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The International Republican Web ???
Tati comments on May 4, 2020:
I don’t know... this site is about thinking and questioning. Liberals don’t do very much of that, do they? There are other progressive people though.
JacksonNought replies on May 4, 2020:
I would consider myself a liberal, and I do plenty of thinking and questioning.
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cRaZyTMG comments on May 4, 2020:
It's ok to meet violence with violence. It's not ok to use violence against peaceful people. Rebellion does not equal violence.
JacksonNought replies on May 4, 2020:
@TimTuolomne I get my news from many sources. I look at both left-leaning and right-leaning news. I do my own research and fact checking. I take nothing at face value. I see things in real life. I would ask if you yourself are brainwashed? Do you only believe things you see from right-leaning news, like Fox News, Ben Shapiro, InfoWars, OAN, Townhall, etc? What kind of sources do you use, and do you think they might affect what you see?
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TimTuolomne comments on May 4, 2020:
Niestzsche on Leftists: "Your most secret ambition is to be tyrants and shroud yourself in words of virtue." They are "murderous and tyrannical beyond belief."
JacksonNought replies on May 4, 2020:
I hope you don't just pick and choose when Nietzsche can be used to validate your narrative? Of Conservatives: "They wanted to take mankind back, to screw it back, to a former measure of virtue." "Today too there are still parties whose dream it is that all things might walk backwards like crabs. But no one is free to be a crab. Nothing avails: one must go forward — step by step further into decadence (that is my definition of modern 'progress')." Of Christians: "Christianity was from the beginning, essentially and fundamentally, life's nausea and disgust with life, merely concealed behind, masked by, dressed up as, faith in 'another' or 'better' life." "The proof of such a claim is lacking. Certainly the Christian religion is an antiquity projected into our times from remote prehistory; and the fact that the claim is believed - whereas one is otherwise so strict in examining pretensions - is perhaps the most ancient piece of this heritage. A god who begets children with a mortal woman; a sage who bids men work no more, have no more courts, but look for the signs of the impending end of the world; a justice that accepts the innocent as a vicarious sacrifice; someone who orders his disciples to drink his blood; prayers for miraculous interventions; sins perpetrated against a god, atoned for by a god; fear of a beyond to which death is the portal; the form of the cross as a symbol in a time that no longer knows the function and ignominy of the cross -- how ghoulishly all this touches us, as if from the tomb of a primeval past! Can one believe that such things are still believed?" "If the Christian dogmas of a revengeful God, universal sinfulness, election by divine grace and the danger of eternal damnation were true, it would be a sign of weak-mindedness and lack of character not to become a priest, apostle or hermit and, in fear and trembling, to work solely on one's own salvation; it would be senseless to lose sight of ones eternal advantage for the sake of temporal comfort. If we may assume that these things are at any rate believed true, then the everyday Christian cuts a miserable figure; he is a man who really cannot count to three, and who precisely on account of his spiritual imbecility does not deserve to be punished so harshly as Christianity promises to punish him."
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cRaZyTMG comments on May 4, 2020:
It's ok to meet violence with violence. It's not ok to use violence against peaceful people. Rebellion does not equal violence.
JacksonNought replies on May 4, 2020:
@TimTuolomne it is never helpful to use blanket statements or generalities. Firstly, "Antifa" is a movement of people who are anti-fascist, it isn't an actual centralized organization - yes there are many who identified as "Antifa" and were violent, and I readily condemn them, but that doesn't mean all who identify are. Even more so with Leftist - you are making a gross generalization that all Leftists are violent and forceful, seemingly implying that Rightists are not. I could make a competing argument that Rightists are the ones who are violent and forceful. You have groups of them trying to storm the state capitol armed with assault rifles - is that not a threat of violence? These are the same people who called Kaepernick an "anti-American thug" and a "son of a bitch" for a silent non-violent protest action. Imagine if this was a Black Lives Matter group storming a Republican capitol with assault rifles - do you think they'd be as protected as these Rightist protesters? Alt-right groups in Charlottesville were violent and one of them murdered a woman. I have seen Rightists at Trump rallies attack Leftist protesters, even seeing someone pull a gun and shoot. I have personally seen Rightists try and force their point of view on others, whether that is trying to force a Christian theocracy or deny human rights based on their beliefs. But I will not make generalities and claim that all Rightists or anti-lockdown protesters are violent.
Prager U. "Social Justice Isn t Justice." [youtu.be]
JacksonNought comments on May 4, 2020:
Good thing we (who live in the USA) have a Constitution and a First Amendment with Freedom of Religion. That means it doesn't matter what it says in the Bible - we don't need to follow it. So starting with that is pointless, why bring it into the equation at all? You immediately disenfranchise ...
JacksonNought replies on May 4, 2020:
@TimTuolomne I agree with you, that the Bible has no place in politics, and many people misinterpret it or use it to justify their own hatred - without truly knowing what is in it. I do not believe any groups I mentioned deserve "special" consideration, but they need equal protection and equal rights. When I think of "social justice", I don't think of giving special rights to people or giving undeserved rights to "favored" people. I think of giving women the right to vote. Ending slavery and forced segregation. Allowing mixed-raced marriages. Allowing same-sex marriages. Removing criminal penalties for what two consenting adults do in their own bedroom. Removing laws that prevent Atheists from holding public office.
Try to think people! Trump is fighting against the UN One World Government, Chinese Communists, ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 28, 2020:
First off, one would need to agree with your assessment of what Trump is "fighting against" as true. You need to believe there is some secret "Deep State" cult out there, and then you need to assume he is fighting against it and not part of it himself. You need to believe he is an authentic ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 30, 2020:
@jakuboj nah, I'm done with you. You don't seem to have the reading comprehension to actually understand anything I said, since it isn't in little bite sized kindergarten level chunks. Are you Donald Trump masquerading on here? I hear he can't read either. By the way, verbal would imply spoken, not written. Against my better judgement, I played your game and broke it down more accessibly, with examples and evidence. You are still not satisfied, moving the goalposts yet again. And yet you still refrain from providing any evidence to your own claims. You initial premise is still flawed, saying that anyone who doesn't like Trump must support pedophilia and terrorist. You have exposed yourself to be a fraud, and I will not waste any further time conversing with you. You contribute nothing.
