow each other down.

This is by no means a comprehensive description of what that happy medium looks like, it's just what I wish both groups would understand.

No, because "trans activism" has devolved into a puritanical steamroller that seeks to destroy homosexual attraction, female sex based segregation, and erodes the definition of the trans label.

No longer is it acceptable to be same sex attracted, lest you be labeled a "bigot" or "unhealthy" as described by Malcolm Clark on Twitter after he debated a TRA on The Nolan Show.

No longer can biological females mention cervical cancer, endometriosis, PCOS, pregnancy, or any other female specific health conditions, lest they be labeled as "exclusionary", "hateful", "bigoted", etc. Even major cancer organizations have rearranged language and screening procedures to accommodate trans women, which is a ridiculous placation that only furthers the fetishizing of women's bodies and health issues. There has been no push to do this with male health issues such as prostate cancer to appease trans men.

No longer does transitioning need to happen for you to be trans. Through self ID, "activists" have begun to erode the definition of trans people to the point of it being meaningless. If you're "challenging" gender stereotypes at all, congratulations! You're trans! Enjoy bullying everyone with impunity with slurs, threats, and false narratives to get everything you want.

It's no longer about protecting trans people. It's about destroying them because jealous fetishists want to feel "valid" and "special". It's not about "pride". It's about subjugation. It's not about equal rights. It's about manipulating people having relations with you out of pity.

Feminism - at its core - is about ending sex based female oppression. Stopping FGM, child brides, rapists from gaining custody of children that were a result of their crimes, wage gaps (I'm aware of the conflicting studies. I'm also aware that it is a thing in some places and isn't in others.), discrimination, and objectification via violent pornography.

Is there a toxic side to feminism that is focused on "Kill all men" and female entitlement - "We should be in charge of everything"? Yes. There are toxic sides to every movement.

However, this is not the majority of feminists in my experience. They aren't changing legislature to erode the rights of others on such a large scale as the trans activists currently are.

Already, crime statistics are being manipulated, biology is being ignored, and children are being told on a regular basis that if they don't adhere to strict gender stereotypes that they should transition because they are in the wrong body. Even the Miriam Webster dictionary is being changed to suit this toxic activism.

It is anti feminist, anti trans, and anti LGB.

All of us used to believe so, which is why we added the "T" and worked hard to get transwomen and men access to equal opportunity. We extended a great deal of trust, especially those of us who are "adult human females". No appreciation is given publicly for this. Just ONWARDS!

People like JK Rowling were strong LGBT advocates and you can see what they are doing to her now for saying only that free speech should be allowed and that Maya Forstater should not lose her job. When Magdalen Berns died her Twitter and LGBT twitter in general had "ding dong the witch is dead" and "the only good TERF is a dead TERF".

I'm sorry but, no, there is no middle ground. We tried finding a middle ground and they pushed forward. Now, r/actual lesbians r/twochromosomes and r/actual women ban anyone who says what JK Rowling said as "hate speech" and any lesbian who says they only want someone with their same sex genitals is also banned for "hate speech". Where is the middle ground?

They are basically shoving conversion therapy on lesbians and bisexual women using social media. We are back to praying the gay away only there's no cookies and punch to go with it.

When the Right and evangelicals were doing this we outright condemned them and said ZERO QUARTER but when TRAs do this we look for middle ground.

For Magdalen Berns I say NO. NONE. I am prepared to die on this hill because of all the feminists who fought for years, lost jobs, were beaten, were thrown in jail to get us the right to safe, sex-segrated spaces.

-signed Adult Human Female

Depends on the kind of feminism; third, fourth and fifth wave feminism would be able to fit the transgender politics and ideologies in - but the second wave feminist aka what most Gender Critical feminists are would disagree, since trans ideology erases the very definition and essence of being a woman, which are still being contensted, politicised and oppressed irl.

Current-year, radical trans activism cannot co-exist with feminism. Radical trans activism tries to obliterate the notion of biological sex, while feminism relies on it. Radical "TRAs" dismiss women's concerns about Rapid-Onset Gender Dysphoria, pediatric transition, and men who exploit the self-ID / informed consent model. They suppress critical thought and try to cancel anyone who disagrees with their ideology. They abuse lesbians and gay guys via "cotton ceiling" gaslighting. And they harass the hell out of women over minor bullshit. But I personally do not consider this cancerous strain of "activism" to be true trans activism. I have no beef with rational trans activists who acknowledge biological sex and engage in respectful dialogue. Those people are fighting to address the unique struggles that their community faces, without encroaching on women's rights. That type of trans activism can co-exist with feminism.