Try to think people! Trump is fighting against the UN One World Government, Chinese Communists, ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 28, 2020:
First off, one would need to agree with your assessment of what Trump is "fighting against" as true. You need to believe there is some secret "Deep State" cult out there, and then you need to assume he is fighting against it and not part of it himself. You need to believe he is an authentic ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 30, 2020:
@jakuboj ok, let's see if you honor your word. 1 - First off, I would ask you to provide your sources for your original claims. Not from fringe conspiracy groups. No Fox News, InfoWars, Blaze, Breitbart, OAN, TruNews, Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, Shapiro, Prager, Schlichter, etc. If you call mainstream media "left-wing" and "propaganda" then I can call these right-wing media groups propaganda as well. Research the truth yourself before you believe their lies, or you are no better. You must provide specific examples and what you feel supports these examples. Provide actual links to your sources, do not just tell me to research it myself. Show me that Trump is fighting against what you say he is. Show me that Trump stands up for what you say he does. Show me that the UN is trying to implement a Communist One-World Government, and that all left-wing politicians are explicitly supporting that agenda. 2 - You say Trump supports Christianity. Ok, so I would ask you if you think he supports any other religion, and true freedom of religion, or only Christianity. If you think he supports all religions, can you provide examples of him supporting Muslims or Atheists? If you think he only supports Christianity, and consider that a good thing, then why do you hate the Constitution and Freedom of Religion? 3 - Do you think he is an authentic Christian? He said "Two Corinthians" when everybody knows it is said ""Second Corinthians". He claimed his favorite book was the Bible, but couldn't provide an example of any verses he liked. He uses the phony "War on Christmas" during his rallies, promising that people will "say 'Merry Christmas' again" to fire up his base - even though people never stopped saying it. These are all things televised live on air. He has children with three different women, all of whom he cheated on - he paid hush money to a porn star to hide the fact that he cheated on his wife who had just given birth. This was well documented in trials, ending up with charges against his lawyer Michael Cohen. He is constantly hurling insults and lying - all well documented through his live speeches and Twitter feed - all things that are very un-Chrisitan. 4 - Going back to lying, do you believe he is an honest man? Let's use two examples. 1 - his constant "birtherism" that led to his popularity with the far-right. He constantly accused Obama of being born in Kenya. When Obama released his birth certificate, Trump accused him of fabricating it. Trump went on Fox News (you can watch it yourself, it is out there) and claimed he hired private investigators to go to Hawaii and dig up information; he claimed they were finding incredible things you wouldn't believe, and he would soon reveal the bombshell information. Obviously nothing came of it, and to help his ...
Try to think people! Trump is fighting against the UN One World Government, Chinese Communists, ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 28, 2020:
First off, one would need to agree with your assessment of what Trump is "fighting against" as true. You need to believe there is some secret "Deep State" cult out there, and then you need to assume he is fighting against it and not part of it himself. You need to believe he is an authentic ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 30, 2020:
@jakuboj got it. So to reply in any regard to my comments, I must rewrite them in a format you dictate, with specific sample and verified facts - but only if they come from sources you deem acceptable. But to trust your narrative, I am just directed to search things online myself and read between the lines.
I have a question for supporters of left wing politicians.
bry8lin4 comments on Apr 28, 2020:
To achieve a “new world order” (OWG) America’s sovereignty must be eliminated. There are at least 80 million patriotic Americans who will not allow that to happen. The reason President Trump has received such over- the - top unbridled hatred is he threw a monkey wrench in the left’s works ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
@jakuboj what part of publicly supporting, being a member of, working for, funding, signing agreements with and sitting on boards with, is insufficient proof for you that your politicians support the Christian Dominionist and Trump Monarchy agenda? How much more proof do you need? Ask one of them yourself whether they support making Trump "President for Life" or throwing out the Constitution in favor of Christian Theocracy and see what they say. Or are you afraid of reality like most righties? https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/christian-right-worships-donald-trump-915381/ https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-02-01/trumps-religious-liberty-sounds-a-lot-like-theocracy-readers-say https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-william-p-barr-delivers-remarks-law-school-and-de-nicola-center-ethics https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/05/trump-administration-will-launch-human-rights-panel-stresses-antigay-natural-law/
Try to think people! Trump is fighting against the UN One World Government, Chinese Communists, ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 28, 2020:
First off, one would need to agree with your assessment of what Trump is "fighting against" as true. You need to believe there is some secret "Deep State" cult out there, and then you need to assume he is fighting against it and not part of it himself. You need to believe he is an authentic ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
@jakuboj nope, I already provided my reasoning. You chose not to care. Did you provide specific examples backed up by verified facts to support your claims of a UN OWG Communist agenda, or that all left-wing politicians support it? Didn't think so.
Serious question.
energymixer comments on Apr 29, 2020:
How many times do people have to watch that creep Biden grope children before they realize he is a pedo and the people should not even allow him in the political arena. smh
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
How many times do we have to look at Trump's own admissions towards sexual assault and pedophilia (remember when he boasted that he would walk in on under-age pageant contestants changing) before the people realize he should not be allowed in the political arena?
I have a question for supporters of left wing politicians.
bry8lin4 comments on Apr 28, 2020:
To achieve a “new world order” (OWG) America’s sovereignty must be eliminated. There are at least 80 million patriotic Americans who will not allow that to happen. The reason President Trump has received such over- the - top unbridled hatred is he threw a monkey wrench in the left’s works ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
@Tati, thank you for accepting (what others here refuse to) that not all left-leaning people are "evil" or the "enemy" who want to overthrow America. Yes, Progressives support what they thing will be best for the country / world - much like Conservatives believe they are doing what is best. However, your implication that people on the left are unaware of what they are actually supporting, or are trying to overthrow the Constitution to create a OWG, is ludicrous. I could easily say the same of people on the right, and how they want to overthrow the Constitution in order to create a Christian Theocracy where they execute gay people and Atheists on the street. @jakuboj, again I could just say the same of the people you support. Look at their rallies. Look at their cult-like ceremonies laying hands on Trump and calling him the chosen one. Look at everything Pence has tried to do in his career. If you have been paying attention you would know that Trump is doing everything in his power to corrupt his position to enwealthen himself and his family, and subjugate the common people. He is doing everything in his power to overthrow the Constitution to give him emperor -level power, and is destroying our rights to please his rabid base by promoting blatant Christian favoritism. Read the documents or watch videos on them, there are many out there on YouTube. Then ask yourself why your leaders have never spoken out against the Conservative agenda. You have been conned by the Trump loyalists and Christian Dominionists.
I have a question for supporters of left wing politicians.
PhilaNDemTDs comments on Apr 28, 2020:
Could you give examples of left wing politicians who want a OWG? Also even the politicians who the farthest to the left, Bernie Sander, AOC etc, don't support communism, they support democratic socialism like Norway, Finland, Sweden etc.
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
@Tati, as I said previously, the USA already has Socialist programs. And those Socialist programs are not a slippery slope towards Communism. If that is the case, then Capitalism is a slippery slope towards Oligarchy and eventually Monarchy. So let's get rid of Captialism, right? Things work in moderation, and you implement working ideas from different ideologies to make a functioning whole. @jakuboj, okay, so any politician who supports Trump also supports turning America into a Christian Theocracy Dictatorship, right? That's how this works, right? If you support something you support 100% of every bit of it? Trump clearly thinks he has the absolute power to do whatever he wants with no constraint, and he is stripping away people's rights and allowing Christians to disobey the law using their religion as an excuse - so he clearly wants to be a dictator and make this a theocracy. So anyone who supports Trump in any way wants him to be a dictator. Using your logic, that must be true. How much simpler can I say it? Do you not look at the insane politicians in the Republican party who share your strange vision? That alone should snap you out if your Theocratic Conservative trance. Show me a theocracy which worked in a multiculturalism style country. @Edgework, name one Republican who isn't a Trump loyalist, excusing away any of his actions or statements, or who doesn't walk on eggshells to keep him happy. If you pretend that theocracy and dictatorship in any of it’s deceptive disguises is in any way compatible with the American system, or ever can be, you are lying.
Try to think people! Trump is fighting against the UN One World Government, Chinese Communists, ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 28, 2020:
First off, one would need to agree with your assessment of what Trump is "fighting against" as true. You need to believe there is some secret "Deep State" cult out there, and then you need to assume he is fighting against it and not part of it himself. You need to believe he is an authentic ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
@jakuboj moving the goalposts I see? I think my post was pretty clear, and formatted in a way that easily distinguishes several different points. My theory still stands, that you completely ignored and/or didn't even read my original comment, which clearly stated why I didn't support Trump or his agenda, and made no mention of OWG - you just have a one track mind and like the manipulate to fit your narrative. I am not doing extra work for you. You can prove you yourself are not parroting fringe conspiracy theories from right-wing media by taking one minute to read my original comment and addressing any of the reasons I said I do not like Trump or his agenda. Or you can ignore this like before and show you are just a fraud.
Try to think people! Trump is fighting against the UN One World Government, Chinese Communists, ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 28, 2020:
First off, one would need to agree with your assessment of what Trump is "fighting against" as true. You need to believe there is some secret "Deep State" cult out there, and then you need to assume he is fighting against it and not part of it himself. You need to believe he is an authentic ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
@jakuboj ok, sure, I will ask politicians what they think about OWG and I will commend Trump specifically for fighting against it. Whew, glad we got that out of the way. So now can you address the other things I brought up about Trump and why I do not like him or his agenda? And not bring up anything related to OWG while you do it?
Try to think people! Trump is fighting against the UN One World Government, Chinese Communists, ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 28, 2020:
First off, one would need to agree with your assessment of what Trump is "fighting against" as true. You need to believe there is some secret "Deep State" cult out there, and then you need to assume he is fighting against it and not part of it himself. You need to believe he is an authentic ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
@jakuboj I do not support a OWG Communist movement. There, as cut and dry as I can make it. Now address my actual issues.
I have a question for supporters of left wing politicians.
bry8lin4 comments on Apr 28, 2020:
To achieve a “new world order” (OWG) America’s sovereignty must be eliminated. There are at least 80 million patriotic Americans who will not allow that to happen. The reason President Trump has received such over- the - top unbridled hatred is he threw a monkey wrench in the left’s works ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
@jakuboj so I am looking... Agenda 21 seems to have been made in 1992 to combat climate change, world poverty, and disease. I can't seem to find anything on Agenda 30. What I am seeing is a lot of fringe conspiracy theories that have been around for decades that think agreements to participate in efforts to better the world are excuses to try and create a new world order and plunge the world into Communism. You do realize that countries can band together for a good cause without relinquishing their sovereignty and trying to make one world government? And if you honestly think Trump cares about anything other than himself, I have a bridge to sell you.
Try to think people! Trump is fighting against the UN One World Government, Chinese Communists, ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 28, 2020:
First off, one would need to agree with your assessment of what Trump is "fighting against" as true. You need to believe there is some secret "Deep State" cult out there, and then you need to assume he is fighting against it and not part of it himself. You need to believe he is an authentic ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
@jakuboj you did ignore my first comment, because you glossed over all of the reasons I gave for why I do not like Trump and his agenda. You basically told me I support the list of things you claim he fights against and that I must support a OWG Communist ideology. Where did I ever even address that part? I think you are getting your threads confused. You realize you can dislike a politician personally, and dislike their overall agenda, but agree with them on certain details? A broken clock is right twice a day. Or are you so blinded by bias and right-wing talking points that you must disagree with every single thing someone left-leaning says, and declare them enemies? Who are these "left wing leaders" of mine? You realize you can also agree with a lot of what someone says, but disagree with them on certain issues? Or again, are you so blinded that you bow at the feet of Trump and excuse anything he says?
Try to think people! Trump is fighting against the UN One World Government, Chinese Communists, ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 28, 2020:
First off, one would need to agree with your assessment of what Trump is "fighting against" as true. You need to believe there is some secret "Deep State" cult out there, and then you need to assume he is fighting against it and not part of it himself. You need to believe he is an authentic ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
@jakuboj uh huh, sure. Just keep believing a bogeyman of your own design. Completely ignore anything I said, and just go back to bashing your strawman. Keep fomenting civil unrest by calling anyone who doesn't agree with you the "enemy". Who is really drinking the Koolaid here?
I have a question for supporters of left wing politicians.
bry8lin4 comments on Apr 28, 2020:
To achieve a “new world order” (OWG) America’s sovereignty must be eliminated. There are at least 80 million patriotic Americans who will not allow that to happen. The reason President Trump has received such over- the - top unbridled hatred is he threw a monkey wrench in the left’s works ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 29, 2020:
The "Left" does not want to overthrow the government - they actually want the Constitution to be followed. I could say the "Right" wants to overthrow the government and throw out the Constitution, since they are complete Trump loyalists and want him to be declared "President for Life", they want America to be a Christian Theocracy, and they are fantasizing about a civil war where their "80 million patriotic Americans" can go around shooting people.
Extending My Condolences To Them All
MaskedRiderChris comments on Apr 22, 2020:
Sure, leftists and Democrats, keep preaching, and keep ignoring things like this that are being caused by your casual disregard for anything other than the Party Line. See what happens in November.
JacksonNought replies on Apr 22, 2020:
You put this squarely on "leftists and Democrats"? Not Republicans, like Mnuchin who thinks $1200 should last people at least 10 weeks? Or a party whose most vocal demagogues consistently laugh at people who live paycheck to paycheck, saying they should have saved more or gotten better jobs? Remember when Ben Shapiro said "if you had to work more than one job to have a roof over your head or food on the table" that it was "a you problem” - so I guess it is also a "you problem" if you didn't take a job that could be deemed essential? All parties and ideologies are guilty, don't pretend like this is just the fault of your political opponent because of your bias. What if a business decided, without the government mandating it, to shut down amid concerns for the virus and put a large group of people out of work? Would you be equally as critical, or would it be okay because of the free-market and private liberty? And if someone killed themselves because of the economic burden, would it still be okay, because it wasn't government mandated? Again, I am not excusing Democrats or Liberals, and not just blaming Republicans or Conservatives. However, it is interesting that a Conservative is critical of a recent government policy that has disenfranchised people to the point of hopelessness and suicide... yet they show no concern or empathy towards Conservative policies that strip gay and trans people of their rights and cause disenfranchisement and suicide...
True Story
SupraLibrix comments on Apr 20, 2020:
if people believed in the government, there would be mass death as the infrastructure crumbled.