Once you re-prioritise biology over identity, sex over gender then there is room to compromise as a lot of the problems will go away. It is not trans v lezzas that is the problem, it is gender theory that is the problem.

I personally think it is possible for the 2 to coexist, but that's only possible it the TRAs stop denying the existence of and importance of biological sex as both a part of society and as individuals, AND acknowledge the fact that it is gender dysphoria that makes a person trans, and not personality/preferences. For many years, feminism was a fight for "gender equality" because gender and sex were used interchangeably. Now, in our modern society, looking back I feel that was more of a fight for "sex equality" (eg giving females the right to vote). I think the only way for the two to coexist is by having trans activism "add onto" feminism. Use feminism as a baseline for trans activism.

By acknowledging that women are adult females without gender dysphoria, we now have a "definition" for what it means to be a woman. This now gives trans women something to transition INTO, in terms of physical appearance/sex characteristics. Woman would actually MEAN something. Same with men, who would be defined as adult males without gender dysphoria.

Making sure that it is gender dysphoria that determines if a person is trans or not would also back a very important part of feminism- fighting against gender/sex stereotypes. A masculine woman is not a man. A masculine woman is not non-binary. A masculine woman is a woman. For me, gender dysphoria is a key part of allowing feminism and trans activism to work together. Without it, gender then becomes harmful stereotypes which could result in an increase in people transitioning and regretting it.

Another key part of allowing the two to work together is looking at the consequences of mixing sexes. For example, in toilets. A trans woman who has female secondary sex characteristics will probably feel uncomfortable going into a male restroom, and will likely make the people in that restroom feel uncomfortable too. This is, of course, because she passes as a female. She should be able to use the female restroom (in my opinion). However, when it comes to trans people PRE transition, I believe there should be a 3rd option- gender neutral toilets. These should not replace the old ones, but act as an alternative.

Another issue is the merging of male and female sports. I won't go into too much detail about this, since chances are anyone reading this will agree that trans women should not compete against biological females in sports due to their biological advantage.

Now, let's talk about non-binary people. I think this is the trickiest part of the whole debate. Whether you believe non-binary people exist or not, that's irrelevant for what I'm going to say. Let's assume they do. Let's assume they get gender dysphoria. I believe feminism could work alongside this, so long as (like I said) biological sex is acknowledged and accepted, and they are diagnosed with dysphoria. However, I do not think other gender identities, such as agender and trigender, would work in this as dysphoria seems more like SEX dysphoria, where you are uncomfortable with a sex, so therefore there would only be a maximum of 3 categories to fit in (if non binary dysphoria did exist, which would be dysphoria towards both the male and female sex). Any more than 3 categories trivialises what it means to be a gender, and therefore makes a woman just an identity.

So yes, I think they CAN coexist,- but only parts of trans activism (no more than 3 gender categories), and they have to be "2 parts of a puzzle", where feminism fights for women's/female's rights and trans activism builds upon that by acknowledging biology and the difference between males and female, and fight for acceptance and the ability to live a life as close to the sex they wish they were born as.

SIDE NOTE- This is something the community is getting wrong, in my opinion. They aren't fighting for acceptance. They are fighting for validation, and "forcing" people to believe in things that have no basis in actual science (97 genders) and instead is based on personality.

Like all issues I do think a happy medium could be found if we removed the oppressive extreme minorities on both sides. They are so vocal and ruin anyone who isn't on their side. It makes it impossible for any of us to have honest discussions that would allow society to reach a middle ground.

For feminism and trans activists to co exist you would have to redefine the definition of what is a women to the point where it doesn't mean anything. That's the price of inclusion. If everyone is special than no one is.

I think trans activism and feminism COULD co-exist, theoretically. But it won't. Women are being collectively left out of extremely important conversations and policy-making that affects us. Trans people (especially trans women) have a ridiculous amount of social power. It is almost exclusively women, lesbians, gender critical/RFs being de-platformed from major social media spaces like Twitter and FB. It is clear who is being prioritized, and whose voices matter. The same voices that have always mattered most. Male voices, male feelings, male entitlement.

A great example of this, that black womanists are pointing out- is the BLM movement (a sentiment which I support at the base). Only black men and black trans women are being talked about, despite being murdered far less than black women, and women in general.

It is, and has always been clear. We cannot coexist with someone who does not allow us to speak without physical, social, legal consequences. Without doxxing, costing us our jobs, livelihoods, affecting our children's lives, daily rape and death threats (from trans identified males and men, not women and trans identified females), and even physical assaults.