JacksonNought replies on Apr 20, 2020:
@Supra_Librix why do you automatically assume that I believe in government? The choice isn't binary - god or government. I don't know exactly what you mean by "the right spirit" but I do believe of the two options, Hillary was way better than Trump. Is the government able to or willing to help prevent or take proper actions with the virus? At the moment not really either, since this current administration completely mishandled things. So yeah, at the moment, I totally do not believe the government. So your premise is flawed, since you are arguing against a strawman you have constructed and thrust upon me. And like I said, and you somehow missed or intentionally ignored, I am not mocking what people believe or treasure. But when you are causing harm with what you believe, I will speak out against it. If religious people are trying to deny human rights, like marriage equality, using their religion as a shield, I will speak out against it. If religious people are running out in the streets and spreading disease just to be difficult and protest, endangering peoples' lives, I will speak out against it. Hell, even ISIS has instructed its cells to steer-clear of Europe and practice safety precautions to avoid the virus. That's right, ISIS is making more sense than these religious extremists sharing communion spoons. These same people protesting that Jesus will protect them, and they want haircuts so they should be able to go around normally, are the same people who complained about Kaepernick protesting as disrespectful. These same people protesting quarantine orders, standing at state capitals with rifles, are the same who will tell gunned-down black children that it was their fault they should have followed the authorities orders.
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SupraLibrix comments on Apr 20, 2020:
if people believed in the government, there would be mass death as the infrastructure crumbled.
JacksonNought replies on Apr 20, 2020:
@Supra_Librix I am sure people will thank Jesus for any vaccines or treatments for the virus, yet never blame Jesus for the virus or deaths to begin with. It is common for pretty much everything as far as fundamentalists are concerned. Can I prove them wrong? No. But can they disprove my theory that it was an invisible purple rhinoceros floating around Alpha Centauri? Also no. If they want their faith, they can have it. I have no issue with people clinging to their religion, as long as it isn't risking other peoples' lives. When people are using it as an excuse to defy common-sense quarantine regulations, and potentially spread the virus and risk someone else's life, that is where I take issue. Like that woman in Ohio who said she can't get the virus because she is "covered in Jesus' blood" - that kind of thinking is dangerous right now. Why haven't any of the popular "faith-healers", who lay hands and cure people of blindness and paraplegia, come forward to heal the sick? Kenneth Copeland prayed for COVID to disappear "in the name of Jesus" yet it is still around... I guess he didn't pray hard enough? Pastor Gerald O. Glenn died of COVID after defying social distancing guidelines. A parishioner in Louisiana died of COVID after attending a packed church, led by Tony Spell, who brought in 27 buses full of people to pack his church. South Korea saw an increase in cases after a packed church service banned masks and any social distancing guidelines, and carriers attended and spread it - and now the church is trying to withhold information that could lead to proper treatment and containment. I am not mocking faith. I am mocking those who use their religion as an excuse to put other people in danger. It is no different than someone driving intoxicated because they think the government can't regulate their freedom to drive, and they feel like Jesus will protect them from crashing.
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SupraLibrix comments on Apr 20, 2020:
if people believed in the government, there would be mass death as the infrastructure crumbled.
JacksonNought replies on Apr 20, 2020:
That may be so, but doesn't say anything to disprove that believing Jesus will solve COVID-19 is BS.
The difference between church and state is a gun. Technology is the tower of Babel.
SupraLibrix comments on Apr 17, 2020:
@JacksonNought The ideology doesn't matter, you want a tip about how to argue with a trump supporter? You're going about it wrong. You are using snapshot moral arguments against a realtime logic. The only way you can win that argument is with violence. Do you know what I mean?
JacksonNought replies on Apr 18, 2020:
@Supra_Librix not sure why you tagged me here, I didn't make any comment on this thread. If you are referring to any of the posts I made on Culture War... well, I was banned from that group and cannot see any posts or comments. Apparently the mod wanted a safe space to make fun of "libtards" and have people give him praise for calling Michelle Obama a man and other such things. Any joke or challenge to his narrative was too much for him to handle, so he banned me to keep his echo chamber pure. My post about Trump was a parody of an Obama post made an hour or so prior. Whatever, no loss on my end. As for your thread here, I still don't really know what you mean or what your end goal is. You haven't explained (at least to me) what "Physix" is, and you seem to inconsistent with your message - you seem to praise religion and theocracy and necessary for a functioning society, while at the same time going against their "truth" to say we are in a simulation and you have flawless logic algorithms that cannot be argued against?
Is this liberty to you?
govols comments on Apr 17, 2020:
Define liberty.
JacksonNought replies on Apr 18, 2020:
@Facci States' Rights? Didn't he recently say he had the total authority to override the Governors to reopen the States?
WTF is up with Obama ears ?
JacksonNought comments on Apr 15, 2020:
I have to agree with @sjwpigeon. This is just juvenile. The same people that make these dumb comments are usually the ones who will freak out and declare "TDS" if you criticize Trump in the slightest. So what if his ears are big? What about you? Are you a perfect specimen? Who are you to judge? I...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 16, 2020:
@RemiDallaire: Slug.com - "Our mission is to bring together people who want to improve society by solving problems with honest and civil debate." "Think of those who have different views with kindness and avoid straw-manning or dehumanizing them." "We welcome debate and dissent but personal attacks, persistent trolling and similar abuse will not be tolerated." "Avoid profanity, vulgarity, etc. Arguments have more impact if they are polite and respectful." "Recognize that there is a difference between criticizing a politician, government, organisation, religion or belief and attacking people." Seems like you lost the purpose of this platform. You think I am offended? Literally I started with "hey Michelle is a woman" and your response was a rant about "libtards" and "looks like a dude". For someone who claims that you can say any joke on this group without worry about offending, you seem to be awfully offended at anything that challenges your favorite narrative. At this point you are no more than a troll, and I have no need to converse with you any longer. I hope you go off and have fun and find meaning in your safe-space keyboard warrior existence.
Wonder why they chose this painting.
JacksonNought comments on Apr 15, 2020:
Most likely just a random painting? Are you insinuating something, like that they are Satan worshipers? Because if so, you'd be incorrect.
JacksonNought replies on Apr 16, 2020:
@CarrenTracey because I have seen accusations about the wealthy and political elite taking part in shadow groups worshiping Satan my entire life. Remember the "Satanic Panic" of the 80's and 90's where people believed there was rampant "Satanic Ritual Abuse" going on, and yet every single case was disproved and the whole thing was debunked? I am an Atheist Satanist myself. And I can tell you these people do not worship Satan.
WTF is up with Obama ears ?
JacksonNought comments on Apr 15, 2020:
I have to agree with @sjwpigeon. This is just juvenile. The same people that make these dumb comments are usually the ones who will freak out and declare "TDS" if you criticize Trump in the slightest. So what if his ears are big? What about you? Are you a perfect specimen? Who are you to judge? I...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 16, 2020:
@RemiDallaire ok I really hate to be "that guy" but you seriously need to improve your writing ability. It is honestly hard to read and understand what you are trying to say with how bad it is. You also know the textfield you reply in has spellcheck built in? With that said: Ok, sure, his ears are slightly red. So what? Maybe it is cold? Maybe it's the lighting set up? Maybe it's the camera? Who cares? You are just going to throw out a baseless accusation that he is being abused or attacked, and then laugh about it? Ok, what if I said with the way Melania glares at Donald, or will smile at him and then scowl behind his back when he turns... clearly Trump is raping her viciously every night and she is a prisoner who cannot escape. There, I just threw out a crazy claim with no evidence to back it up. Let's all laugh about it, shall we? What do you think of that? Again, it's a little hard to understand your post, but I never said no one criticizes Trump - people do it all the time. What I am saying is attacks about looks, ear size, weight, etc, are superficial and petty. I try not to steep to that level, but I was making a slight excuse when it came to those attacks against Trump - specifically because he is constantly throwing out petty insults against peoples' looks or intelligence, and then can't take it in return without throwing a tantrum. I don't really recall Obama calling people fat or stupid or crazy - but I do remember Right Wing news having a conniption fit because Obama wore a tan suit or put mustard on his burger. Oh the horror! You want to attack Obama, or Trump, based on his actions or policy? Fine, go ahead. I in no way "idolize" Obama or consider him a "messiah" as a lot of Conservatives like to accuse. You criticize Obama for a legitimate reason, and I would try to see why you feel that way and come to an understanding. Heck, I might even agree with your criticism - there was a lot about Obama took issue with myself. I also thought the Nobel prize wasn't deserved. And yeah, I am sure that some black people only voted for Obama because he was black... although the same could be said that some white people only voted against Obama because he was black. Now, try to attack Trump on anything, and you will have Conservatives jumping down you throat accusing you of "TDS" and saying that he was personally chosen by Jesus to save the nation and the best president of all time and can do no wrong. I have never seen such fanaticism in my life. Are you offending me? No. Some dumb jokes cannot offend me. You want a snowflake? Why not look at yourself, and your crazy rant because I said Michelle is clearly a woman?
Pedophiles in high places, being protected by “News“ media and politicians.
Header comments on Apr 15, 2020:
Allot of people do not want to believe in pizzagate when speaking to them about it! No one wants to believe these people could be so vile but they are!
JacksonNought replies on Apr 15, 2020:
@Daveclark5 pizza-gate at a higher level was trying to tie the DNC and Hillary Clinton's campaign to satanic child trafficking, leveraging the use of various pizza restaurants. One of these restaurants was singled out as the headquarters, because people thought the logo was using satanic imagery, and various fringe media outlets like InfoWars promoted this idea. This lead to a man storming the restaurant with a gun and firing off several rounds to try and investigate. The entire theory was originated by white supremacist organizations on Twitter, trying to harm the Democratic side in the upcoming election and once again using the thoroughly debunked "Satanic ritual abuse" scapegoat. You have to ask yourself, if the accusation is trying to blame occult or Satanic groups, and not also condemning the Catholic Church and other religious harm - or only blaming one side of the political spectrum like the Democrats, and not condemning similar abusers on the Republican side like Roy Moore - then there is clearly an ulterior motive to discredit or attack a group, and not actually try to get the truth and justice.
Is there a religion that is regarded as deism?
dmatic comments on Apr 13, 2020:
"Instead, deism holds that religious beliefs must be founded on human reason and observed features of the natural world, ..." This, I think, would be called humanism...a religion that holds that humans and human reason are supreme. It is obvious, to any thinking mind, "that these sources reveal ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 15, 2020:
@dmatic I do my own research. I have read the Bible. I have studied it myself. I do not agree that the prophecies were fulfilled, not in any meaningful way that shows divine revelation. There are plenty of prophecies never filled: Egypt was never a desolate wasteland, Nebuchadnezzar never conquered Egypt, the Nile didn't dry up, etc. Here is a good breakdown of some of the issues. Yes, it is not my own writing, but again I have done my own research and agree with the conclusions found here: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_prophecies You can say that predictions by someone like Nostradamus were due to divine revelation. Ok, but I have never met a Christian who would agree with this. I have heard that Nostradamus could not be a true prophet of God, because a true prophet of God is never incorrect and will lead others to worship God - Nostradamus was wrong at times and didn't try to bring people to the Bible. Well, the same way his accurate predictions can be explained away, so can those of the Bible. Now, does any of this prove there is no God? No, of course not. But it calls the inerrancy of the Bible into question, and makes the interpretation of a god from the Bible highly unlikely. I could just as easily say that Jesus was a time traveler, and used knowledge of events and advanced technology to fool people into worshiping him. Prove me wrong.
If Christians and Atheists are in a cage match to decide what is true, the Atheist wears a ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 15, 2020:
Wouldn't a more proper analogy be that the Atheist has an intact blindfold, whereas the Christian has a blindfold with an extremely tiny pinhole in it? After all, Christians do not believe in the some 10,000+ gods that other world religions believe in - they are Atheists to all gods except their ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 15, 2020:
@Supra_Librix so wait, you are saying the Bible is true, but the actual teachings and commandments inside are just rhetoric? I don't understand how you can contradict yourself like that. Either the Bible is true and should be followed, or it is not and should not. If it is all rhetorical, then why are Christians constantly trying to deny people human rights based on their Bible - marriage equality, birth control insurance, etc? I don't quite understand your other question. Please clarify it.
If Christians and Atheists are in a cage match to decide what is true, the Atheist wears a ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 15, 2020:
Wouldn't a more proper analogy be that the Atheist has an intact blindfold, whereas the Christian has a blindfold with an extremely tiny pinhole in it? After all, Christians do not believe in the some 10,000+ gods that other world religions believe in - they are Atheists to all gods except their ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 15, 2020:
@Supra_Librix I have heard from Christians themselves that the Bible in inerrant, the true word of God. https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_633.cfm A common excuse I hear, directly from Christians, is that in the New Testament Jesus washed away the old laws (and died for our sins) and so that is why no one is stoned to death anymore. Personally, I don't see how that is any different than God changing His mind. I myself see plenty of contradictions in the Bible, and times that the interpretations were clearly altered based on how society evolves (excusing the acceptance of slavery or forcing rape victims to marry their abusers). I do indeed see modern versions of "stoning to death" - like Christian missionaries going to Uganda and fighting for a law to execute homosexuals. Again, I don't need to believe that Christians think the Bible is perfect. I am told all the time by Christians themselves that it is.
If Christians and Atheists are in a cage match to decide what is true, the Atheist wears a ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 15, 2020:
Wouldn't a more proper analogy be that the Atheist has an intact blindfold, whereas the Christian has a blindfold with an extremely tiny pinhole in it? After all, Christians do not believe in the some 10,000+ gods that other world religions believe in - they are Atheists to all gods except their ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 15, 2020:
@Supra_Librix I disagree, I think the photo is a perfect analogy. A Christian believes in the inerrant word of the Bible, and that God doesn't make mistakes. To say that there would be a real-time view is to say that God's word is evolving and changing over time. The picture is appropriate to show that the Christian beliefs God's word is final and unchanging, and there is no need for new information.