It won't stop until we (women of the world) stop tippy toe-ing, walking on eggshells, catering, pandering, and capitulating. Lesbians accepting penises for the sake of male feelings and validation of their "womanhood" through their limited male perception.

We are women, they are trans women. We need to stop feeling sorry and apologizing for being fiercely defensive of our (and our DAUGHTERS) rights, safety, spaces, and resources. No one else should be dick-tating what our rights and spaces should be doing for others. If they want to fight for their own spaces and rights, I know that most feminists will fight with them. Males should not be dicktating how girls and women should feel when encountering obvious men in our spaces (a trauma response and self preservation tactic we CANNOT turn off); males should not be dicktating what "womanhood" is, what "woman" means, how "female" is defined. We women have been collectively sacrificing our own best interests for the sake of others for far too long. It's time to start prioritizing ourselves- and stop apologizing for doing so.

My daughter is 9 and I fear for her, and I won't shut up just to cater to a minority of trans identified male feelings. I will support their basic human rights, but it ends there. I will not sacrifice women and girls' rights for them.

I think the activists on both sides make it unlikely. I think the quiet majorities of both can easily, and wonderfully, coexist and thrive.

I don't know how to get rid of the screeching loud voices because INITIALLY they often blaze a trail for actual benefits...

Trans activism and feminism at their current form should not exist in my opinion. The now 4th wave of the feminism religion (they really act like a religion if you look closely) are working on demolishing everything the feminism movements of the 20s and the 60s has done. The trans activism is plagued with irrational blokes who shout "BuT mUh FeEfEeS" whenever their rediculous claims fall apart. Unless those 2 branches of activism change drastically, they will cause more harm than good.

As long as there are trans-activists claiming there is no such thing as women, or that women need to redefine their spaces to be more inclusive to biological men - feminists are going to be pissed. As long as there are feminists who believe ALL transgender individuals think alike, or that gender dysphoria is a myth - the trans community is going to be pissed. At this point everyone in this struggle, people on both sides, believe their opinions are facts so no one is going to back down. The Happy medium would be for everyone to chill the fuck out and stop with the identity politic bullshit - people who count will accept and love you for who you are, laws are in place to prevent discrimination (in some countries) who gives a fuck about anything else? Live happy and be you! Just my opinion tho... xx

Yes they can. The basic concept of feminism is that the genders are equal and deserve protection and rights. The basic concept of trans activism is that trans people are equal and deserve protection and rights. These ideas do not conflict. Average people from both groups are usually completely fine being around each other. The problems start when extremists from both sides make bs claims and outsiders see their views as the entire group's. If you cut out the crazy minority then trans activism and feminism can totally co-exist.

Feminism as it exists today is scarcely able to coexist with itself, let alone coexisting with something else

Yes, with balance. Supporting trans identity doesn't have to mean erasing biological women or their experiences. A dangerous trend I'm noticing, particularly with self identified trans women (always seems to be M2F trans) is demanding access to female spaces whilst still presenting predominantly as male. This, in my opinion, is completely at odds with feminism because we're back to square 1, in terms of having to accommodate a male. By the same token trans women experience a lot of the same issues as AFAB, particularly when it comes to male violence. As such i don't feel trans women should ever be excluded from feminism, but they need to make an effort and at least attempt to present as female rather than trying to be edgy and 'redefine' femininity.

Trans activism and feminism coexist not only when we ACTIVELY support each other within the community, wherever we land on the spectrum, but also when we open up a safe space to talk about intersecting topics. They coexist when we don’t shame people for wanting to be a part of the convo, especially when all parties are affected or play a part in the equation somehow. That’s how we learn and educate each other. We don’t always have to be right or wrong either, just willing to listen and perhaps crow. The happy medium is talking on ALL insercets, but give enough time and space to them those speaking on them. Hope that makes sense!

I think so but both sides needs to not invalidate each other’s experiences. Trans people can’t dismiss the fact the many women who are not experiencing gender dysphoria are submitting themselves to unneeded surgeries that will harm them. Of course there are people with gender dysphoria and gender reassignment surgery is the option for them to alleviate their dysphoria and live a better life. However, there needs to be better testing for gender dysphoria rather than just believing the person has it because they say so before these life changing alters to the body are done. That would help people who don’t actually need to transition from harming themselves while still allowing actual trans people to transition.