If Christians and Atheists are in a cage match to decide what is true, the Atheist wears a ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 15, 2020:
Wouldn't a more proper analogy be that the Atheist has an intact blindfold, whereas the Christian has a blindfold with an extremely tiny pinhole in it? After all, Christians do not believe in the some 10,000+ gods that other world religions believe in - they are Atheists to all gods except their ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 15, 2020:
@Supra_Librix yet Christians often try to describe their god, do they not? Perhaps a more apt analogy would be that the Christian has a photo of the cage taped to their face, trying to fight with what they think the cage looks like, not trying to figure out what the cage actually looks like at the present time.
Is there a religion that is regarded as deism?
dmatic comments on Apr 13, 2020:
"Instead, deism holds that religious beliefs must be founded on human reason and observed features of the natural world, ..." This, I think, would be called humanism...a religion that holds that humans and human reason are supreme. It is obvious, to any thinking mind, "that these sources reveal ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 15, 2020:
@dmatic we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't want to make any assumptions, but based on your responses it sounds like you are a Bible believing Christian? I do not believe that any prophecy has been fulfilled. Anything that is used as evidence is either a self-fulfilling prophecy, a foolproof prediction, a coincidence, or a stretch. Should we worship Nostradamus as a prophet / messiah / god because he also was able to accurately predict events? If it is so obvious, then why is there so much disagreement about it throughout the world - not only between theists and non-theists, and not only between different religions, but within religions themselves (Catholic vs Protestant vs Mormon, Sunni vs Shia, Orthodox vs Hasidic, etc)? I try not to use the mocking terms "sky wizard" or "sky daddy" as they are childish.
Pedophiles in high places, being protected by “News“ media and politicians.
Header comments on Apr 15, 2020:
Allot of people do not want to believe in pizzagate when speaking to them about it! No one wants to believe these people could be so vile but they are!
JacksonNought replies on Apr 15, 2020:
Because pizzagate is downright ridiculous? That a small pizza restaurant, with barely a basement to begin with, was somehow a headquarters for some sort of shady Satanic pedophile ring hosted by the DNC? It is laughable to believe that. Now, with that said, am I denying that there is some sort of elite class out there that is engaging in sex trafficking / pedophilia and covering it up and protecting those in power? Of course not. We saw that with Epstein, who was 100% murdered to keep him from revealing those who took part in his crimes. Clinton and Trump were 100% part of his inner circle and contributing to the abhorrent acts. The Catholic Church is 100% guilty of enabling pedophilia and preventing proper criminal investigation and justice. But we need to be realistic about this, and not just believe every crazy story that is thrown out there, especially as it might be a misdirect and an attempt to discredit any valid theories by lumping them with the crazy ones. There is no occult connection, no secret cabal of new world order cultists, no dark evil forces at work. The Satanic Ritual Abuse (or Satanic Panic) of the 80's and 90's has been thoroughly debunked. This is nothing more than rich assholes corrupted with power (of all religions and ideologies) taking advantage of the defenseless. Blaming only a specific group that doesn't match your opinions, or believing in insane claims thrown, only hurts the cause and makes it harder to get to the truth and take down these monsters.
Is there a religion that is regarded as deism?
dmatic comments on Apr 13, 2020:
"Instead, deism holds that religious beliefs must be founded on human reason and observed features of the natural world, ..." This, I think, would be called humanism...a religion that holds that humans and human reason are supreme. It is obvious, to any thinking mind, "that these sources reveal ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 14, 2020:
@dmatic I will try to respond to each point from your last few comments. Atheism is 100% not a religion. There is no dogma, no tenets, no core principals, no rituals, no shared values, etc. There are non-theistic religions, of course, but Atheism itself is not a religion. In fact, the term really shouldn't even need to exist. A common analogy is that we don't need a term for people who do not believe in unicorns or fairies or Russel's Teapot (you should give it a look). Atheism is simply nothing other than a "lack of belief" in any god or gods. There isn't really even an active claim, it isn't a belief but rather a lack of belief - we don't "believe there is no god" or say "there is no god" - it is quite literally that we do not see adequate and verifiable evidence for a god. That is it. Any other commonly shared ideals between Atheists is purely coincidental. Another common analogy is saying that your hobby is not collecting stamps - that just doesn't make sense. Atheists do not want to be their own god and they do not want to decide how the universe is made. We completely understand that the universe is what it is, and barring a crazy reality shattering breakthrough, we cannot change the reality of our universe. Again, we simply just do not see sufficient evidence that there is a creator, that is all. You are I are both interested in the truth, Atheists just do not think that truth is a god. We are not trying to make our own design or truth, we just disagree on what that truth is. One other common saying is that you are an Atheist yourself, as you do not believe in the some 10,000+ other gods that different world religions believe in (Odin, Zeus, Ra, Vishnu, Quetzalcoatl, Xenu, etc). Atheist just go one step further in also not believing your god. For example, you disbelieve in 9,999 gods, we disbelieve in 10,000. It isn't that I (or other Atheists) "refuse" to consider a possibility in a creator - in fact I am very open minded, and would change my stance if evidence were provided. I do not think science currently proves the existence of a god, as the more we understand the more we see how things work without a divine explanation. It will always be an odd philosophical conversation because science could only really ever prove a god, never disprove 100%, as the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. I do, however, believe that the major religious groups are incorrect in their specific interpretations. Additionally, Atheism doesn't mock any gods. First off, we do not believe in any gods, so there is nothing for us to mock. It is similar to when people say Atheists "hate god" - well how can we hate what we do not believe in (it is how believers try to force their god's will on us that we hate). Second, our mere existence ...
Is there a religion that is regarded as deism?
dmatic comments on Apr 13, 2020:
"Instead, deism holds that religious beliefs must be founded on human reason and observed features of the natural world, ..." This, I think, would be called humanism...a religion that holds that humans and human reason are supreme. It is obvious, to any thinking mind, "that these sources reveal ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 14, 2020:
@dmatic on another note, to reply to your "wake them up" comment, what exactly does that accomplish? Again, if we just say that "a god did it" is the final answer to reach, should we just stop exploring or investigating? Should we bother figuring out the mechanics and physics towards everything, or give up because no matter how granular we understand things, the ultimate end is still a god? If we shouldn't change our course of research, then what difference does it make whether we believe in a god or not? And what are we being woken up to? As you said, there is the question of how involved a creator would even be: constantly interfering and judging? sitting back and observing? completely ignorant and ambivalent towards our existence? Who is to even say this creator is still around, and didn't cease to exist after setting things in motion? Who is to say there aren't multiple creators? And finally, should this even change how we live our lives? Do we then have to pick one of the major religions to subscribe to?
Is there a religion that is regarded as deism?
dmatic comments on Apr 13, 2020:
"Instead, deism holds that religious beliefs must be founded on human reason and observed features of the natural world, ..." This, I think, would be called humanism...a religion that holds that humans and human reason are supreme. It is obvious, to any thinking mind, "that these sources reveal ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 14, 2020:
@Naomi I didn't mean to insinuate that this was an echo chamber. @dmatic, perhaps I misinterpreted the "most sane people" comment to mean that Atheists were not "sane" - my reply being that Atheists (in an Atheist group) would most likely disagree with the statement. I am sure you've heard this talking point a million times, but you are using the "god of the gaps" argument. I personally do not know where this reality came from, and I am comfortable saying that I do not know. In the olden days, humans created mythology to explain how certain phenomena occurred that they did not fully understand; this is why the Egyptians came up with the story of Ra being swallowed by his mother Nut and being reborn every day to explain the sun setting and rising, or the Greeks coming up with Zeus throwing lightning bolts to explain thunderstorms. Once we had a greater capacity towards understanding our world, and advancements in science to investigate, we realized how these events really occurred and washed away the old myths. It is reasonable, perhaps even sound thinking or sane, to conclude that current beliefs in higher-powers and gods to explain the universe could also be explained away in the future, when we are able to gain further understanding. Again, I do not know how the universe began, but that doesn't mean the default answer is just "a god did it." If that was the default answer to all questions, then why even bother trying to understand anything? Is there order to the universe, or do we just project an order to it because of the patterns we see? For example, some will say that the universe is finely tuned to allow us to live (the intelligent design argument), but who is to say that if the universe had different rules there still wouldn't be a different form of life? Not to mention the universe (and Earth itself) is extremely inhabitable to humans to a large extent And finally, again you've probably heard this a million times, if everything requires a creator, then where does that end? If a god created the universe, then what created that god? And then what created that god creator? And so on and so forth. If you can explain this away with "god has always existed" and "god doesn't exist by our rules" then why can't that be applied to other things? Clearly not everything needs a creator then? Why can't the universe have always existed in some form, and then just changed to start the current form of the universe we observe today?
RT - Uncut occult ceremony at the opening of world’s longest tunnel near CERN in Gotthard ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 13, 2020:
I don't think you really know what an occult ceremony looks like?
JacksonNought replies on Apr 14, 2020:
@CarrenTracey can movies have spiritual allegories, or be based on ancient lore? Of course. But to suggest the CERN celebration was of the occult is silly, no more truthful than saying there is a Satanic cult operating under a pizza parlor.
RT - Uncut occult ceremony at the opening of world’s longest tunnel near CERN in Gotthard ...
JacksonNought comments on Apr 13, 2020:
I don't think you really know what an occult ceremony looks like?
JacksonNought replies on Apr 13, 2020:
@johnlondon do drag queens go to schools? I know they do voluntary story time at libraries, but I haven't heard of captive audience sessions.
If There's No 'Q', There's Only YOU (What if QAnon isn't real?) - YouTube
iThink comments on Apr 13, 2020:
Q is a hoax - really there is a lesson here for people who think of themselves as "conservative" or "right wing". The lesson is that the desire, wish, hope for someone to come along and "rescue" you is not exclusive to the "left" "progressive" democrat side of the socio-political spectrum. People ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 13, 2020:
@iThink do you think that Barr isn't part of the deep state himself? What exactly is the deep state? Is its goal to change the country in a way that goes against your preference? Who is part of the deep state? Only people whose politics are opposed to your own? Who is to say that Trump and his appointments aren't an attempt to bolster the deep state? Also, unfortunately, money and power is corrupting. Why do you think millionaires and billionaires are constantly trying to make more money, despite having more money than they could ever spend in several lifetimes? To think that Trump would be satisfied with whatever money he has, and wouldn't do what he could to get more, is ignoring everything we know about the super wealthy.
If There's No 'Q', There's Only YOU (What if QAnon isn't real?) - YouTube
iThink comments on Apr 13, 2020:
Q is a hoax - really there is a lesson here for people who think of themselves as "conservative" or "right wing". The lesson is that the desire, wish, hope for someone to come along and "rescue" you is not exclusive to the "left" "progressive" democrat side of the socio-political spectrum. People ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 13, 2020:
Agreed. There is no Q, there is no secret "deep state", no secret Satanist child-sacrificing group hiding in the basement of pizza restaurants, etc. Some conservatives are trying to make sense of some of the loony and contradictory actions exhibited by Trump, excusing it as all a "part of the plan" to combat "deep state" operatives, playing the long game, and being smarter and more strategic than we can even imagine. But in the end, he is not draining the swamp - he is filling it - and he is making decisions to further line his own pockets and the pockets of his corporate friends.
Is there a religion that is regarded as deism?
dmatic comments on Apr 13, 2020:
"Instead, deism holds that religious beliefs must be founded on human reason and observed features of the natural world, ..." This, I think, would be called humanism...a religion that holds that humans and human reason are supreme. It is obvious, to any thinking mind, "that these sources reveal ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 13, 2020:
@dmatic "most sane people realize there is a God" - you post this on an Atheist group?
What Atheism Needs.
Crikey comments on Apr 12, 2020:
Just because no religion wants to claim Hitler or Manson as a one off their own own, does not prove that either was an atheist. If that's what you are saying. The problem with holy books is exactly that they are a delivery system for a set of moral values. And some of those moral values are open ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 12, 2020:
@Supra_Librix why does Atheism need to offer something in exchange? If you see a cult out there sacrificing humans, and you try to get them to stop, should you have to offer something equal to that for it to be valid to try and get them to stop? Also Hitler was a Christian.
Being atheist is like being a libertarian. Sounds good as long as you admit it can't scale.
JacksonNought comments on Apr 10, 2020:
What exactly do you mean by scale?
JacksonNought replies on Apr 10, 2020:
@Supra_Librix I am not entirely sure what beliefs you are following yourself, as sometimes you seem to champion a deistic worldview with absolute morality, and other times agreeing that morality is relative and subjective ("morality is a function of technology"). I would say we are one with the universe, as you say, really at a quantum state - since matter doesn't cease to exist. I would not prescribe any type of spiritual connection with it at all, though. And even if we were to say that one did make the universe, it is foolish to try and make claims as to the nature or intent of it: What if it was an accident? What if there is no sentience? What if it created the universe, but isn't trying to set morality on us? What if it is more like ancient religion, with multiple creators, and multiple ideas of right and wrong, and we need to figure out which one to follow? I am still not sure why you are trying to compare Communism and Atheism - that is like apples and oranges, or more like apples and carrots. One is an economic and political system, the other is a philosophical or theological (as you claimed) system (or really a rejection of prescribed ones, as I claim). You could have a Capitalistic society, or a Socialist, or Dictatorship, etc... you may have an opinion on which one is better to run a community, but they can all have pros and cons, and can all be corrupted by those in power. You are correct, Communism is near impossible - it is good on paper, but without proper motivation it can fall, and it will usually get corrupted by a dictator-like power struggle. But, again, what has this to do with Atheism? It isn't a religion or way of life, it is a non-belief in something. It does not have a dogma that says life must be lived in a specific way, just that in most cases an Atheist will not subscribe to the dogma and lifestyle of a Theist. You can have a non-Communist Atheist society, look at Japan or Norway. But I guess what it boils down to, is you seem to be saying that because Communism (everyone working only for the common good, honor system) never seems to work, that an Atheistic lifestyle (no absolute morality from a divine presence) also can't work? The fundamental difference here is what is "true"? There is no truth when it comes to economic/political systems - just what can work at the time. There is truth when it comes to the nature of the universe and a question of theology. If Christianity isn't true, should we all still pretend that it is just because you think society can't live without a belief in Jesus? Well, why shouldn't we all be Buddhists then? Or go back to Roman or Greek gods? Again, what you might think is a better society from a specific religion (and that is debatable, which is why there is so much fighting ...