Now for the other side, we need to make sure we are validating trans people and their experiences. For example, saying trans women are not women or trans men are not men is harmful. They have gone through so much to transition into the person that they should be and they have lived experiences of that gender. Biological sex is what you are born as while gender is what you identify as, and being transgender means you identify as a different gender. Gender, at least to me, encompasses the behavioral, cultural, or psychological aspects typically associated with the sex you identify as. So trans people have the experiences of the sex they identify as, and by saying their not male or female, it’s invalidating. For example with trans women, I think it’s ok to make the distinction that they are not biologically female, but to say they are not female as a whole is harmful and invalidating, and I think that’s why some people get mad at those types of statements. (Kind of side note, I also believe non binary people can exist because they feel gender dysphoria as either male or female, so this also applies to them as well)

Overall, both sides need to stop invalidating the others experiences and identities. I think both sides quickly jump to conclusions on the issues each side discusses, like trans people thinking feminists are attacking all trans people when they are just speaking about people who don’t actually have gender dysphoria. No side is more important than the other, so if each side more closely examines the points the other is making, I believe they can coexist.

Once transwomen truly recognize our reality which is we were born male and have transitioned in order to and been treated as a woman in society

I'm saying no for now. Current trans activism has permeated much of the normal left and there is zero room for discussion and no acknowledgement of how it impacts biological women. They seem to be intent on conflict - and the trans community as a whole has not banded together to out this messaging/radical messengers, which unfortunately means it's
accurately representative.

If it becomes an actual cooperative allyship then that could change, but as it stands now trans activists and the general left are demanding women choose between being an advocate for trans people or advocating for themselves. That is a choice they shouldn't have to make.

I voted No, with nothing but love in my heart. I'm trans. I think that trans "Activism" in its present form is as out of control and toxic as Giant Hogweed. One of the most on-point comments in Arielle's recent video: if the huge bump in trans/gender non-conforming/gender non-binary teenage and pre-teen females were all about "'cuz now it's acceptable" - then where's the similar trans bump in the adult population, which you would expect to be a reservoir of pent-up gender dysphoria. Arielle is telling the truth as usual. Blaire tells the truth. As I said, I'm trans. My body is altered, my genetics, my biology are not. I can't pretend to be female or speak for females, although I move through life as a woman daily. Dating trans persons is not easy and it's not for everyone. As I have explained to my therapist, it's not at all surprising that we're very few humans' "favorite flavor." I have been asked out and dated by two amazing lesbians and an amazing woman who is bisexual (I have trouble initiating and participating in relationships because I am autistic,) but that is not something that can or should be required of or expected of anyone, and obviously not forced on anyone (there's a word for sex without consent.) I am not into dudes. It doesn't make me dude-phobic, or somehow Dude-Exclusionary Radical Trans. I am trans because ever since I was born, being a woman meant something to me, and that my brain thought I was meant to be a woman was as real and as much a part of me as my being half-blind. I can't explain it, they've named it gender dysphoria, whatever. Peace.

I believe they can. We as a community need to realize that we’re not going to agree on things 100%. Even though we may have different opinions we can still can coexist and possibly even be friends. Though people also need to realize that having a relationship or coexisting with any one requires compromise in some form or another from both sides. And with trans being the focus of the community currently there is no compromise. I hear so many feminists defending trans people and their human rights but hearing a trans person or persons stand up for women when when need it is slim to none. Feminism and trans activism can co exist if both parties support one another rather than continuously demonize the other (Not everyone does this just generalizing) And getting butt hurt over opinions. We first must realize that we all have the right to our own opinions and some need to realize that just because we have this right doesn’t mean we can force it on someone else.

I think you need to be more specific with which strands of feminism. Theres alot of us out there I think that are concerned about the push for equality turning into erasing any understanding of the pros and cons of our differences. We can acknowlege our physical differences and still have equal opportunity where it matters.
This isnt just a trans vs feminism issue. I see it all the time with the more toxic side of men and women.
The west is on the cusp of equality in many areas and feminism has achieved mammoth things in 120 years. And I think because we are getting closer it has given the opportunity for parts of society to acknowledge intersex and trans people (I wouldnt be suprised if trans turned out to be a form of intersex eventually)

If we can talk to each other respectfully and treat each other as individuals we can co-exist with no issue. I think the next step toward equality is more akin to equity and individualism than identity politics.

I voted no because the assholes on both sides are such that there can never be a compromise of any kind.i mean just look second wave feminists are now on the right ? I'm trans and conservative it kinda bothers me that the flower and the hippies are now right wing.

Trans activism seems like a really big bucket, as does feminism. I think there are parts of them or people in them that can, and parts of them and people in them that cannot happily co-exist. Same results most categorical boxes produce.