During times of distress and fear many turn to faith.
Biosphere comments on Apr 8, 2020:
If god speaks to you and gives guidelines and instruction, then you are truly a rare and very fortunate person.
JacksonNought replies on Apr 10, 2020:
I often wonder why the public's reaction to God personally speaking to people is so inconsistent. No one batted an eye when Michele Bachmann claimed God personally spoke to her and told her to run for president - although of course she failed miserably in the primaries, so I guess it was a test? Yet when David Berkowitz claims his dog spoke to him and told him to kill (much like God spoke to Abraham) he is considered mentally insane and laughed off.
Being atheist is like being a libertarian. Sounds good as long as you admit it can't scale.
JacksonNought comments on Apr 10, 2020:
What exactly do you mean by scale?
JacksonNought replies on Apr 10, 2020:
@Supra_Librix I don't see your connection between communism and atheism? I wouldn't necessarily say that humans have "theistic" tendencies, but there is a strong drive to understand the nature of our world and existence. The creation of gods stemmed from trying to understand, and with very limited capacity, it was an easy excuse to just claim some magic beings were in control of anything that couldn't be explained. That is why you had grandiose stories like Ra being eaten by his mother Nut to explain why the sun disappeared at night, or Zeus throwing lightning bolts down during a storm. It's this strive for knowledge that allowed humans to become more resourceful, allowing us to understand more clearly. This is why many of these myths have been washed away, as we truly understand why the sun sets and how storms occur. We do not yet really know how the universe began, or how life began, but we will keep searching, and eventually remove the still-remaining myth that some magic being did it. I wouldn't call atheism a theology. There really shouldn't even be a term for it, as there isn't a term for not believing in unicorns or not playing football. It's quite literally a lack of belief in any god or gods, and carries no additional tenets or philosophies or practices with it. There is only a term for it because it was so unfounded that anyone would reject the notion that there were magic beings controlling our lives. As far as scalability, I would ask the same question of the popular theistic groups. I am by no means singling out Christianity, but I am more familiar with it, so I will use it as an example. When you have acceptance of slavery in the Bible, and then modern society deems it to be wrong, how does it scale to agree that it is "immoral" without negating itself? When the Bible has rules that a woman must marry her rapist, and society eventually deems that wrong, how does it scale? I think if anything is unable to scale, it is religious dogma, as that is supposed to be absolute and unwavering. It cannot be wrong about something later on, or it will all crumble.
Candace Owens Show With Dennis Prager.
Spetsnasty comments on Apr 10, 2020:
I let my Daughter go to university. She was so happy and bright eyed. Two years later, she wanted to kill herself. I convinced her to finish that semester and I supported her to pull the pin. She will continue her education at a later date. She is still a bit traumatized by her experience but a lot ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 10, 2020:
"She never had a racist bone in her body, that has changed." Care to elaborate?
About sums it up..
Daveclark5 comments on Apr 9, 2020:
We have seen this repeatedly in our history. (Think 9/11 and big brother communications tapping along with the other things that came out of that scary time). To your point, though, the times are changing (and not for the better) because we have become self-centered instead of God-centered with ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 9, 2020:
@Daveclark5 those of us who do not believe in any god or gods do not recognize an ultimate arbiter of morals. And if there is a god or gods, who actively set ultimate morals, we would not recognize that any one group of men have accurately determined what those morals are. So we do not feel that living with a specific religion's set of morals is necessarily beneficial to society, as certain ones (e.g. being against homosexuality or asking wives to submit) are detrimental in our eyes.
About sums it up..
Daveclark5 comments on Apr 9, 2020:
We have seen this repeatedly in our history. (Think 9/11 and big brother communications tapping along with the other things that came out of that scary time). To your point, though, the times are changing (and not for the better) because we have become self-centered instead of God-centered with ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 9, 2020:
Sorry, but you can have morals and love/concern for fellow man without believing in God. Being "God-centered" is not the solution to this.
Can someone please explain what is Islamaphobia ?
JacksonNought comments on Mar 27, 2020:
At the literal level, it is a fear of Islam, but that is not how it is applied today. It is more of a generic term for anti-Islamic bigotry, when someone has an unjustified or irrational hatred towards a person or group of people simply because they subscribe to Islam. It is similar to Homophobia, ...
JacksonNought replies on Apr 1, 2020:
Not in the slightest.
Omnipotence Paradox
slug comments on Mar 25, 2020:
Boulders are material. God is immaterial.
JacksonNought replies on Mar 27, 2020:
Boulders are real. God is fiction.
Thought provoking! What The Satanic Temple is and why it's opening a debate about religion
MaskedRiderChris comments on Mar 8, 2020:
Something tells me that I might be one of the few (if not the the first one) to offer a nuanced and rational opinion on this matter, so here goes... As someone who--inevitably, some would argue--as an angry young headbanger delved and dabbled into Laveyan Satanism as an expression of youthful ...
JacksonNought replies on Mar 26, 2020:
I strongly agree with your last paragraph. I do want to say, however, that typical LaVeyan Satanism (The Church of Satan) is actually quite different from the new Satanic Temple version of Satanism. In fact, they both kind of hate each other, and will argue that the other is not "true" Satanism. I can very much relate to your experience as a youth, as I also identified with LaVeyan Satanism in a sort of rebellious period. I was raised very lax Jewish, and became an Atheist at an early age, and later identified with Satanism as a teen. Like you, I also found myself getting turned off from it and disagreeing with a lot of the viewpoints - materialism, self aggrandizement, social Darwinism, belief in magic, etc. The Satanic Temple is very different, much more modern. It is a non-theistic religion, identifying with the representation of Satan in Milton's Paradise Lost, as the ultimate rebel against tyranny and a champion of freedom and justice. Yes, the Temple has a tendency towards theatrics and spectacle, but they are a legitimate religion with a set of tenets that is closely related to secular humanism. They are extremely important today, as many people do not share your laissez faire attitude, and will indeed show Christian outrage at any rights being afforded to them, as has been very apparent in the past few years. I have leaned towards identifying as a Satanist again recently, as I can get behind the message of The Satanic Temple much more than the Church of Satan.